Celebrations erupt in major U.S. cities after Biden election win

[Berkshire]

11 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

And just why would I think that is a good thing? More wealth inequality. What good does it do to increase the taxes on "rich people," when those rich people mainly have their wealth in assets such as the stock market or ownership of items not taxable. How about taxing people's current stock value?  Hmmm. I think the AOC person proposed that. I think it's a great idea. Sure go ahead and increase the tax on people on their income over $400,000 per year (I would make it $200,000) but tax their stock portfolio value for the same amounts. And, btw, how is opening the border and driving down people's working class wages, as Biden is promising, going to reduce wealth inequality?

I'm not saying it's a "good thing."  But Trump supporters were adamant that the stock market would crash if Biden won.  They were wrong.

 

As for wealth inequality, you're preaching to the choir.  It's a big problem in the USA but I have no idea how to fix it.  Your ideas would never be approved by the Congress.  But I do believe it would be better under Biden than Trump. 

 

Are you a Bernie supporter?  There's a reason he's not the Dem nominee.

[Neeranam]

1 minute ago, Berkshire said:

I'm not saying it's a "good thing."  But Trump supporters were adamant that the stock market would crash if Biden won.  They were wrong.

 

As for wealth inequality, you're preaching to the choir.  It's a big problem in the USA but I have no idea how to fix it.  Your ideas would never be approved by the Congress.  But I do believe it would be better under Biden than Trump. 

 

Are you a Bernie supporter?  There's a reason he's not the Dem nominee.

The stock market wanted a clear decision, that's all. It didn't care who won but just didn't want a month long period of uncertainty. 

[CorpusChristie]

2 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

Come on.  Do you only read InfoWars?

 

https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-race-and-ethnicity-suburbs-health-racial-injustice-7edf9027af1878283f3818d96c54f748

 

AP finds most arrested in protests aren’t leftist radicals

 

  Oh OK, so all those protesting, rioting and looting were Right wingers and not the Antifa mob...................OK, if you say so ????

[Jeffr2]

20 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Oh OK, so all those protesting, rioting and looting were Right wingers and not the Antifa mob...................OK, if you say so ????

You, incorrectly, said all those liberals have been violent for the past 4 years.  That's not true.  A few instances of some violence, but most of it comes from the alt right crowd.  That's been proven.

 

Racial injustice is a big deal in the US.  It needs to be addressed, rather than just blame others for the protests.  Luckily, it's one thing Biden will focus on.  Trump just inflamed it.  As you well know.

[John Drake]

31 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Are you a Bernie supporter?  There's a reason he's not the Dem nominee.

 

No, I backed Elizabeth Warren.

[LomSak27]

Back To The Future. Its 2008 all over again. The howls start  & crocodile tears flow, right on cue, about the deficit.  ????

 

Republicans do not care about the deficit. They care about exploiting the deficit to derail democratic Presidents agendas,  and the long term goal of dismantling social safety nets.

[BritManToo]

7 hours ago, Berkshire said:

As for wealth inequality, you're preaching to the choir.  It's a big problem in the USA but I have no idea how to fix it.  Your ideas would never be approved by the Congress.  But I do believe it would be better under Biden than Trump. 

Redistribution Comrade ........

Take from those who have, and reallocate to those that don't.

How much money do Bezos, Gates and Soros need? 

Give every citizen some land while you're at it, plenty to go round.

[EVENKEEL]

9 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Redistribution Comrade ........

Take from those who have, and reallocate to those that don't.

How much money do Bezos, Gates and Soros need? 

Give every citizen some land while you're at it, plenty to go round.

After they've plundered from these guys who's next? Won't be long before they hit the middleclass.

[onthedarkside]

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[LomSak27]

11 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Redistribution Comrade ........

Take from those who have, and reallocate to those that don't.

How much money do Bezos, Gates and Soros need? 

Give every citizen some land while you're at it, plenty to go round.

 

Equitable tax base, Tory.

 

The US has been cutting taxes and gutting government since the 1980's. That is part of the problem we are in, SORRY, US citizens are in.Bill Gates, Warren Buffett and George Soros have all publicly stated, the US tax rates need to be adjusted and higher percentages levied on large corporations &  the wealthy. That these skewed tax rates (and cuts) which are pawned off as 'tax cuts for job creators' are gutting the US infrastructure, & social safety net, putting an unfair burden on middle and lower classes. This will inevitably cause the decline of the USA, if it has not already. As fo Bezos no clue about  him.

 

Rather patriotic stuff from individuals who have been vilified and painted into conspiracy theory fairy tales, by the medieval elements of society.  

 

[Tippaporn]

Just tuned in to read this headline.  It's confusing.

 

https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results_certification_dates,_2020

 

There is a single assumption made by any corrupt or tyrannical organization upon which all of their machinations depend upon as being true. That good people will lay down and die. Every corrupt and tyrannical organization in history has failed as the assumption is inherently false.

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8 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Just tuned in to read this headline.  It's confusing.

 

https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results_certification_dates,_2020

 

There is a single assumption made by any corrupt or tyrannical organization upon which all of their machinations depend upon as being true. That good people will lay down and die. Every corrupt and tyrannical organization in history has failed as the assumption is inherently false.

How exactly does one "lay down and die."? Are you suggesting that there will be mass murder of Trump supporters?

[Tippaporn]

Just now, placeholder said:

12 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Just tuned in to read this headline.  It's confusing.

 

https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results_certification_dates,_2020

 

There is a single assumption made by any corrupt or tyrannical organization upon which all of their machinations depend upon as being true. That good people will lay down and die. Every corrupt and tyrannical organization in history has failed as the assumption is inherently false.

How exactly does one "lay down and die."? Are you suggesting that there will be mass murder of Trump supporters?

Uhm, have you ever heard of a figurative expression?

[mtls2005]

12 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

There is a single assumption made by any corrupt or tyrannical organization upon which all of their machinations depend upon as being true. That good people will lay down and die. Every corrupt and tyrannical organization in history has failed as the assumption is inherently false.

 

OK, I'm confused.

 

All the defenses and gains made by Republicans, Senate, House, State leg. are all legitimate.

 

But the top of the ticket results is not.

 

 

How is that possible?

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Tippaporn said:

Uhm, have you ever heard of a figurative expression?

When it's incorporated into a statement that's so clearly over the top, who knows?

[Tippaporn]

9 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

 

OK, I'm confused.

 

All the defenses and gains made by Republicans, Senate, House, State leg. are all legitimate.

 

But the top of the ticket results is not.

 

 

How is that possible?

 

 

Because it's just getting started as of Nov. 10.  A long way to go yet.

[Tippaporn]

9 minutes ago, placeholder said:

When it's incorporated into a statement that's so clearly over the top, who knows?

State certification dates vary.  The earliest, by several states, is Nov. 10, tomorrow.  As of this moment not a single state has certified their election result.

 

Here are the results summary.

https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results,_2020#Results_summary

 

Results below updated as of 1:00 p.m. ET on Monday, November 9. This section will be updated once daily.

 

Who won the presidency?
Former Vice President Joe Biden (D) is the projected winner of the 2020 presidential election, according to a consensus call from ABC News, CNN, Fox News, NBC News, and The New York Times. Biden was declared the projected winner in Pennsylvania and Nevada on Nov. 7, which secured him at least 279 electoral votes and put him over the threshold of the 270 electoral votes needed to win the presidency. President Donald Trump (R) has won at least 214 electoral votes. Races remain uncalled in Alaska, Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina.

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Just now, Tippaporn said:

State certification dates vary.  The earliest, by several states, is Nov. 10, tomorrow.  As of this moment not a single state has certified their election result.

 

 

And that's unprecedented?

[Tippaporn]

News outlets typically call election results.  However, they are not the final result but only the projected results.

 

https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results,_2020#Status_of_uncalled_elections

[Tippaporn]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

And that's unprecedented?

Precedented or unprecedented are meaningless at this moment in time and do not determine election results.

[placeholder]

1 minute ago, Tippaporn said:

News outlets typically call election results.  However, they are not the final result but only the projected results.

 

https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results,_2020#Status_of_uncalled_elections

Wow I always that news outlets ran the elections and pretty much all of government. Does that mean my vote for Rachel Maddow was wasted?

[Berkshire]

14 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

24 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

 

OK, I'm confused.

 

All the defenses and gains made by Republicans, Senate, House, State leg. are all legitimate.

 

But the top of the ticket results is not.

 

 

How is that possible?

 

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Because it's just getting started as of Nov. 10.  A long way to go yet.

And of course, you didn't answer his question.  So I'll ask again.  The Republicans did well in pretty much all races...except for the Presidential.  If there is broad corruption and fraud, why did Republicans do so well in other races? 

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8 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Precedented or unprecedented are meaningless at this moment in time and do not determine election results.

I'm guessing that in the alternative universe you are reporting on there have been many reversals of election results as called by the media?

[Tippaporn]

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I'm guessing that in the alternative universe you are reporting on there have been many reversals of election results as called by the media?

I'm not suggesting a thing here as to the winner or reversals.  So no alternate universe as you're trying to paint it.  I'm merely pointing out that while news outlets historically call the projected winner the actual results aren't determined until all states have completed their election result certifications.

 

So I find the headline of this article to be confusing as technically and truthfully it should read "projected winner" rather than "winner."

 

Anyway, I'm about done here as I just wanted to add some clarification.  I'll let posters take this wherever they want.

 

 

Edited November 10, 2020 by Tippaporn

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1 minute ago, Tippaporn said:

I'm not suggesting a thing here as to the winner or reversals.  So no alternate universe as you're trying to paint it.  I'm merely pointing out that while news outlets historically call the projected winner the actual results aren't determined until all states have completed their election result certifications.

So entirely out of the blue? A fascinating fact?

[Scott]

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[cdemundo]

1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

 

OK, I'm confused.

 

All the defenses and gains made by Republicans, Senate, House, State leg. are all legitimate.

 

But the top of the ticket results is not.

 

 

How is that possible?

 

 

 

 

 

One obvious part of the explanation is that some Republicans couldn't gag down their bile and vote for Trump, but they were happy with the down ballot Republicans and voted for them.