UK sees goodwill for Brexit trade deal, open to 'sensible' fishing compromise

[polpott]

1 minute ago, transam said:

Biased, not from me, but as you have read the thread then you know and can now relax...

 

"Childish rhetoric", well that's a new one from you, no spelling mistakes from me today then.....  ????

I don't do spelling police. But if I did...........

[nauseus]

3 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

He took my name in vain and included my post - therefore I am entitled to respond accordingly. So there. No smiley either - maybe I'll feel like it later. 

 

Oh great .... a smiley! Just what you wanted.

[polpott]

Just now, nauseus said:

 

Oh great .... a smiley! Just what you wanted.

You could at least return the favour.

[gamini]

On 11/10/2020 at 7:49 AM, wombat said:

With the rest of the world waiting to deal with UK and budgie smuggler Abbot there to hold UK hand while he explains how Oz has survived a no deal arrangement with EU and prospered......she'll be right mate 

Australia is completely self-sufficient in food. The UK isn't, and imports a lot from the EU

[evadgib]

Another fishing/marine related link from HMG blowing smoke in the direction of those in the rhubarb brigade who slagged off our crown dependencies as recently as yesterday....

 

World’s most remote island helps UK exceed protected ocean target

 

Quote

Prime Minister confirms that more than 4.3 million sq km of some of the world’s most precious marine environment will be protected.

 

[7by7]

9 hours ago, transam said:

You obviously do not see, or you dismiss, the "likes", given to those from across the channel slagging off the UK, and not only about Brexit stuff.

I and others do take note of that kind of stuff. 

"Democracy", more like treachery in a few cases here.......????

 

I see no posts "slagging off the UK." 

 

I do see posts critical of Brexit and critical of the government and Prime Minister. But as we live in a democracy, we have the right to make such criticisms. If we didn't, then your precious Brexit would never have happened!

 

That you don't care for these democratic rights is your problem, because exercising these democratic rights does not make anyone a traitor to the UK. Maybe you'd be happier in the PRC or North Korea where citizens do not enjoy the same democratic rights that we here in the UK do!

 

[notrub]

On 11/12/2020 at 3:54 PM, nauseus said:

 

Please send details of this perfectly functioning fishing agreement. Urgent. Stop. 

Will this do for a start?  Anyway it is 13 11 2020 not December yet.

[7by7]

6 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

Should anyone be interested please read back through these posts and see who of us is full of it. Also see who's SOP includes claiming that the other party "lost" - this happens with rather boring regularity and is symptomatic of the real loser here. 

 Indeed; anyone who cares to do so can easily see who plagiarised whom after you'd lost the argument!

 

Yet you continue to do it!

[7by7]

1 hour ago, evadgib said:

Another fishing/marine related link from HMG blowing smoke in the direction of those in the rhubarb brigade who slagged off our crown dependencies as recently as yesterday....

 

World’s most remote island helps UK exceed protected ocean target

 

As Tristan Da Cunha, nor any of the other other British Overseas Territories (not Crown dependencies) in that press release, is in the UK EEZ and their waters have never been subject to the CFP (apart from two, wonder if you know which) kindly explain how it is relevant to this topic.

Edited November 13, 2020 by 7by7
Correct typo

[evadgib]

59 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 

As Tristan Da Cunha, nor any of the other other British Overseas Territories (not Crown dependencies) in that press release, is in the UK EEZ and their waters have never been subject to the CFP (apart from two, wonder if you know which) kindly explain how it is relevant to this topic.

- Consider that a typo 49; I am in no mood to engage in wiki hockey over something so trivial.

- Explained in my previous post.

HTH

 

Edited November 13, 2020 by evadgib

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, notrub said:

Will this do for a start?  Anyway it is 13 11 2020 not December yet.

 

No, it won't do. This is July and I can't see what it is.

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

 Indeed; anyone who cares to do so can easily see who plagiarised whom after you'd lost the argument!

 

Yet you continue to do it!

 

Plagiarised! You really think I would copy or repeat any of your gash? 

[7by7]

1 hour ago, evadgib said:

- Consider that a typo 49; I am in no mood to engage in wiki hockey over something so trivial.

I assume that your reference to "wiki hockey" (whatever that is) is meant to in some way excuse yet another entry onto the ever growing list of your basic factual errors.

 

It's not a trivial distinction. The Isle of Man is in the UK's EEZ, the Channel Islands have their own. Both of which were subject to the CFP and will be subject to whatever agreement the UK and EU come to over fishing rights.

 

The UK has never claimed an EEZ extending from Gibraltar or Akrotiri and Dhekelia; and whilst the EEZ's of the other British overseas territories are sometimes counted as part of the UK's, they have never been subject to the CFP nor any other EU regulation.

 

1 hour ago, evadgib said:

- Explained in my previous post.

 You posted something which, for the reasons given, is irrelevant to this topic.

 

 

[7by7]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

 

Plagiarised! You really think I would copy or repeat any of your gash? 

 Considering the number of times you have done so, of which your latest in the last several pages of this topic is just the latest example; then yes!

 

[transam]

12 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 

I see no posts "slagging off the UK." 

 

I do see posts critical of Brexit and critical of the government and Prime Minister. But as we live in a democracy, we have the right to make such criticisms. If we didn't, then your precious Brexit would never have happened!

 

That you don't care for these democratic rights is your problem, because exercising these democratic rights does not make anyone a traitor to the UK. Maybe you'd be happier in the PRC or North Korea where citizens do not enjoy the same democratic rights that we here in the UK do!

 

I can't believe you wrote that, what on earth are you on about, you talk to me about democracy yet you are here every day supporting the opposite, now I think you have a serious problem chap, if you're not twisting folks posts you blabber nonsense, but hey, was expected.....

[Chomper Higgot]

13 hours ago, evadgib said:

Another fishing/marine related link from HMG blowing smoke in the direction of those in the rhubarb brigade who slagged off our crown dependencies as recently as yesterday....

 

World’s most remote island helps UK exceed protected ocean target

 

 

You do realize that Government ‘statements, are propaganda?!

[transam]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You do realize that Government ‘statements, are propaganda?!

And some of you still think Brexit is......................................????

[luckyluke]

23 hours ago, transam said:

You obviously do not see, or you dismiss, the "likes", given to those from across the channel slagging off the UK, and not only about Brexit stuff.

I and others do take note of that kind of stuff. 

"Democracy", more like treachery in a few cases here.......????

I assume you also took note of the Haha & Confused emoticons from the Hard Brexiteers and sympathizers, on every post which is not in line with their opinion.

 

Once again, this is a forum, where such things happen.

Moderation is therefore present to watch and intervene when they think necessary.

[Surelynot]

A senior Tory's quote on Dominic Cummings.....

[vogie]

6 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

I assume you also took note of the Haha & Confused emoticons from the Hard Brexiteers and sympathizers, on every post which is not in line with their opinion.

 

Once again, this is a forum, where such things happen.

Moderation is therefore present to watch and intervene when they think necessary.

There is no such thing as hard Brexiteers, only Brexiteers.

As getting yourself worked over trivial emoticons, it is not important, I have my own anti followers who have nothing better to do than leave me negative faces on a lot of my posts, it does not matter.

[luckyluke]

6 minutes ago, vogie said:

There is no such thing as hard Brexiteers, only Brexiteers.

You may be right,

 

I read this, where it is stating there is apparently a hard and soft Brexit, thus I deducted there must be hard and soft Brexiteers :

 

https://marketbusinessnews.com/financial-glossary/hard-brexit-definition-meaning/

[Surelynot]

He was right...leave does mean leave.....Princess Nut Nuts (Cummings pet name for for Carrie Symonds) gets her way after bombarding Dithering Johnson with 25 texts a day.....what a joke this Tory party has become.

[Laughing Gravy]

28 minutes ago, vogie said:

There is no such thing as hard Brexiteers, only Brexiteers.

You are correct the term was coined by remainers who couldn't accept a democratic referendum and to justify keeping the UK tied to the EU ,came up with the phrase.

 

This went against the remains leader David Cameron who told the whole nation countless times that if the leave vote won, it meant leaving the Single market, the ECJ and Customs Union.

 

How many posters on here forget this important factor or have selective memories or the onset of dementia.

 

[luckyluke]

4 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

he term was coined by remainers

That's one point of view.

 

See my previous post  : an article from M.B.N.,

according to themselves :

"Market Business News is an online newspaper that specializes in publishing financial, economic, stock market, and business news articles on a daily basis."

[Surelynot]

Why is there any discussion of compromise ??? These are our waters (up to mid-points or 200 miles) and our fish....we have been told time and time again......there will be no compromise ......I am confused?

[Laughing Gravy]

1 minute ago, luckyluke said:

That's one point of view.

 

See my previous post  : an article from M.B.N.,

according to themselves :

"Market Business News is an online newspaper that specializes in publishing financial, economic, stock market, and business news articles on a daily basis."

What is not in question is the fact what David Cameron consistently told the UK population., if you were around before these Brexit threads and took an interest as you do now, you would have seen it.

 

Although many posters have posted the facts on this countless times.

 

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/explainer-what-is-hard-brexit-a3365896.html

 

Here is another argument but again all the same which goes against what the leader of remain campaign continually stated over and over again.

[transam]

1 hour ago, luckyluke said:

I assume you also took note of the Haha & Confused emoticons from the Hard Brexiteers and sympathizers, on every post which is not in line with their opinion.

 

Once again, this is a forum, where such things happen.

Moderation is therefore present to watch and intervene when they think necessary.

The  emijons are just to send a thought message, both sides on this thread use them....Go check...????

[luckyluke]

2 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

What is not in question is the fact what David Cameron consistently told the UK population., if you were around before these Brexit threads and took an interest as you do now, you would have seen it.

 

Although many posters have posted the facts on this countless times.

 

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/explainer-what-is-hard-brexit-a3365896.html

 

Here is another argument but again all the same which goes against what the leader of remain campaign continually stated over and over again.

I see you are agree there are different sources, references, opinions.

 

I assume we both can declare, there is no one and unique point of view, and that each of us, in particular, choose the one which suits him the best.

[Laughing Gravy]

1 minute ago, luckyluke said:

I see you are agree there are different sources, references, opinions.

 

I assume we both can declare, there is no one and unique point of view, and that each of us, in particular, choose the one which suits him the best.

I don't agree on the idea.

Even the challenged know what Brexit was about.

 

We were told countless times. it was leaving the ECJ, The single market and customs union. That is Brexit.

 

Once the remainers lost they coined the term hard Brexit to keep the UK in the EU. That is the fact.

 

You can fluff it up as much as you want and generally remainers do that. As you constantly state that you are not a remainer as you are not British, why are you so hung up ion the terms. Brexit is Brexit not hard or soft or any other daft term put before it.

 

Those that use this terms in my opinion are disingenuous.

[transam]

43 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

He was right...leave does mean leave.....Princess Nut Nuts (Cummings pet name for for Carrie Symonds) gets her way after bombarding Dithering Johnson with 25 texts a day.....what a joke this Tory party has become.

I prefer the Tories to that of a Labour leader that cosied up with terrorists, or a Lib Dem leader that would have quashed the people's winning vote to leave the EU just to get into no.10, as it was the only way she knew it could happen,  but how about you...????