Trump files new election challenge, Georgia announces recount

[Sujo]

Will be funny when the georgia recount increases bidens lead.

[Phoenix Rising]

2 hours ago, DoctorG said:

Guess you cannot tell the difference between reporting a possible crime or victimizing people for their political beliefs.

And I guess DoctorG was away that day in med school when they taught the students about the decease called "Hoperbole syndrom".

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11 minutes ago, Silurian said:

 

Funny how only the Presidential votes are under such scrutiny. What about the House and Senate races? Basically, the MAGA team is stating that there was voter fraud/manipulation for just the Presidential ticket but these fraudsters were not smart enough to fake/manipulate votes for down ballot democrats. Yeah, right that make sense. Not.

I'm going to be stealing that point you raised and using it elsewhere.

[AlexRich]

2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Don't understand the dems resistance to making sure the count is right. What are they afraid of?

What resistance? What law suits have Democrats filed?

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, DoctorG said:

Guess you cannot tell the difference between reporting a possible crime or victimizing people for their political beliefs.

I think most people can tell the difference between reason and delusion. I'll make an exception for 47.5% of voting Americans.

Although it's probably something you don't care about, you do realize to most non-Americans, the USA has become a plague pit and fruitcake feast in the space of a few months?

[evadgib]

I remain of the opinion that is not over just yet & that nothing would surprise me these days ????

 

(#StopTheSteal)

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

2 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Did Stacey Abrams ever concede the Georgia governors race...or is she still claiming to have won the 2018 election? Sounds pretty Trump to me...but if you're a Democrat you get media and social praise for being a bad loser.

 

Why Stacey Abrams Is Still Saying She Won https://nyti.ms/2GPzF4l

 

Stacey Abrams’ False Claims About Election Integrity 

https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/commentary/stacey-abrams-false-claims-about-election-integrity

 

In a much closer race than is the case here, she publicly acknowledged her opponent as the victor, ceased pursuing legal challenges and allowed the process to proceed, about two weeks after the election via her speech on Nov. 16, 2018.

 

https://qz.com/1468560/read-stacey-abrams-full-concession-speech/

 

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I acknowledge that former Secretary of State Brian Kemp will be certified as the victor in the 2018 gubernatorial election.

...

Concession means to acknowledge an action is right, true or proper. As a woman of conscience and faith, I cannot concede. But my assessment is that the law currently allows no further viable remedy.

Now, I could certainly bring a new case to keep this one contest alive, but I don’t want to hold public office if I need to scheme my way into the post. Because the title of Governor isn’t nearly as important as our shared title. Voters.

 

 

When's Trump going to man up, given that he's much farther behind in most of the remaining at issue states where Biden is leading and has been called as victor?

 

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1 minute ago, evadgib said:

I remain of the opinion that is not over just yet & that nothing would surprise me these days ????

 

(#StopTheSteal)

Impervious to evidence much?

[evadgib]

16 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Impervious to evidence much?

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I remain of the opinion

....furthermore i'm a Ponti but unlike most I actually admit it.

HTH

Edited November 12, 2020 by evadgib

[Odysseus123]

4 hours ago, Tug said:

just run him off allready enough of this troll

Yes....a 5 year social media troll.Quite an accurate description,I think.

[Pattaya Spotter]

15 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

In a much closer race than is the case here, she publicly acknowledged her opponent as the victor, ceased pursuing legal challenges and allowed the process to proceed, about two weeks after the election via her speech on Nov. 16, 2018.

 

https://qz.com/1468560/read-stacey-abrams-full-concession-speech/

 

 

When's Trump going to man up, given that he's much farther behind in most of the remaining at issue states where Biden is leading and has been called as victor?

 

So during those two weeks (we're a little over 1 week with Trump) Ms Abrams was pilloried and vilified by the media and Democrat Party for not immediately conceding right? What the left never understands is what goes around comes around...calling Trump and illegitimate president put in office by Putin for 4 years will now redound to Biden by Republicans.

Edited November 12, 2020 by Pattaya Spotter

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3 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

So during those two weeks (we're a little over 1 week with Trump) Ms Abrams was pilloried and vilified by the media and Democrat Party for not immediately conceding right?

As has been repeatedly noted the issue was different. Kemp was running for governor while he was Secretary of State. He refused to resign but rather continued to make electoral decisions that favored him. His behavior was clearly unethical.

[stevenl]

25 minutes ago, evadgib said:

I remain of the opinion that is not over just yet & that nothing would surprise me these days ????

 

(#StopTheSteal)

 

23 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Impervious to evidence much?

 

19 minutes ago, evadgib said:

....furthermore i'm a Ponti but unlike most I actually admit it.

HTH

So yes, impervious to evidence. My opinion doesn't gel with the facts, but hey, I stick with my opinion.

[Chomper Higgot]

Trump’s problem with Georgia is he’s struggling to grasp the reality that the GOP’s concerted effort of gerrymandering, voter purges and voter suppression in Georgia failed to get Trump elected.

 

Stacey Abrams learned her lesson, she got organized and she got even. 

 

Her voter registration drive not only flipped Georgia but it gave me a good idea for an Avatar.

 

When I said months back I was backing voter registration drives, this is exactly what I was referring to.

 

[rudi49jr]

So far The Donald is 0 for 10 with all these lawsuits. He’s certainly doing his level best to keep that perfect record of strike-outs. Go Donald!!

[Lacessit]

I'm not sure why the Republicans are celebrating a recount in Georgia, I thought that was automatic in some states when the vote difference is < 0.5%. Having said that, I suspect if the shoe was on the other foot, and Democrats wanted a recount, Trump would be screaming I won, rack off.

[Phoenix Rising]

Trump may accept results but never concede, aides say

 

".....there is also growing frustration inside the White House — what allies described as “embarrassment” as well as “uncertainty and doubt and confusion” — over the president’s refusal to acknowledge the election result and chart a path forward.

“This is unsustainable,” another aide said."

[Pattaya Spotter]

15 minutes ago, placeholder said:

As has been repeatedly noted the issue was different. Kemp was running for governor while he was Secretary of State. He refused to resign but rather continued to make electoral decisions that favored him. His behavior was clearly unethical.

That's not the question...Kemp was certified the winner and Ms Abrams trashed and undermined the voting process for two weeks (and still does).

[Phoenix Rising]

3 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

That's not the question...Kemp was certified the winner and Ms Abrams trashed and undermined the voting process for two weeks (and still does).

And?

[Crossy]

A post discussing moderation and the replies to it have been removed per forum rules.

[Phoenix Rising]

Security officials say the US will be a 'crippled world power' until Biden takes over and fear Trump will declassify intelligence that will help Putin

 

I'm afraid that train has left the station. I'm sure he's already handed his boss in Moscow all the info he was told to deliver. 

Edited November 12, 2020 by Phoenix Rising

[onthedarkside]

Several posts making false and unsupported claims about the election process also have been removed.

[Phoenix Rising]

Ex-Defense Secretary: Trump Admin Acting More Like Dictatorship Than Democracy

 

"Former Defense Secretary William Cohen on Tuesday slammed Donald Trump’s administration for acting like a “dictatorship” as the president refuses to acknowledge defeat in the 2020 election.

“We’re witnessing the decimation of the democratic institutions which the American people have come to expect will be nonpolitical in terms of our national security,” Cohen told CNN’s Don Lemon.

Lemon asked Cohen, a GOP former senator for Maine who led the Pentagon during Bill Clinton’s presidency, to comment on Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s refusal to recognize the victory of President-elect Joe Biden."

[PatOngo]

Disgusting loser, Trump!

[radiochaser]

Electoral College!

 

[Phoenix Rising]

Military families angry after Trump campaign appears to accuse them of ‘criminal voter fraud’

 

"A military wife who said President Donald Trump’s campaign falsely accused her family of “criminal voter fraud” has spoken out, recalling in a new interview the “shock” she felt seeing the accusation, which she said “had been made without any basis in fact”."

[Srikcir]

4 hours ago, vandeventer said:

Georgia is doing the right thing! All the blue states that were ahead in the count should do the same thing, hand -count. After all if there is no corruption what do you have to hide?

The recount in Georgia is unrelated to any allegations of election corruption, fraud or ballot mishandling. With first-time use of machine counting, a manual recount was mandated before the election to confirm the accuracy of the machine count through a physical recount. No significant inaccuracy is anticipated.

[vandeventer]

This election is not about Biden or Trump it's about the Dems. changing the whole system. I won't say any more on this subject as I have been taking too many holidays lately.

[cdemundo]

4 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Don't understand the dems resistance to making sure the count is right. What are they afraid of?

I don't think there is much resistance to recount.  But past recounts have resulted in changes in state vote totals on the order of hundreds of votes.  Not nearly enough to change results in the disputed states.  But count away, nobody minds.

 

[Silurian]

Looks like the Arizona election result will be universally called for Biden. The Decision Desk just called it for Biden.

 

Biden is on the cusp of securing Arizona’s 11 electoral votes

 

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Trump narrowed Biden’s lead to about 11,600, but he’ll need to secure 74% of nearly 25,000 votes left uncounted to secure the state’s 11 electoral votes.

Several news outlets already proclaimed Biden the winner in Arizona, including Decision Desk who called the race tonight in favor of the Democrat. 

Arizona’s recount law is specific. It gets automatically triggered if Trump pulls within 200 votes. There is no other path to a recount in the state.

 

 

Even Arizona's Republican AG stated the race is basically over in Biden's favor. The article below is from about a day earlier so that is why the vote count is different than from the above quote. As you can see, the percentages just keep getting worse and worse for Donald.

 

Arizona Republican AG: ‘Biden will win Arizona,’ claims of fraud not ‘reality’

 

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Arizona’s Republican attorney general on Wednesday said it’s highly unlikely that President Trump will win the state over Joe Biden, as he dismissed unfounded claims of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election.

Mark Brnovich noted that Trump would need to be named on at least 65 percent of the 50,000 ballots left to count in Arizona in order to catch up and exceed the president-elect’s final vote count, deeming that this was statistically “very, highly unlikely to happen.”

 

Edited November 12, 2020 by Silurian