Pandemic is a "golden opportunity" to reintroduce "premium" tourists to the wonders of Thai culture

[chilli42]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Achiraya Thammaparipatana of Hivesters thinks it is time to reconnect with what every tourist wants - to understand more about the real Thailand. 

My advice to K Achiraya is to go back and (re)read her market research reports.  My instinct is that tourists come to Thailand for many reasons but I think this particular reason will be very low on the list.

[ThailandRyan]

5 hours ago, Sametboy2019 said:

When Thais visit Holland do they want to know how windmills work, how to make cheese and grow tulips and wear wooden shoes?

I think they want to stick their fingers in the leaky dykes. Bring the cheese and Tulip bulbs back here to plant.  But most of all they want to import the world's culture back to Thailand and move forward not backwards as their current culture seems to be very similar to several hundered years ago.  Sure it is nice to see where Clay pots and bronze were used, but no one wants to learn how to make clay pots and bronze buddah statues. Everyone can visit a museum.

[Megasin1]

What can you say, the endless, relentless, ridiculous straw grasping (could that be a Thai cultural hobby?)....hmm better book a flight, 3 weeks of straw grasping training, here I come......

Just as you think this constant blabbing on about trying to rejuvenate a dead industry is becoming so boring that I have considered not to bother reading any more news posts, they come up with a masterful gem which has me rolling on the floor with laughter.

Digital nomads, millionaires who want to invest millions, cruise passengers (from non-existent ships), premium tourists (I think they mean the ones that don't have to be followed around Swampy with a pooper scooper), basket weavers, medical tourists, sports tourists etc. etc., I just can't wait to see when they will open up as hub for painters and decorators and of course, you can't leave out bish-bosh loads of dosh plasterers they could bring in absolutely millions ????

[ChaiyaTH]

Almost everyone I meet now, still being here, is interested in a nice swimming pool, food, drinks and girls lol. Actually few I know are interested in what the TAT tells us to be interested in. Yet we have to pay insane prices for a bottle of average decent wine. Change that instead!

[Chiang Mai Bill]

5 hours ago, Sametboy2019 said:

Achiraya Thammaparipatana of Hivesters thinks it is time to reconnect with what every tourist wants - to understand more about the real Thailand. 

She claimed that everyone wants to learn about things like weaving bags and baskets and mats, fishing and painting on handicrafts and the like.

 

How deluded! When Thais visit Holland do they want to know how windmills work, how to make cheese and grow tulips and wear wooden shoes?

People travel to see new things, enjoy architecture, mountains, beaches, good food and relax. Now Thailand can offer these things. What it needs to do is improve what they already have and implement changes to some of their stupid rules.

1.Not being able to buy alcohol between 2-5pm. 

2. Reduce import tax on alcohol. The decent beer or wine prices here are crazy.

3.Clean up the streets and sort out the dog and cat problems.

4. Improve service and English.

With the Baht being so high tourists will not accept the low standards like they did 10-15 years ago.

People will also mention the roads but i cant see that improving unless the roads are policed because Thais just do as they please in general and dont worry about the consequences of their actions.

 

1. I can 'just about' live with the ban on alcohol between 2-5pm.

 

2. Yep! Reduce the tax on alochol!  But wasn't the tax increased 2 years ago to deter the Thais from drinking so much -- especially wine which we all know they drink great quantities of!!!

 

3. Local authorities should educate and prosecute those that dump rubbish  -- especially in tourist areas!

 

4. But why improve spoken 'English' -- ''There has been little recovery in Thailand with the previous top three markets - the Chinese, Russians and Malaysians - all absent along with the money they used to bring.''  The English-speaking -- and many Europeans -- don't really count, obviously!

[Chiang Mai Bill]

9 minutes ago, chilli42 said:

My advice to K Achiraya is to go back and (re)read her market research reports.  My instinct is that tourists come to Thailand for many reasons but I think this particular reason will be very low on the list.

It's pretty obvious that Thailand needs to introduce good ''foreign blood'' into it's political structure.  Thai nationals seem to have little knowledge of reality and economics! Probably down to poor education and/or appointments made to ''favoured'' -- or rich -- friends and relatives.

[TKDfella]

Well, they can talk about the 'real Thailand' if they want to but while you're teaching 'everybody' Arts and Crafts the 'real world' wants...what? Arts & Crafts? I don't think so. Fine as extra curricular activity but Thailand will lag behind in the subjects necessary for advancement. On the other hand it is a good opportunity to keep and increase control over ordinary people. 

[Oxx]

5 hours ago, quake said:

I was thinking, what about the real Thailand. 

 

 

Those must be really old photographs.  Since providing free plastic bags in supermarkets was ended the country has solved its problem with plastic waste and been restored to a beautiful, pristine environment.

[ExpatOne]

???? That’s going to help tourism a ton! Way to go guys, excellent solution to an easy to solve problem. ????????????????

[welshguy]

Another day....yet another buffoon spouting more and more tripe!

 

Thailnd has been very lucky, in the past, with the sheer amount of tourists its had..........let alone so called "premium" tourists.

 

They seem to have done very very little, to sustain their tourism, done next to nothing to "keep up" with other countries.

 

Sure, I love Thailand...Im no "premium" tourist...Im just a hard working man  (Oh no! I retired this year!!...but you know what I mean!) who spends £1,000s  of my hard earned EVERY trip I come to Thailand.

 

Ive been doing this for almost 40 years now...over that time...Ive "got used" to the two tier pricing, the dirty sois, roads, rubbish, plastic etc etc etc just dumped any and everywhere klongs beaches etc ,the appalling standard of driving, etc etc...Ive been coming here for 40 years, so during that time...I as I said, have got "used to it"...and put up with it etc....WHY would a so called "premium"  tourist, who can read and will see what Thailand is all about, put up with this....Thailand  T.A.T. and the guys in charge, seem blissfully unaware, that there are many many more places to visit other than Thailand?  Why would they choose a place with crazy dogs everywhere, total carnage on the roads, pavements , unable to be walked on, as they are full of people selling stuff, and in a bad state of dis-repair..etc etc...I could go on for hours...but I have to take the puppy to the vets soon!

 

Im not "knocking" Thailand at all...I love it.  love the country and the people love it all.

 

What I dont understand, is how in the 21st century? They are allowed to spout such utter garbage day in day out...do they think everybody in the world doesnt see what is going on in Thailand?  Im desperate to get back to Thailand..Im "hoping" this time next year  (hopefully a few months earlier!) I ,and many others will be allowed to get back there..

 

Im my humble opinion> WHEN tourism does return to some some of normal...Thailand should be extremely grateful......(as will practically any other country in the world) for ANY toursit spending their hard earned pound/dollar/euro/yen etc etc,? I very much doubt Thailand will get anywhere near the massive tourist numbers theyve had in recent years.

 

Theyve been milking tourists for so long now, and have done very little to improve tourism there..(dont get me started on Thai "red tape"!)....yet they seem to expect milions of millionaires spending loads of money there?

 

Hmmn yeah ok!

[ThailandRyan]

5 minutes ago, Oxx said:

 

Those must be really old photographs.  Since providing free plastic bags in supermarkets was ended the country has solved its problem with plastic waste and been restored to a beautiful, pristine environment.

NOT!!!!, they 7-11 and the other small markets as well as the street vendors still hand out plastic bags. Just go to any Talad and buy your fruits and vegetables, into a plastic bag they go.

[Mark17AA]

The only weaving going on will be on the back of a suicide taxi along Sukhumvit! 

[animatic]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

 

She claimed that everyone wants to learn about things like weaving bags and baskets and mats, fishing and painting on handicrafts and the like. 

 

Right.  Premium tourists are basket weavers...

:roll eyes:

[berrec]

So my 10 to 12  Aussie alcoholic, bar bending, girl chasing golfing fanatics mates that visit Pattaya three times a year are not premium tourists.

 

<deleted>; I best let them know to head off to Vietnam next year to spend their premium tens of thousands of dollars; as they are not on Thailand's preferred list of tourist types.    

[Sametboy2019]

37 minutes ago, Chiang Mai Bill said:

1. I can 'just about' live with the ban on alcohol between 2-5pm.

 

2. Yep! Reduce the tax on alochol!  But wasn't the choiceincre ased 2 years ago to deter the Thais from drinking so much -- especially wine which we all know they drink great quantities of!!!

 

3. Local authorities should educate and prosecute those that dump rubbish  -- especially in tourist areas!

 

4. But why improve spoken 'English' -- ''There has been little recovery in Thailand with the previous top three markets - the Chinese, Russians and Malaysians - all absent along with the money they used to bring.''  The English-speaking -- and many Europeans -- don't really count, obviously!

1.Its not about being able to live without its about people on holiday being able to have a choice. 

2.Not talking about alcohol for Thais. Im talking about other options for tourists-imported. I think the wine tax is to keep the lower middle class away so the elite can post their photos online.

3. Of course but unlikely to happen.

4. Agreed but English is the International business language. Whats the point learning several languages instead of one especially as English will help you outside the Tourist sector if you change profession.

 

[ronaldo0]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Pandemic is a "golden opportunity" to reintroduce "premium" tourists to the wonders of Thai culture

This has clearly been written wrong .
It meant to say “ Pandemic is a golden opportunity to introduce premiums to tourists who wonder about Thai culture “ ????????????????

[hotchilli]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

She claimed that everyone wants to learn about things like weaving bags and baskets and mats, fishing and painting on handicrafts and the like.

They can get that on google without the need to travel and get gouged !

Think again.

[herfiehandbag]

3 hours ago, Fairynuff said:

I wish I knew what these guys were on, I’d love to get some

Driven by desperation - they planned a reset of the tourist industry, they had willfully allowed (if not caused) the existing one to collapse. The previous labour force and small business owners who served tourism are gone - "back on their farms", unemployed, destitute. The reset required investment in a variety of (they thought) highly lucrative schemes: quarantine, medical, transport, a closed overpriced mandatory insurance scheme; and nobody (well 680 odd next month) has fallen for it!

 

It's all gone wrong for them - they were happy to see millions devastated because they thought they would benefit. It hasn't worked. all that "influence" wasted to climb aboard a bandwagon which is totally stalled. They are desperate.

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

The money is all absent, along with the tourists it used to bring. 

Thailand drove the cultural activities underground in favour of Pattaya walking streets, Nana plaza and the like.

[Bim Smith]

She claimed that everyone wants to learn about things like weaving bags and baskets and mats, fishing and painting on handicrafts and the like. 

 

Everyone? Boy did she miss a meeting 

[metisdead]

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[Bangkok Barry]

6 hours ago, quake said:

I was thinking, what about the real Thailand. 

 

 

And let's not forget...

[TigerandDog]

7 hours ago, tonray said:

...don't forget a good soapy massage too

are poor comments like this actually necessary. It doesn't add anything to the topic, and only shows how small minded some people are.

[AlfHuy]

6 hours ago, quake said:

I was thinking, what about the real Thailand. 

 

That would be an attraction for the high spending Ch.... tourists.

[sawadee1947]

Thai Culture???? 

I'm tempted to Thai bashing ????

And will not comment what's going on in the streets of BKK mainly ????

And not mention the road carnage ????

And not easy finished lives ????

And not the pollution in BKk or CM

But I reckon I'll find something about Thai Culture the Govt would like me to see ????

[EVENKEEL]

19 minutes ago, TigerandDog said:

are poor comments like this actually necessary. It doesn't add anything to the topic, and only shows how small minded some people are.

Yes, they are needed. They never get old.

[Justgrazing]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

Hivesters

Hivesters .! Is she talking Hivi vests or investors who are high .. 

[Jack Cook]

 Bwwaaa Haaaaaa Haaaaaa, todays dose of delusion ????????????????????????????????????????????????

[bodga]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

everyone wants to learn about things like weaving bags and baskets and mats, fishing and painting on handicrafts and the like. 

Oh  my,  I  lie  awake at  night just dreaming of  it????

[Robin]

"She claimed that everyone wants to learn about things like weaving bags and baskets and mats, fishing and painting on handicrafts and the like."

 

I doubt if there is 1 Thai in 100 who knows how to do any of these crafts.  Probably not 1 in 500 of Thais under 30.  

These are quaint, traditional crafts that no relevance to the famous 'Thailand 4.0'

As long as Thailand is governed by idiots like this, who have lived their whole working lives in a secure job with guaranteed salary, this sort of stupidity will go on.

Starts at the top:  when has PM Gen Prayuth ever had to earn his living?