No Brexit trade deal yet as serious issues remain, British minister says

[CorpusChristie]

39 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

So, next negotiations in German, French or another EU member country's language

 

As a London trader told me

 

when you know two languages, you are bilingual

with 3, you are triple lingual

with 4.. you are en genius

with just only one... you are British 

 

  You speak my language , I have no need to learn yours 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

If Charles de Gaulle had any gonads, he wouldn't have let his country be overtaken by the Germans and why are  the Dutch so happy as they were decimated by the Germans. So short memories.

An example of the ignorant garbage we have come to expect from Brexiteers.

[luckyluke]

6 minutes ago, ivor bigun said:

"Germany is now part of the E.U"., no Germany is the EU.,with its lapdog France at its heels.

Some, mostly Britons, have indeed that opinion.

And maybe they are right,

 

or than wrong. 

 

[Susco]

18 minutes ago, ivor bigun said:

"Germany is now part of the E.U"., no Germany is the EU.,with its lapdog France at its heels.

 

Germany and France are both countries with a a lot of power in the world, because they have grown and developed in a way most other countries haven't.

 

And that is something the Brits never could digest, because they are now only a shadow of the empire they once were

[Opl]

17 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  You speak my language , I have no need to learn yours 

"Dieu est mon droit"

"Honi soit qui mal y pense"

 

[ivor bigun]

1 hour ago, Susco said:

 

Germany and France are both countries with a a lot of power in the world, because they have grown and developed in a way most other countries haven't.

 

And that is something the Brits never could digest, because they are now only a shadow of the empire they once were

France have a lot of power ,yes at striking and having 3 hour lunch breaks ,and Germany is not in great shape either ,check it out.

[david555]

Quote about the fishing agreement in the so called deal done (long list of that deal  .....this only about fishing hidden almost in the last lines down down ...)

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/24/boris-johnson-to-claim-victory-in-brexit-talks-leaked-paper-reveals

On fisheries, the issue that dogged the talks right to the end, the UK document says there was a “mutual compromise”. Frost had said that the UK should retain the right to close off access to European fleets if an annual negotiation over quotas did not result in a mutually satisfactory conclusion. Brussels was demanding greater assurances for its fishing communities.

 

The final deal provides for a transition period of five and a half years to allow new quotas to be phased during which European fleets will retain full access to waters, including the zone six to 12 nautical miles from the British coastline, an area the UK had wanted to retain exclusively for UK flagged vessels.

Edited December 24, 2020 by david555

[jvs]

It is official,there is a deal!

[vinny41]

9 minutes ago, david555 said:

Quote about the fishing agreement in the so called deal done (long list of that deal  .....this only about fishing hidden almost in the last lines down down ...)

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/24/boris-johnson-to-claim-victory-in-brexit-talks-leaked-paper-reveals

On fisheries, the issue that dogged the talks right to the end, the UK document says there was a “mutual compromise”. Frost had said that the UK should retain the right to close off access to European fleets if an annual negotiation over quotas did not result in a mutually satisfactory conclusion. Brussels was demanding greater assurances for its fishing communities.

 

The final deal provides for a transition period of five and a half years to allow new quotas to be phased during which European fleets will retain full access to waters, including the zone six to 12 nautical miles from the British coastline, an area the UK had wanted to retain exclusively for UK flagged vessels.

Initally the EU asked for The EU countered by demanding unfettered access to UK waters for 14 years in return for giving back just 15 per cent of its quotas.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/12/23/brexit-dealwith-agreement-95-per-cent-else-needed/

[david555]

7 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

Initally the EU asked for The EU countered by demanding unfettered access to UK waters for 14 years in return for giving back just 15 per cent of its quotas.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/12/23/brexit-dealwith-agreement-95-per-cent-else-needed/

I am only giving you the first technical's who slipped out in the latest news .... it is not boasting Vinny, i am no  Boris  ..... i just gave the quote .... calm down ...no worry's Vinny it is your U.K. waters  ....

 

Edited December 24, 2020 by david555

[puipuitom]

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

When a Lion speaks to a Duck, he doesn't quack.

Which lion ? That old flee-skin in London ? 

The advantage of learning a few languages also gives you a better listening skills. Second, it gives you the opportunity to learn and experience other cultures a lot better. These both so many British lack.

Edited December 24, 2020 by puipuitom

[puipuitom]

2 hours ago, Susco said:

 

Germany and France are both countries with a a lot of power in the world, because they have grown and developed in a way most other countries haven't.

 

And that is something the Brits never could digest, because they are now only a shadow of the empire they once were

A SHADOW of an EMPIRE... They wish it was so much...

[puipuitom]

2 hours ago, Opl said:

"Dieu est mon droit"

"Honi soit qui mal y pense"

 

When you donot know French,.. ok, but that you are not even able to copy 4 words without a mistake ...

"Dieu est mon droit"...  No: "dieu et mon droit"  means in English: "God and my right".

see Dieu et mon droit - Wikipedia 

 

There must be another joke in, as I donot understand the second part ???? ""Honi soit qui mal y pense"  sorry, my French is not so good) Honi soit qui mal y pense - Wikipedia.

In current French usage, the phrase may be used ironically to insinuate the presence of a hidden agenda or a conflict of interest.

Edited December 24, 2020 by puipuitom

[nauseus]

45 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

When you donot know French,.. ok, but that you are not even able to copy 4 words without a mistake ...

"Dieu est mon droit"...  No: "dieu et mon droit"  means in English: "God and my right".

see Dieu et mon droit - Wikipedia 

 

There must be another joke in, as I donot understand the second part ???? ""Honi soit qui mal y pense"  sorry, my French is not so good) Honi soit qui mal y pense - Wikipedia.

In current French usage, the phrase may be used ironically to insinuate the presence of a hidden agenda or a conflict of interest.

 

Take it easy....it's Christmas...he's probably well merry.

[joecoolfrog]

4 hours ago, robblok said:

Seems to be a lot of resentment from the (nationalistic) Brits towards the Germans and the French. Its like many Brits just could not accept that others took a leading role and it were not the Brits.

 

Reading the posts its always complaining about the French and the Germans, perhaps if the Brits were a bit better at politics they would have made their own alliance and got things done instead of moaning that they were not leaders by default. 

 

The past really put some strange idea's in the head of the British nationalists. Instead of working to get a coalition of like minded and get more to say in the EU they decide leaving is best. Probably because they know they can't pull it off not as it would require skill in negotiating. We havent seen much skill at all.

 

When the UK was leaving many thought they would pull some magnificent legal tricks and get what they want. We expected quality and brains. What we got was Boris.. imagine our new image of the Brits. Expecting some keen legal mind and sharp negotiators and being stuck with the likes of Boris.  

 

 

Indeed , as a patriotic Englishman I find much of this nationalistic diatribe nauseating.

Seriously , still banging on about the last war , its utterly pathetic.

Im amazed that some of them ever became expats , how could they leave paradise and live with foreigners !!!

[CorpusChristie]

4 hours ago, Susco said:

 

Germany and France are both countries with a a lot of power in the world, because they have grown and developed in a way most other countries haven't.

 

And that is something the Brits never could digest, because they are now only a shadow of the empire they once were

 

  Yes , we moved on from Empires and all that .

We dont seek World domination anymore .

Been there, done that , time to move on and to mingle with the rest of the world .

"Lesser" Countries will no longer accept being subordinates any more 

[Opl]

3 hours ago, puipuitom said:

When you donot know French,.. ok, but that you are not even able to copy 4 words without a mistake ...

"Dieu est mon droit"...  No: "dieu et mon droit"  means in English: "God and my right".

see Dieu et mon droit - Wikipedia 

 

There must be another joke in, as I donot understand the second part ???? ""Honi soit qui mal y pense"  sorry, my French is not so good) Honi soit qui mal y pense - Wikipedia.

In current French usage, the phrase may be used ironically to insinuate the presence of a hidden agenda or a conflict of interest.

 

Modern French wording  "Dieu est mon droit" - this explains the typo.  But it's not incorrect - it's an other translation.

I have the reflex to write in modern French -  

This article below explains the motto "Dieu et mon droit" and  lists different translations, variants and usages 

Diderot's Encyclopédie lists the motto as Dieu est mon droit, which Susan Emanuel translated as "God is my right" 

Dieu et mon droit | Monarchy of Britain Wiki | Fandom

 

Same for " honi" which I first wrote "honni" as usual (modern French)  but corrected because it's here spelled "honi" (ancient)  -> in everyday life we use the expression meaning  "Shame on him who thinks evil of it"   

 

Edited December 24, 2020 by Opl

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