Thailand reports 144 new COVID-19 cases as Anutin self isolates

[Nout]

7 hours ago, foreverlomsak said:

You mean he has been close to some "dirty foreigners", shame on him.

Let him isolate and then throw away the key.

Do you classify yourself and your friends and family as a dirty? Why not bathe more and use a laundry more frequently. I know some westerner dress dreadfully, wear creased clothes, look unkempt, don't shave, have stained pants and have the appearance of a homeless tramp it does not mean all foreigners are dirty...Only some

[foreverlomsak]

8 minutes ago, Nout said:

Do you classify yourself and your friends and family as a dirty? Why not bathe more and use a laundry more frequently. I know some westerner dress dreadfully, wear creased clothes, look unkempt, don't shave, have stained pants and have the appearance of a homeless tramp it does not mean all foreigners are dirty...Only some

No, but he did earlier in the year when he blamed "dirty foreigners" for bringing COVID-19 to Thailand.

[Lacessit]

I would have thought the logical thing to do would be to lock down each and every province to prevent inter-province travel during the New year holiday period, say for 14 days. Then lock down any province where new cases are found.

Maybe it's a case of too little too late, and we are heading for more restrictions.

[anchadian]

Here's the full report.

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/covid-19-infected-man-dies-heart-disease-in-rayong-province/

 

A man, who was among 92 people infected with COVID-19 related to an illegal gambling den in Thailand’s eastern province of Rayong, died today (Monday) of heart disease.

 

Deputy Public Health Minister Satit Pitutacha said in his Facebook post on Monday that the infected man, who used to work at the illegal gambling den, suffered fatigue this morning and was taken to the provincial hospital on a friend’s tricycle.

[BobinBKK]

7 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Maybe the likes on Anutin and Veerasak will start wearing masks now?

 

Previously the attitude seems to have been that they are above this requirement. Let the plebs wear masks, rant about farang not wearing them, while the 'good people' strut around preaching absolute nonsense with no mask on.

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2020/07/08/healthmin-sorry-for-flouting-his-virus-mask-rule-at-party/

 

 

 

I would like to suggest that he wear a bag over his head ????

[BobinBKK]

5 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Unfortunately there will be someone equally as qualified as Anutin to step into the breach with more words of great wisdom ????

I heard Bua Noi is in the running ????

[rabas]

5 hours ago, animatic said:

In the west the Christmas rise peak is expected to hit right after the New Years parties, so expect a surge on a surge.

You mean everyone infected on Christmas, who will certainly have symptoms by New Years, will have a big party and sneeze?  I think the second peak will be larger. Surge to the surge. 

 

Thailand's travel and holidays can have similar consequences. They should worry.

Edited December 28, 2020 by rabas

[Ebumbu]

Defeat from the jaws of victory. One less thing I had to worry about living in LOS. Hope they squash it quick. <deleted>. 

[mal2018]

3 hours ago, Dart12 said:

and think on that fact...

90% people feel GREAT, have no idea they have this "crippling disease" but it's cause for shutdown of whole countries at whims of the leaders, and the enactment of any new laws they want to put into place.
Sickening imo.

Goes to show you, like in Thailands case...if you don't test for it and then tell people they have been "infected"...

 

life is completely normal.  smh.

You hit the nail straight on the head there. Without media, there is no virus ????

[mommysboy]

It was nipped in the bud last time by decisive and quick action.  I fear they are getting complacent- now is not the time for showboating.

[sambum]

"Meanwhile, Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul is currently isolated and waiting for test results.

On Sunday, Veerasak had led Anutin and other public health officials to visit a hospital in Samut Sakhon."

 

And were they wearing masks? Seems like on every photo they are not! (Already noted by Jonny F!)

[The Now Factor]

14 days is still too long

 

 

Edited December 28, 2020 by The Now Factor

[FarangJon]

There where is no testing, there are no covid infected people. Thailand's corona miracle. Who believes that all. The same old Thai fairy tale as usual. Dont lose your face, just lie as hell.

[welovesundaysatspace]

10 hours ago, GeorgeCross said:

 

exponential growth.

 

Looks linear to me. 

[welovesundaysatspace]

10 hours ago, vandeventer said:

just tell us the deaths from this virus but not with people that have other problems that  have died with the virus.

Great idea. Next would be traffic deaths: if they remove all those who died in car accidents but also had cancer, diabetes, AIDS and other problems from the statistics, the road safety record will look much better. 

[welovesundaysatspace]

6 hours ago, Suua said:

Incorrect....as stated, 90% of cases they are finding are asymptomatic. They have been here all along. Dream on if you think Thailand has been free of covid 

So where have those 10% symptomatic cases been if it was here all along? They would have shown up in a hospital if that bogus theory of widespread Covid in Thailand was true. 

[welovesundaysatspace]

25 minutes ago, FarangJon said:

There where is no testing, there are no covid infected people. Thailand's corona miracle. Who believes that all. The same old Thai fairy tale as usual. Dont lose your face, just lie as hell.

There where is Covid, there are people being hospitalized, hooked up to a ventilator, and passing away. None of that happened in Thailand for many months, so the claim of widespread Covid infections that just aren’t detected is bogus. 

[worldexpress]

14 hours ago, bubba said:

 

As the new infection rate begins to turn exponential, it will just be a matter of days until a full national lockdown is ordered. That may not be far off now.

They announced the potential shut down timetable of March. It won't be any sooner. How dare you suggest otherwise.

[metisdead]

Some posts with off topic deflection comments generalizing about the USA have been removed as well as the replies. 

[Cadan]

50% more in 10 days of the total or 2000. After New Year when everyone travelled and comes Bangkok the numbers will rise more. Unstoppable... hope the vaccine kicks in soon before spreading further 

[Muzzique]

20 hours ago, abrahamzvi said:

That is a most cynical comment and it‘s absolute nonsense. If „most of us“ were positive , quite a few vulnerable ones would be dead by now and hospitals would be overcrowded.. 

 

There is currently a 8.5% increase in expect mortality in Thailand. Between April and end of July  2020 an extra 13000 people died than in the same months of the years between 2009-2019. This mortality data is taken from the Thai Bureau of Registration Administration. Whilst this does not mean COVID-19 is responsible it is hard to find another reason to account for this increase.

 

There is more information and links here

https://www.eastasiaforum.org/2020/08/06/lifting-the-veil-on-thailands-covid-19-success-story/

 

In addition random testing of all hospital staff in 52 cottage hospitals across Thailand between April and June 2020 shows that 3.7% of those tested have the SARS-CoV-2 antibodies' in their systems showing that they have had COVID-19 already.

 

Random testing for all patient admissions (not COVID) within the same  hospitals during the same period show 12.1% carry the same SARS-CoV-2 antibodies which indicates previous infection.

 

This report was created by the Department of Preventive and Social Medicine, Faculty of Medicine, at Chulalongkorn University is shown here.

 

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.24.20139188v3.full.pdf

 

So no, not everybody has had it. Thailand is doing as well as can be expected. You need to make your own assumptions based on the facts but it is clear that Thailand has had higher instances of COVID than we are lead to believe.

 

Do your research and don't blindly trust figures supplied by people who may not want you to know the truth.

 

Once you have that, then draw your own conclusions 

[Bradmeister]

Concur with my fellow forum posters... 

 

Nation wide lockdown now!

 

Testing centers and free vaccines for the General Public. 

 

 

[johnarth]

every one that went to Tesco in the city I live in were heat tested until last week but now it is up to the people to use the sanitizer as they enter and they do all by themselves that the way to go

[Jeffr2]

6 minutes ago, johnarth said:

every one that went to Tesco in the city I live in were heat tested until last week but now it is up to the people to use the sanitizer as they enter and they do all by themselves that the way to go

Sadly, a temp check misses asymptomatic carriers, some 20-40% of those infected.  So, they're shedding the virus and infecting others without even knowing it.  Mask up is the best approach.

[AmySeeker]

Is Antin the dude who says foreigners don't wash and use plain old toilet roll and not a jet bum wash ?

[DavisH]

55 minutes ago, Muzzique said:

 

There is currently a 8.5% increase in expect mortality in Thailand. Between April and end of July  2020 an extra 13000 people died than in the same months of the years between 2009-2019. This mortality data is taken from the Thai Bureau of Registration Administration. Whilst this does not mean COVID-19 is responsible it is hard to find another reason to account for this increase.

 

There is more information and links here

https://www.eastasiaforum.org/2020/08/06/lifting-the-veil-on-thailands-covid-19-success-story/

 

In addition random testing of all hospital staff in 52 cottage hospitals across Thailand between April and June 2020 shows that 3.7% of those tested have the SARS-CoV-2 antibodies' in their systems showing that they have had COVID-19 already.

 

Random testing for all patient admissions (not COVID) within the same  hospitals during the same period show 12.1% carry the same SARS-CoV-2 antibodies which indicates previous infection.

 

This report was created by the Department of Preventive and Social Medicine, Faculty of Medicine, at Chulalongkorn University is shown here.

 

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.24.20139188v3.full.pdf

 

So no, not everybody has had it. Thailand is doing as well as can be expected. You need to make your own assumptions based on the facts but it is clear that Thailand has had higher instances of COVID than we are lead to believe.

 

Do your research and don't blindly trust figures supplied by people who may not want you to know the truth.

 

Once you have that, then draw your own conclusions 

[Baerboxer]

On 12/28/2020 at 1:32 PM, rabas said:

Cases per day continue to rise but slowly,  I still have hope they can contain it. Quarantining Auntin the construction guy for 14 days may be just the break they need.

 

 

New cases are being identified, but the numbers fluctuate according to the figures in the OP. There is no daily linear growth as you suggest.

[ThailandRyan]

Just now, Baerboxer said:

 

New cases are being identified, but the numbers fluctuate according to the figures in the OP. There is no daily linear growth as you suggest.

And yet it should be linear and not mildly fluctuating.  We should be seeing spikes but nope.

[Baerboxer]

1 minute ago, ThailandRyan said:

And yet it should be linear and not mildly fluctuating.  We should be seeing spikes but nope.

14 Dec: +28 (4,237)

15 Dec: +9 (4,246)

16 Dec: +15 (4,261)

17 Dec: +20 (4,281)

18 Dec: +16 (4,297)

19 Dec: +34 (4,331)

20 Dec: +576 (4,907)

21 Dec: +382 (5,289)

22 Dec: +427 (5,716)

23 Dec: +46 (5,762)

24 Dec: +67 (5,829)

25 Dec: +81 (5,910)

26 Dec: +110 (6,020)

27 Dec: +121 (6,141)

28 Dec: +144 (6,285)

 

There were spikes in figures above. 20th, 21st and 22nd. 

 

Before those dates the daily figures were up and down. After those dates, from an initial drop on the 23rd the growth in numbers appears linear.

 

I don't believe it is a linear trend. Rather more like applying "gambler's fallacy". Tomorrow the chances of it being higher or lower are still the same. 

[rabas]

30 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

New cases are being identified, but the numbers fluctuate according to the figures in the OP. There is no daily linear growth as you suggest.

Of course there is linear growth. It begins on Dec 23 after the burst of foreign fish market workers. The linear growth is now the spreading throughout Thailand. This is daily cases and increasing daily cases equates to exponential growth of cases. This is why they estimate 1000s per day by mid January without strong measures.

 

 

  From the Ministry of Health, bottom graph.  https://covid19.ddc.moph.go.th/en

Edited December 29, 2020 by rabas