Pattaya: Creepy pictures sum up dire state of tourism at once popular resort

[Chooky]

14 minutes ago, tomauasia said:

Not sure they would make a ripple on these characters. Extraordinary wealth a Australian general could only dream of. And his seen war ????

Don't know about $3mill parcels of land purchased by gov for $38mill..grants of $500mill that were never asked for ..sports club grants to their locals..a PM who gives himself $42k pay rise same day he strips millions of employees penalty rates in hospitality etc..dont charge taxes to huge corporate miners while they rape Australia..and feather themselves with absurd tax free pensions while they enjoy the job they have featured in the private sector usually consulting 1 day per month for $500 k per year..I have to stop soon my typing finger hurts..but I heard the comment about Prayut's education and I ask do the English feel better being totally ripped off by private school silver spoon fed idiots.Or US where a candidate must have a personal fortune of $10mill to stand and you end up with Trump, Reagan etc...Dont you just love how well Democrazy is working.

[Leaver]

On 1/12/2021 at 5:05 PM, barney42bb said:

Sihanoukville 2 ... Waiting to happen. 

 

Ripe for the picking.

 

Gogo's would become Chinese karaoke bars, and the restaurants would cater for Chinese package tour groups only.

[Leaver]

On 1/13/2021 at 10:48 AM, Pilotman said:

He was a crook as was his sister. Let's not look back to his time through rose tinted glasses. You may argue that things haven't changed much, and you may be right, but he was no better. 

 

Yet, you do not attack the current administration with as much vigor.  Why is that?

[polpott]

12 minutes ago, Leaver said:

 

Ripe for the picking.

 

Gogo's would become Chinese karaoke bars, and the restaurants would cater for Chinese package tour groups only.

Not until gambling becomes legal, which is never.

[Leaver]

On 1/13/2021 at 11:20 AM, tomauasia said:

Regime doesn't give a thought to hookers bars and scum. Not interested. Go home work 

 

I am sure there are many local politicians, Thai landlords, and police, in the tourist areas of Thailand, who do not share that view.   

[polpott]

3 minutes ago, Leaver said:

 

I am sure there are many local politicians, Thai landlords, and police, in the tourist areas of Thailand, who do not share that view.   

They're all at it. People don't realise that there are far more girls servicing Thais than Farangs. Remember when Big Joke got his car riddled with bullets when visiting a massage parlour?

 

The main customers of the Thai girls that brought Covid back from a brothel in Myanmar were wealthy Thais.

[tomauasia]

53 minutes ago, Leaver said:

 

I am sure there are many local politicians, Thai landlords, and police, in the tourist areas of Thailand, who do not share that view.   

 They are also part of the regime's problem. Police keep the loot. That will also change in time. 

Edited January 15, 2021 by tomauasia

[GaryAdriaenssens]

On 1/12/2021 at 9:31 PM, Histavia said:

So ...what do you suggest?

WAR!

[tomauasia]

47 minutes ago, polpott said:

They're all at it. People don't realise that there are far more girls servicing Thais than Farangs. Remember when Big Joke got his car riddled with bullets when visiting a massage parlour?

 

The main customers of the Thai girls that brought Covid back from a brothel in Myanmar were wealthy Thais.

8 years living in Thailand and l.speak full Thai. The girls you refer to are the C graders. The A grade don't like Somchai.

Well of track. They pay 500 baht or free. The very few high rolling old Thais yes they pay. It's all over in 20 minutes 

[Leaver]

52 minutes ago, polpott said:

Not until gambling becomes legal, which is never.

 

What's the connection between gambling and Chinese karaoke bars and restaurants?  

 

12 months from now, when Walking Street is on its knees, wealthy Chinese can come in and buy up. 

 

Gogo's are easily converted into Chinese karaoke bars, and will have Chinese singers working illegally in them.  The restaurants are on the water, and will be for Chinese tour group operators only. 

 

Eventually, any remaining gogo's or restaurants sell, as Walking Street becomes known as China Town Pattaya.

 

The corrupt Thai's involved will have no problem with this as high / low seasons are not an issue, and the rent, and tea money, is paid on time, every month.    

[Leaver]

53 minutes ago, polpott said:

They're all at it. People don't realise that there are far more girls servicing Thais than Farangs. Remember when Big Joke got his car riddled with bullets when visiting a massage parlour?

 

The main customers of the Thai girls that brought Covid back from a brothel in Myanmar were wealthy Thais.

 

A lot of the girls serving Thai's are also from other countries in South East Asia.   No work permit needed.  ???? 

[Pilotman]

1 hour ago, Leaver said:

 

Yet, you do not attack the current administration with as much vigor.  Why is that?

i actually think they are not all that bad. In all the history of Thailand, they have had much worse administrations. 

[Leaver]

4 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

i actually think they are not all that bad. In all the history of Thailand, they have had much worse administrations. 

 

You don't see any comparison between what Thailand has now, and the military junta in Myanmar?  

[Pilotman]

1 minute ago, Leaver said:

 

You don't see any comparison between what Thailand has now, and the military junta in Myanmar?  

none at all

[Leaver]

1 minute ago, Pilotman said:

none at all

 

I suggest you do some reading.  

[Pilotman]

4 minutes ago, Leaver said:

 

I suggest you do some reading.  

i do and to compare the two is ridiculous. 

[Leaver]

Just now, Pilotman said:

i do and to compare the two is ridiculous. 

 

So Prayut won the election fairly.  No manipulation, of any kind.  Is that your position?  

[polpott]

58 minutes ago, tomauasia said:

8 years living in Thailand and l.speak full Thai. The girls you refer to are the C graders. The A grade don't like Somchai.

Well of track. They pay 500 baht or free. The very few high rolling old Thais yes they pay. It's all over in 20 minutes 

I speak Thai and conversational Lao/Issan. You're way off mark. A cheap brothel in a regional town you may get away with 500 baht. In a Thai Gentlemens club in Bangkok, you'll be lucky to come away with less than 10k baht. Some of them are so busy with Hi So Thais that you have to book in advance. Most of the girls will only go with Thai men.

 

Why do you think that the girls went to a brothel in Mayanmar? Big money.

 

 

Edited January 15, 2021 by polpott

[polpott]

1 hour ago, Leaver said:

What's the connection between gambling and Chinese karaoke bars and restaurants?  

Its more to do with Pattaya being Sihanoukville 2. It only took off when Hun Sen did a deal with the Chinese to allow them to build casinos. Now more than 70 high end Chinese casinos there. The big fella will never allow gambling to become legal in Thailand.

[Leaver]

23 minutes ago, polpott said:

Its more to do with Pattaya being Sihanoukville 2. It only took off when Hun Sen did a deal with the Chinese to allow them to build casinos. Now more than 70 high end Chinese casinos there. The big fella will never allow gambling to become legal in Thailand.

 

He may, he may not, but what has that got to do with the Chinese buying up covid distressed assets in Pattaya, on mass, and turning them into Chinese orientated establishments?   

[Leaver]

39 minutes ago, polpott said:

Why do you think that the girls went to a brothel in Mayanmar? Big money.

 

I believe they were hooking out of casinos there, serving wealthy Thai's, who also crossed the boarder illegally.  

[polpott]

Just now, Leaver said:

 

He may, he may not, but what has that got to do with the Chinese buying up covid distressed assets in Pattaya, on mass, and turning them into Chinese orientated establishments?   

They wouldn't get the customers. Walking street is for the Chinese flag followers. Moneyed Chinese want casinos when they go on holiday. For gambling, the most obsessed race in the world.

[polpott]

2 minutes ago, Leaver said:

 

I believe they were hooking out of casinos there, serving wealthy Thai's, who also crossed the boarder illegally.  

Yep, they were the on tap totty for the casino goers. Same in Sihanoukville.

[jadee]

Sorry if this comes off as a rant, but all these people going on about how "covid is the death of walking street" completely overlook these 'youtubers' who just film everything and everyone a post it online. That just killed it - like who wants to fly halfway round the world just to be videoed talking to hookers? I get it - it's a public place, anything can be filmed etc etc but seriously, it really killed the vibe LONG before covid was a thing. 

[Leaver]

54 minutes ago, polpott said:

They wouldn't get the customers. Walking street is for the Chinese flag followers. Moneyed Chinese want casinos when they go on holiday. For gambling, the most obsessed race in the world.

 

True, but there are hundreds of millions of Chinese gaining enough wealth to be able to have a cheap holiday to a different country.  We saw this pre covid.  The Chinese made up the bulk of the tourist stats here.  

 

It's these Chinese that the tour operators will be buying up assets for here.  

 

There are a huge amount of businesses for sale here now.  The Chinese can wait, then buy up big.    

 

It's not impossible that Pattaya can head down the same path as Sihanoukville, without casinos, for the growing middle class of Chinese.

[Leaver]

1 hour ago, polpott said:

Yep, they were the on tap totty for the casino goers. Same in Sihanoukville.

 

Thailand is losing soooooooo much money by not offering casinos.  Even Thai citizens are gambling in neighbouring countries, further strengthening Thailand's competition. 

[polpott]

4 hours ago, Leaver said:

 

Thailand is losing soooooooo much money by not offering casinos.  Even Thai citizens are gambling in neighbouring countries, further strengthening Thailand's competition. 

Actually, same as the zero baht tours, most of the money made in Shianokville went straight back to China. They even ended up with Chinese street vendors.

[Pilotman]

13 hours ago, Leaver said:

 

So Prayut won the election fairly.  No manipulation, of any kind.  Is that your position?  

I didn't say that did I? 

In Myanmar, there has been violent suppression of the people by the Military for many decades , murder, rape and ethnic cleansing of minority Muslims, violence and destruction against the Monkhood, systematic censorship of all communications, extreme xenophobia,  little to no investment in Nationwide infrastructure for the benefit and advancement of the people; none of these things has happened in Thailand.  As I said before, to compare the two regimes is ridiculous.  

[Leaver]

15 hours ago, polpott said:

Actually, same as the zero baht tours, most of the money made in Shianokville went straight back to China.

 

True, but a lot of Chinese use Sihanoukville casinos as a way of getting their money out of China. 

 

The profits for such services are repatriated back to China, but many use the casinos there to convert their money in USD, in a foreign country, and from there, they can move their money any country in the world, out of the reach of "Big Brother."

 

You don't even have to gamble in the casino to avail yourself of this "tourism service."  

[Leaver]

9 hours ago, Pilotman said:

I didn't say that did I? 

 

So...................is that a yes, or no?

 

9 hours ago, Pilotman said:

In Myanmar, there has been violent suppression of the people by the Military

 

Thailand had a military coup.   Something like 90 Thai citizens shot and killed.   Sounds pretty violent to me.

 

9 hours ago, Pilotman said:

systematic censorship of all communications,

 

One gateway for the internet here.  This is designed so the Thai government can pull the plug at any time.

 

9 hours ago, Pilotman said:

extreme xenophobia,

 

Dirty foreigners spreading covid.   What more can be said about a comment like that, from a senior minister of the Thai government?

 

9 hours ago, Pilotman said:

little to no investment in Nationwide infrastructure for the benefit and advancement of the people;

 

The Thai government has invested in their family and friends getting contracts for such infrastructure projects, which are over inflated, and poorly constructed, thus lending themselves to further lucrative maintenance contracts well into the future.  This corruption scams every Thai tax payer.

 

9 hours ago, Pilotman said:

to compare the two regimes is ridiculous. 

 

Perhaps broaden your view, you may see it's not so ridiculous.