2 hours ago, Chiang Mai Bill said:

Only to poor third-world countries. Would thailand wish to state it was a poor third-world country? Loss of face?

 

Yes, the whole submarine and space program was incredibly poor time in trying to qualify as a poor country.

 

Fail.

14 hours ago, Petey11 said:

I was to believe the AstraZ was sold at cost price, no profit, so you cant get it much cheaper than that. 

AstraZ was the offer from India, wasn't it ?

10 hours ago, malibukid said:

long term

like a strategic three months plan?

9 minutes ago, KKr said:

AstraZ was the offer from India, wasn't it ?

Possibly, and that's why they rejected the offer as they wanted the technology themselves, but who truly knows.  This government is full of liars, especially Anutin, and Prayut.

 

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2021/02/01/officials-reject-claim-that-govt-turned-down-indian-vaccine-offer/

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/23278/rejection-of-indias-vaccine-offer-adds-to-mounting-concerns-about-thailands-vaccine-program/

5 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Possibly, and that's why they rejected the offer as they wanted the technology themselves, but who truly knows.  This government is full of liars, especially Anutin, and Prayut.

 

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2021/02/01/officials-reject-claim-that-govt-turned-down-indian-vaccine-offer/

 

https://www.thaienquirer.com/23278/rejection-of-indias-vaccine-offer-adds-to-mounting-concerns-about-thailands-vaccine-program/

Oh I see, seem to have missed the Kaosod article.
anyway, of course Local Production distributed for an administration charge or at cost would be better,
and, moreover, would gain wide support and further enhance goodwill.

“Acquiring the vaccines directly from the producers will be more flexible because we can decide how much we will buy and also negotiate pricing, which may lead to a cheaper price for large orders,” Nakorn said. 

 

let him get it from China on low cost credit....... they can pay back later when Xhina is ready to collect......

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Where on earth did you misread that? Its completely false, Oxford University contacted AstraZeneca to be their development and production partner with the caveat that it is to be not for profit for the entire pandemic, simple as that. 

 

WHO is not largely funded by vaccine companies. Why do you say that?

 

Main contributors: https://www.who.int/about/funding/contributors

Breakdown of all contributors include private companies, full disclosure of all contributions in drop down menu https://open.who.int/2018-19/contributors/contributor

No problem dishing out Bt13.5-billion for a Chinese submarine at the drop of a hat that does little to help the nation's citizens but penny pinching on the health and wellbeing of the its citizens undergoing COVID stress.

 

I think they need to get their priorities right on COVID vaccine procurement.  

 

But that's the Thais; every decision is financially based.

On 2/8/2021 at 1:00 PM, John Drake said:

 

Now, Thailand has put all its money on two vaccines. The Chinese vaccine is probably next to useless in any case. And now the AZ is useless against the South African variant. All because they didn't want Pfizer or Moderna to get in the way of deals with China.

It was more likely that the govt wanted to make a deal with AZ for exclusive market access for the anointed Thai company selected with zero transparency or selection process - 

Thailand can probably control Covid by keeping borders closed and test, trace and isolate any local infections which should be minimal. International Tourism is unlikely for many years. 

On 2/8/2021 at 9:26 AM, ThailandRyan said:

Hospitals were trying to obtain vaccines from outside the country themselves, and one hospital was trying to obtain the funds by pre-selling the vaccination before they were shut down.  Then the Government gave them the green light, but lets say, that's not happening yet.  So there is your answer Sandy, in a nutshell.

Private hospitals can import Covid vaccine: Thai FDA (nationthailand.com)

Since when did this statement mean the "green light" to import any vaccine. Pre-selling an unapproved vaccine is illegal.

 

"However, the vaccines must be approved and registered with the FDA, said its secretary-general Dr Paisan Dankhum."

 

One has to assume that you believe once a vaccine has been approved it is immediately available in unlimited quantity.

56 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Since when did this statement mean the "green light" to import any vaccine. Pre-selling an unapproved vaccine is illegal.

 

"However, the vaccines must be approved and registered with the FDA, said its secretary-general Dr Paisan Dankhum."

 

One has to assume that you believe once a vaccine has been approved it is immediately available in unlimited quantity.

Sandy the hospitals and Administrative organizations had been given the go ahead to obtain their own vaccines over a month ago, but suddenly today there has been a new development and the Government has cut them off from doing just that.  There is another OP up and running now indicating the following:

 

“In the first stage, only central government can purchase, manage and distribute the vaccines under the vaccine management plan, in order to distribute to the targeted group of people and be able to follow up on their symptoms after being injected,” the order stated.

“Consequently, at this stage, we do not permit private sector and local administrations to directly purchase the vaccine from the producers,” it added.

 

So there you go, only the Government itself will be purchasing the vaccines and arranging the vaccinations for now.  Seems that they want to control it 100% and were possibly afraid of being upstaged by some local entity that managed to get their hands on a vaccine that had been cleared prior to the Government.  The Thai FDA has already approved the AstraZenica Vaccine, and now an agreement has been made with the Chinese Vaccine Sinovac.  J&J in the works, as well as a few others.

On 2/8/2021 at 9:57 AM, tomauasia said:

... Thanathorn and all the other brave Thais march forward. ...

 

 

Thanathorn?

 

Are you talking about this excellent example of a neocon ? :

 

http://www.industriall-union.org/archive/imf/imf-condemns-labour-rights-violations-at-thai-summit-group-subsidiary

55 minutes ago, BernieOnTour said:

 

Thanathorn?

 

Are you talking about this excellent example of a neocon ? :

 

http://www.industriall-union.org/archive/imf/imf-condemns-labour-rights-violations-at-thai-summit-group-subsidiary

I would not even entertain you. Take some pom poms to government house and do a dance. They like pop stars. Should be good.

You know what you get when you buy cheap? What? Water down product....????????????????????????

16 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Sandy the hospitals and Administrative organizations had been given the go ahead to obtain their own vaccines over a month ago, but suddenly today there has been a new development and the Government has cut them off from doing just that.  There is another OP up and running now indicating the following:

 

“In the first stage, only central government can purchase, manage and distribute the vaccines under the vaccine management plan, in order to distribute to the targeted group of people and be able to follow up on their symptoms after being injected,” the order stated.

“Consequently, at this stage, we do not permit private sector and local administrations to directly purchase the vaccine from the producers,” it added.

 

So there you go, only the Government itself will be purchasing the vaccines and arranging the vaccinations for now.  Seems that they want to control it 100% and were possibly afraid of being upstaged by some local entity that managed to get their hands on a vaccine that had been cleared prior to the Government.  The Thai FDA has already approved the AstraZenica Vaccine, and now an agreement has been made with the Chinese Vaccine Sinovac.  J&J in the works, as well as a few others.

Why the pontification?

Just tell us which vaccines the private hospitals could have imported when given the so called "green light".

39 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Why the pontification?

Just tell us which vaccines the private hospitals could have imported when given the so called "green light".

Wow, did not know I was the Pope.  They had the ability to purchase the AZ Vaccine and then the Sinovac vaccine, well they did until the Government yesterday stopped all entities AO's, and Private Organizations from moving forward.  There, you happy now.