4 minutes ago, DavisH said:

Every person is isolated if found positive. Thais included. This is why there is much less community spread than the USA or Europe. This seems to work. Self isolation does not as people who feel well but are infected will not isolate. Thais included. 

Yet the Thais are not isolated with all of their uninfected counterparts, while all of the migrants are.  Can you see a difference.  Not being treated equal shows the issue of income disparity and the way Thai's treat themselves over all others.

3 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said:

I mean Thailand is not successful at controlling the flu.Just wait for the next flu pandemic and see what the world does to "control" it.Get ready for more economy destroying lockdowns in a few years just when you thought it was safe to go outside without a mask.Now we have the "protect the vulnerable" system in place I can't see us getting rid of it without a huge backflip.

Thailand has been successful. That's a fact. Only moaning farangs think otherwise. And the worst ones post in the Bangkok post. Thais read these comments also, and frankly some of you guys are a ducking disgrace. 

3 minutes ago, DavisH said:

Aussie would <deleted> and moan incessantly if hospitalised with no symptoms. They wouldn't even isolate at home. Many plan also not to vaccinate. Many think it's a scam. Hopefully Australians will get smashed with covid. Maybe they will wake up. 

So you believe everyone should be locked together, infected and uninfected, and left to obtain Covid one way or another, and to curtail any type of human rights because of emergency operations and the pandemic.  Glad you would feel comfortable being locked in with all your neighbors and kept for a month to see if herd immunity sets in.  Get real

7 minutes ago, DavisH said:

Every person is isolated if found positive. Thais included. This is why there is much less community spread than the USA or Europe. This seems to work. Self isolation does not as people who feel well but are infected will not isolate. Thais included. 

I think you missed the point of his post. The migrants are being isolated together, those that are healthy and those who are positive, working together, sleeping and eating together. With the stated aim that this group will then achieve herd immunity.

Chinese New Year comes and the virus goes. Very nice of the virus. 

I am not, and have never been, a Thai-basher. I live here because I love it & I genuinely love Thai people. Govts & militaries in almost every country are pigs at the public trough. The decisions they make are made for those who will keep them in power.

 

Unfortunately, they blew it in the second wave. Samut Sakhon should have been 100% locked down, Wuhan-style, from December 14. A lot of traders would already have carried Covid to the provinces but things would have been far more controllable IF New Year travel had been banned.

 

Now, they plan to make the same mistake over Chinese New Year. The scrambled eggs & Rolex boys think the rabbit will run back in his hole if they stop testing. Blundering dunderheads!

3 hours ago, from the home of CC said:

I read that also this afternoon. Waiting for 'herd immunity' without vaccination is somewhat the original plans of the US/UK which backfired miserably as the world knows. I certainly hope someone curtails this insanity but if true and that's their thinking, Buddha help us all...

There is quite a difference between allowing herd immunity to develop in a contained community of relatively fit young working individuals and trying the same approach in nations that includes a mobile community and millions of vulnerable citizens.

 

Most of the Covid cases found in Samut Sakhon have been asymptomatic or only suffering mild symptoms, so it stands to reason that any new casa will be much the same. It seems to me that establishing herd immunity amongst the Burmese community is the most economical and the probably the quickest method of allowing life to return to normal down there. And then they can all get back to work, which is what they came here to do.

 

5 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

Most of the Covid cases found in Samut Sakhon have been asymptomatic or only suffering mild symptoms, so it stands to reason that any new casa will be much the same. It seems to me that establishing herd immunity amongst the Burmese community is the most economical and the probably the quickest method of allowing life to return to normal down there. And then they can all get back to work, which is what they came here to do.

 

Its is now estimated that only around 1 in 3 covid positive people are truly asymptomatic, this is widely reported everywhere now, so most will indeed have symptoms. 

 

Letting people become infected deliberately with no choice in the matter because they are locked in, is criminal, no other words to describe it.

 

But hey, they're only low status migrants who cares about their human rights when you have the economy to think about.

 

"Aung Moe works in Mahachai, a district known for its seafood industry. He and his 30-year-old wife and nine-month-old daughter have all been diagnosed with Covid-19. His wife became the first in the family to be admitted to Samut Sakhon Hospital with the disease. Their daughter, who became seriously ill on January 1, was tested for the virus and taken to the hospital five days later."

 

 

https://www.myanmar-now.org/en/news/myanmar-migrants-struggle-as-second-wave-of-covid-19-hits-thailand

 

 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Its is now estimated that only around 1 in 3 covid positive people are truly asymptomatic, this is widely reported everywhere now, so most will indeed have symptoms. 

 

Letting people become infected deliberately with no choice in the matter because they are locked in, is criminal, no other words to describe it.

 

But hey, they're only low status migrants who cares about their human rights when you have the economy to think about.

 

"Aung Moe works in Mahachai, a district known for its seafood industry. He and his 30-year-old wife and nine-month-old daughter have all been diagnosed with Covid-19. His wife became the first in the family to be admitted to Samut Sakhon Hospital with the disease. Their daughter, who became seriously ill on January 1, was tested for the virus and taken to the hospital five days later."

 

 

https://www.myanmar-now.org/en/news/myanmar-migrants-struggle-as-second-wave-of-covid-19-hits-thailand

 

 

 

 

 

Criminal actions by this Government know no bounds and human rights violations are the norm as they could care less about anyone other than themselves. Yes a complex run on sentence.

2 hours ago, DavisH said:

Every person is isolated if found positive. Thais included. This is why there is much less community spread than the USA or Europe. This seems to work. Self isolation does not as people who feel well but are infected will not isolate. Thais included. 

If you read the article it says the infected are not isolated from those that are not infected and that they are letting the uninfected become infected until herd immunity is reached.They are all stuck inside the factories together.At least that's what the article says, unless you have access to what's going on inside these factories you are just guessing.

58 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

There is quite a difference between allowing herd immunity to develop in a contained community of relatively fit young working individuals and trying the same approach in nations that includes a mobile community and millions of vulnerable citizens.

 

Most of the Covid cases found in Samut Sakhon have been asymptomatic or only suffering mild symptoms, so it stands to reason that any new casa will be much the same. It seems to me that establishing herd immunity amongst the Burmese community is the most economical and the probably the quickest method of allowing life to return to normal down there. And then they can all get back to work, which is what they came here to do.

 

Do any of the 7000 migrant workers who tested positive have underlying health conditions that makes them vulnerable?So if any of these workers in this "let it rip" approach that you're in favour of dies then that's ok as long as people can get back to work quickly.If that's now the best way forward why do any lockdowns and why not just let it rip throughout the whole community so the whole country can get back to normal as quickly and economically as possible?After all the old and vulnerable aren't really worth the effort are they?They are just lowly migrant slaves are they not?So for you it's about the money is it?

10 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Looks like they stopped reporting the walk-ins. However, reading another paper, I see that another staff member at Chulalongkorn University has tested positive during active testing.  First I have heard they had been finding staff infected there or that they were doing tracing and tracking as well as active testing.

No they didn't but don't let that stop your daily comment:

Update on Wednesday: 144 local cases.

 

106 proactive case:

 

Samut Songkhram 2

 

Samut Sakhon 104

 

38 “walk-in” hospital cases:

 

Bangkok 8

 

Samut Songkhram 1

 

Maha Sarakham 1

 

Samut Sakhon 28

On 2/10/2021 at 5:11 PM, ThailandRyan said:

Yes maybe a little over the top, but I am downright incensed as to the way these folks are being treated.  Imagine if they tried to keep all expats locked inside of their homes, villages, or condos.  If they are not positive for Covid in anyway then they should not be thrown in together, and only those should be allowed to continue working while those who have the virus are treated or wait out the time frame until they test negative.  Are they treating the staff at Chulalongkorn University the same way as the migrants?  No they are not.  Treat everyone the same, just like you pointed out that Australia is, and I would find no issues as it would be done evenly and across the board.

I understand your concern about the human rights issue. I just don't think a Burmese migrant really gives a **** about Thailand's ( nor it's health issues ) other than the paycheck it offers them. Therefore if not 'contained' some would ignore warnings/mitigations and just do what they wanted to do - similar to the experiences the Australians faced when first setting up their quarantines. Just like the 25% of the citizens of the US/UK did when told to distance and wear a mask - they ignored it and spread the pox till the grave yards filled. And these were 'some what' educated. The majority of these Burmese are not educated a tenth by comparison and imo would cause Thailand a lot more misery - if it's not too late now even. If this blew up like the US/UK you just might find yourself isolated in your condo so you should be glad the authorities are trying hard not to make the same mistakes as the west..