Thailand reports 250 new COVID-19 cases

[DjSilver]

250 is so low. Nothing to be concern about. And still, I'm not worried about covid-19. I take the bus every day, go to work, to to the gym and also eat out. And I never use a mask and also I will not but my self in danger and get any of these uncertain vaccines.

[superal]

Not taking any sides here but just facts such as the lack of daily reporting on covid stats ( as is done by many western countries ) by the Thai government and searching for reliable stats is not easy .   

I believe that the Thai climate and strong sun/ ultraviolet rays are Thailand's saviour .

[Excel]

Just now, DjSilver said:

250 is so low. Nothing to be concern about. And still, I'm not worried about covid-19. I take the bus every day, go to work, to to the gym and also eat out. And I never use a mask and also I will not but my self in danger and get any of these uncertain vaccines.

Consider your logic here. Taking the bus is probably exposing yourself to a greater risk of harm due to road accidents but lets face it without the delusional people like yourself  Brazil, US and other countries would not have hd such a high level of contagion. You may well be asymptomatic so your thoughtless behaviour could potentially be passing the disease on to those in the high risk category on your bus or at work - irresponsible and thoughtless behaviour.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

A relatively rare report of local CV test results and their positivity rate. And the news isn't good, since it shows a 10% positivity rate, albeit in an area (Thong Lor) with a previously identified cluster outbreak.

 

"Proactive screening was conducted in Thong Lo, Watthana district, in the past three days. Officials screened 1,177 people working in entertainment venues in Thong Lo, and found 118 new positive cases, while others were negative cases or awaiting results. Previously, 45 positive cases were reported in the area.

 

Today, the BMA's Department of Health has set up a vaccination site at the Public Health Service Center 21 in That Thong temple. The department is to provide COVID-19 vaccinations to 300 people, who were in close contact with those in entertainment venues. The vaccination site will then move to Saeng Thip Sports Ground in Soi Pridi Banomyong 2 for three days, with officials planning to vaccinate 600 people a day."

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10157931164692050

 

 

 

Edited April 6, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[rabas]

11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The experts seem to be of the opinion we've already started the 3 wave.

 

Thailand is entering the third wave of COVID-19 infections, with the disease spreading widely: Professor Dr. Thiravat Hemachudha, head of the Center for Emerging Disease Health Sciences, Faculty of Medicine, Chulalongkorn University

 

https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thailand-entering-third-wave-of-covid-19-infections-dr-thiravat-hemachudha/

 

Agree, Bangkok is headed for a big surge and hope they clamp down sooner and harder.  I became suspicious  2 weeks ago when three SCB branches along Chaengwattana road where I live were closed because employees tested positive. One was Big C near immigration, one was in IT square, the third a bit farther out.

 

I 've since cracked down at home but most of my family is already quite diligent. Most Thai have common sense.

[FarFlungFalang]

29 minutes ago, superal said:

Not taking any sides here but just facts such as the lack of daily reporting on covid stats ( as is done by many western countries ) by the Thai government and searching for reliable stats is not easy .   

I believe that the Thai climate and strong sun/ ultraviolet rays are Thailand's saviour .

Brazil also gets lots of sun/ultraviolet rays and also benefits greatly from this theory.Next please.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

35 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

A relatively rare report of local CV test results and their positivity rate. And the news isn't good, since it shows a 10% positivity rate, albeit in an area (Thong Lor) with a previously identified cluster outbreak.

 

"Proactive screening was conducted in Thong Lo, Watthana district, in the past three days. Officials screened 1,177 people working in entertainment venues in Thong Lo, and found 118 new positive cases, while others were negative cases or awaiting results. Previously, 45 positive cases were reported in the area.

 

Today, the BMA's Department of Health has set up a vaccination site at the Public Health Service Center 21 in That Thong temple. The department is to provide COVID-19 vaccinations to 300 people, who were in close contact with those in entertainment venues. The vaccination site will then move to Saeng Thip Sports Ground in Soi Pridi Banomyong 2 for three days, with officials planning to vaccinate 600 people a day."

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10157931164692050

 

 

 

Interesting... another similar report and testing positivity rate pops up in the news just now from elsewhere in BKK:

 

"He cited the drive-through COVID-19 screening, being conducted by the Ramkhamhaeng Hospital since April 1st, which shows that about 9% of those tested were infected, adding that most of the infected had visited entertainment venues."

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1212823-thailand-entering-third-wave-of-covid-19-infections-%E2%80%93-dr-thiravat-hemachudha/

 

[stubuzz]

42 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Today, the BMA's Department of Health has set up a vaccination site at the Public Health Service Center 21 in That Thong temple. The department is to provide COVID-19 vaccinations to 300 people, who were in close contact with those in entertainment venues.

The vaccine is not a reactive cure.

[vandeventer]

These major vaccines are coming very slow to a lot of countries around the world. I am just wondering if some countries are sitting on them for unknown reasons. I wish there was a way to find out so they could be exposed.

[ThailandRyan]

11 minutes ago, stubuzz said:

The vaccine is not a reactive cure.

They believe it can be and are using it to try and stop the spread. However it takes two jabs and several weeks to start to build any immunities, so there is a gap in their philosophical reasoning you could drive a semi truck called Covid thru.

[ThailandRyan]

3 minutes ago, vandeventer said:

These major vaccines are coming very slow to a lot of countries around the world. I am just wondering if some countries are sitting on them for unknown reasons. I wish there was a way to find out so they could be exposed.

It's all about the Benjamin's.  You have to wonder what variants of Covid these new cases are from.  No genomic testing being discussed or put forth to be transparent.

[BKKBike09]

11 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

 

Interesting... another similar report and testing positivity rate pops up in the news just now from elsewhere in BKK:

 

"He cited the drive-through COVID-19 screening, being conducted by the Ramkhamhaeng Hospital since April 1st, which shows that about 9% of those tested were infected, adding that most of the infected had visited entertainment venues."

 

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1212823-thailand-entering-third-wave-of-covid-19-infections-%E2%80%93-dr-thiravat-hemachudha/

 

 

Yes, but "about 9% of those tested were infected" may be highly significant if it is 'about 9%' of, say 375 people tested. However if it is 'about 9%' of 30 people tested, and the (say three) infected were all members of the same family, it may be of little signifcance. Too many statistics bandied around without adequate supporting data. 

 

Meanwhile in UK the government is now urging everyone to get into a routine of sticking a swab into your mouth and then up your nose twice a week and then sitting around at home for 30 minutes to see if you're a danger to society.

 

There is of course a debate as to the efficacy of Lateral Flow tests and their ability to detect positive cases in the asymptomatic. False positives may be rare (>0.1%) but when you test millions, that means thousands of false negatives. So infection rates potentially never drop below a level of several thousand, leading to renewed calls for restriction to be kept in place. 

 

Interesting article on LF testing on the BMJ blog, from which comes this snippet: 

 

"In the face of so much potential for harm and so little evidence of benefit, why is the government pushing the rollout? It seems at least plausible that this is because hundreds of millions of Innova testing kits were purchased before it was known how they would perform in people without symptoms and when administered by less than expert hands. These tests are now sitting in warehouses around the country. The message has gone out that “they have to be used,” or “as long as testing detects otherwise unknown cases, the whole exercise will be worthwhile.” Perhaps rather than potentially fuelling the UK’s outbreak, the warehoused kits could be donated to a country without PCR testing capacity that could use them in line with manufacturer’s instructions." 

https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/01/12/covid-19-government-must-urgently-rethink-lateral-flow-test-roll-out/

 

Maybe they can send some kits to Thailand because for sure there's minimal testing here.

 

 

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

3 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

They believe it can be and are using it to try and stop the spread. However it takes two jabs and several weeks to start to build any immunities, so there is a gap in their philosophical reasoning you could drive a semi truck called Covid thru.

 

I don't know about the Chinese vaccine that they're probably using in these instances. But in general, AFAIK with at least the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, the recent research seems to be showing a pretty quick immune response post injection.

 

The immunity seems to build/grow with time with the two-shot vaccines. But the response seems to begin relatively soon after the first shot... not enough to provide full protection, but at least some levels of prevention.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

8 minutes ago, BKKBike09 said:

Yes, but "about 9% of those tested were infected" may be highly significant if it is 'about 9%' of, say 375 people tested. However if it is 'about 9%' of 30 people tested, and the (say three) infected were all members of the same family, it may be of little signifcance. Too many statistics bandied around without adequate supporting data. 

 

The other testing results with a 10 percent positivity rate that I quoted above involved 1177 entertainment workers in the Thong Lo area tested over the past couple days.

 

So it was a good-sized sample, and it was all employee-based, so they weren't pulling in familial spouses and children, as per your comment above.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

15 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

They believe it can be and are using it to try and stop the spread. However it takes two jabs and several weeks to start to build any immunities, so there is a gap in their philosophical reasoning you could drive a semi truck called Covid thru.

 

The other factor that may come into play in the govt's thinking to vaccinate those Thong Lo area entertainment venue workers is.... remember... the government just ordered many or all of those BKK places closed for the next two weeks...

 

So, it may be some days/weeks before a lot of those Thai workers are back at work, meaning the vaccine hopefully would have the time and chance to do its stuff, by the time their places of work are reopened.

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

And it does seem that they're mainly using the Chinese Sinovac vaccine for the limited community vaccinations that are occurring:

 

"The Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) has urged people who have received the first dose of COVID-19 vaccine to take the second dose as scheduled.

 

BMA’s deputy permanent secretary Chawin Sirinak said people who got vaccinated with Sinovac vaccine from March 17-19 in Bang Khae district and from March 20-22 in Phasi Charoen district would need to get their second jab from April 7 to 12.

 

He said the vaccination unit will open at Nimma Noradee Temple on those dates from 8am to 4pm, and those coming to receive the second dose must present their ID card or other similar document to identify themselves."

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10157931098422050

 

 

[LosLobo]

 

Coronavirus Update (Live): 132,481,635 Cases and 2,875,670 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer (worldometers.info)

 

 

Thailand now beats Australia on the COVID-19 leaderboard!

 

What I find odd is that Thailand has only 10% of the deaths that Australia has.

 

I wonder if there is a logical explanation?

 

Also Thailand has only done 20% of the testing.

 

As Trump said " The only reason US has more cases than the rest of the world is that the US has done more testing" ????

 

I wonder if Thailand will be welcomed to join the Aust/NZ/Singapore travel bubble.

Edited April 6, 2021 by LosLobo

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

5 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

 

Coronavirus Update (Live): 132,481,635 Cases and 2,875,670 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer (worldometers.info)

 

 

Thailand now beats Australia on the COVID-19 leaderboard!

 

What I find odd is that Thailand has only 10% of the deaths that Australia has.

 

I wonder if there is a logical explanation?

 

Also Thailand has only done testing 20% of the testing.

 

As Trump said " The only reason US has more cases than the rest of the world is that the US has done more testing" ????

 

I wonder if Thailand will be welcomed to join the Aust/NZ/Singapore travel bubble.

 

You gotta be careful with interpreting statistics, of course. Thailand now has more overall reported cases according to that data, but Australia has nearly three times the per capita rate of cases. And Australia also has double the raw volume of testing compared to Thailand, and 5 times the per capita rate of testing.  Seems hard to draw many comparative conclusions under those circumstances.

 

[FarFlungFalang]

1 hour ago, vandeventer said:

These major vaccines are coming very slow to a lot of countries around the world. I am just wondering if some countries are sitting on them for unknown reasons. I wish there was a way to find out so they could be exposed.

The vaccines aren't stupid they gravitate to where the money is, they're a bit like people in that way.Follow the money, big pharma do it for profit so they go for the money.

[superal]

1 hour ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Brazil also gets lots of sun/ultraviolet rays and also benefits greatly from this theory.Next please.

Developed by scientists in Canada, the UV (ultraviolet) Index is an assessment of a location or time period's ultraviolet radiation exposure. Thailand's UV Index rating has consistently averaged 11-12 for the past 8-9 years, meaning the levels of ultraviolet radiation in the kingdom are categorized as extremely high. 

In Brazil São Paulo or Itajubá are perceived as places where the risk to the sun overexposure is relatively low .      

Next please 

[ThailandRyan]

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

I don't know about the Chinese vaccine that they're probably using in these instances. But in general, AFAIK with at least the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, the recent research seems to be showing a pretty quick immune response post injection.

 

The immunity seems to build/grow with time with the two-shot vaccines. But the response seems to begin relatively soon after the first shot... not enough to provide full protection, but at least some levels of prevention.

 

However, they are only using the AZ vaccine and Sinovac, which leave it as unknown as far as how long it takes to build up the immunity.

[ThailandRyan]

33 minutes ago, superal said:

Developed by scientists in Canada, the UV (ultraviolet) Index is an assessment of a location or time period's ultraviolet radiation exposure. Thailand's UV Index rating has consistently averaged 11-12 for the past 8-9 years, meaning the levels of ultraviolet radiation in the kingdom are categorized as extremely high. 

In Brazil São Paulo or Itajubá are perceived as places where the risk to the sun overexposure is relatively low .      

Next please 

What does UV radiation have to do with Covid. The study done shows only a specific wavelength of UV disinfects Covid-19.  Are you saying that Thailand has that specific uv wavelength.

 

https://news.osu.edu/uv-radiation-kills-virus-that-causes-covid-19-in-lab-study-finds/

Edited April 6, 2021 by ThailandRyan

[Russell17au]

1 hour ago, FarFlungFalang said:

The vaccines aren't stupid they gravitate to where the money is, they're a bit like people in that way.Follow the money, big pharma do it for profit so they go for the money.

The EU stopped a shipment of AZ going to Australia because they wanted it to stay in the EU for the people there and did not give a s**t about the Australian order so how many other countries did the EU do this to? How safe is the AZ vaccine since it has shown that some people have developed blood clots just after they received their AZ vaccination.

[FarFlungFalang]

57 minutes ago, superal said:

Developed by scientists in Canada, the UV (ultraviolet) Index is an assessment of a location or time period's ultraviolet radiation exposure. Thailand's UV Index rating has consistently averaged 11-12 for the past 8-9 years, meaning the levels of ultraviolet radiation in the kingdom are categorized as extremely high. 

In Brazil São Paulo or Itajubá are perceived as places where the risk to the sun overexposure is relatively low .      

Next please 

I don't know but the following quote from the link below tends to disagree with the perception of a significant difference between Sao Paulo and Thailand.Next Please.

 

UV index

January through March, November and December, with an average maximum UV index of 12, are months with the highest UV index in São Paulo. A UV Index reading of 11, and higher, represents an excessive health risk from unsafe exposure to the UV radiation for ordinary individuals.
Note: In March, the average maximum UV index of 12 translate into the following recommendations:
Practice all essential precautions. Protection against sun damage is crucial. Seek shade and minimize exposure to direct Sun in a period between 10 a.m. and 4 p.m. when UV radiation is most intense; keep in mind that shade structures like parasols or canopies do not provide perfect sun protection. A wide-brim hat offers excellent sun protection for eyes, ears, face, and neck. Sunglasses with UVA and UVB protection significantly reduce eye damage from sun exposure. Tightly woven, loose-fitting clothes provide additional protection from the Sun. Prolonged stay under the direct sun should be avoided as much as possible, especially if a person burns easily. Sunscreen with a minimum 30 sun protection factor should always be used.

 

https://www.weather-atlas.com/en/brazil/sao-paulo-weather-march

[rabas]

42 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

What does UV radiation have to do with Covid. The study done shows only a specific wavelength of UV disinfects Covid-19.  Are you saying that Thailand has that specific uv wavelength.

 

https://news.osu.edu/uv-radiation-kills-virus-that-causes-covid-19-in-lab-study-finds/

No, not even close. The article is about deep UVC, which can't reach Earth.  Summary of deep UVC:

 

"UVC rays harm all forms of life, including the coronavirus." here

 

Also, ordinary sunlight cannot kill coronavirus simply from exposure.

https://www.aad.org/public/diseases/coronavirus/can-sunlight-kill-coronavirus

[ThailandRyan]

1 minute ago, rabas said:

No, not even close. The article is about deep UVC, which can't reach Earth.  Summary of deep UVC:

 

"UVC rays harm all forms of life, including the coronavirus." here

 

Also, ordinary sunlight cannot kill coronavirus simply from exposure.

https://www.aad.org/public/diseases/coronavirus/can-sunlight-kill-coronavirus

So the poster was posting fiction.  Sounds right Rabas, the study I linked has not even been peer reviewed yet and only dealt with disinfection 

[Bkk Brian]

Enjoy your Songkran tucked up safely at home, not sure you'll be missed much. The education system cant get any worse than it already is.

 

Education Minister Treenuch Thienthong has isolated herself for 14 days after learning on Tuesday that one of the guests who visited her home on Sunday had tested positive for Covid-19.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30404591

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30404578

 

The gift that keeps on giving...from Bangkok to Chonburi.

 

"Authorities in Chonburi announced that 18 patients found recently related to Krystal Club in Bangkok’s Thong Lor area.

 

The 18 cluster cases comprised 14 Thais and four Japanese."

 

I think the way the TH govt does their counting, those mentioned cases will end up getting tallied in the Chonburi province column, even though the actual exposure apparently occurred in Bangkok.

 

Meanwhile, there was talk in the Thai news media over the weekend that some TH government ministers may have had contact with the Japanese Ambassador who was just lately confirmed as a CV case and hospitalized. And some of the TH govt folks were getting tested and/or insisting they were fine. I'm not clear on how/where that has ended up... in terms of the TH ministers.

 

 

Edited April 6, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[unblocktheplanet]

SHUT DOWN SONGKRAN & ALL INTERPROVINCIAL TRAVEL!

 

(Sometimes need to SHOUT! so the idiots might listen.)

[FarFlungFalang]

35 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The education system cant get any worse than it already is.

As long as they don't keep trying to improve it otherwise you might see how bad it can get.