A shot in the arm: foreign residents and their eligibility for a jab

[new2here]

I think sometimes it’s less about the “message” per se, but more to do with the how and when that message is delivered.

 

In this case- the whole uproar over the “Thais get first priority” matter… I think (my opinion only) that HAD it been said more like “We will of course give priority to the most vulnerable citizens, we recognize that everyone; citizens and non-citizens, will be eligible in phases” 

 

I think had they not used such … hard …. language, it might have played out better ….

 

but.. that too… i recognize that the ministry of health, like all ministries, is a governmental agency, and as such is ultimately beholden to the voting citizens — so a lot of times, the message will be packaged if you will, for a “domestic” audience- not expatriate.

 

I read the report - but cede that i wasn’t there to hear it delivered or ask clarifying questions - and from a non-citizen basis, you bet, it comes off as very anti-foreigner… but again, i suspect it was a comment directed more to a domestic audience and made without the benefit of perhaps a more ‘nuanced ’ delivery. 

Edited May 6, 2021 by new2here

[Orinoco]

46 minutes ago, Zack61 said:

She loves me. She loves me not. She loves me. She.................

 

No doubt in a few years it will be all very clear ..... or not. 

it will all be just a big misunderstanding, in the end

TIT.

 

 

Edited May 6, 2021 by Orinoco

[Dmaxdan]

I think the problem with Thailand is that the government has a nasty habit of pandering to the whim of the netizens and then back tracking on their decisions.

 

Most of the world is vaccinating those within certain age groups no matter where they originally hail from.

 

But here, as soon as many locals learn that expats over 60 will be prioritized for vaccinations over actual Thai people under 60 there is likely to be a lot of toys being thrown from prams.

This petulant, selfish behavior is common place here among the masses, particularly if they don't get what they want.

This almost always causes the government to rethink their decisions.

 

Too many local people here live in the Thailand bubble and haven't a clue what is going on in the rest of the world.

 

 

 

[jesimps]

4 hours ago, daveAustin said:

aka, if you don't like it go home lol

Surprised none of the usual culprits on here haven't yet offered that advice.

 

[henry213]

3 minutes ago, Dmaxdan said:

 

 

Too many local people here live in the Thailand bubble and haven't a clue what is going on in the rest of the world.

 

 

 

So true

Edited May 6, 2021 by henry213

[Neal182]

https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/australian-embassy-snubs-aussie-expats-but-australia-donates-68-million-baht-for-thailands-vaccine-efforts.                 

[jesimps]

48 minutes ago, Brierley said:

It's not their job to look after the health of their citizens overseas, they're not missionaries.

Seems like it's their job to do beggar-all for their citizens abroad, missionaries or not.

[hotchilli]

The UK should send a strong letter to the Thai government.

Tell them to start treating UK people residing in the country with respect & compassion.

Start by including them in the vaccine programme as equals.

Or UK will ask Thailand to start repatriating every Thai in the UK back to Thailand to get their jabs.

[Brierley]

1 minute ago, jesimps said:

Seems like it's their job to do beggar-all for their citizens abroad, missionaries or not.

They are trade missions primarily. Plus they will give you a list of lawyers when you get into trouble, notarize your documents for a hefty fee and give you a replacement travel document when you lose your passport....that's it.

[henry213]

22 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

You sure about that...???????? 128,000 deaths...???????? 303? (https://g.co/kgs/R1X57y)

 

If Thailand wasn't for you that's fine...but don't say it has anything to do with Covid, which wasn't even a thing when you left. It has been objectively worse for people in the UK than Thailand.

 

And if the UK was such a great choice (assuming you have a very fulfilling life there), why do you still follow and post on a Thailand focused internet forum?

Dumb reply when you look at it, yours PS 

Edited May 6, 2021 by henry213

[hotchilli]

54 minutes ago, Brierley said:

It's not their job to look after the health of their citizens overseas, they're not missionaries.

The UK embassy in Thailand is nothing does nothing and cares even less.

[noosard]

  22 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

You sure about that... 128,000 deaths... 303? (https://g.co/kgs/R1X57y)

 

If Thailand wasn't for you that's fine...but don't say it has anything to do with Covid, which wasn't even a thing when you left. It has been objectively worse for people in the UK than Thailand.

 

And if the UK was such a great choice (assuming you have a very fulfilling life there), why do you still follow and post on a Thailand focused internet forum?

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Dumb reply when you look at it

 

No pretty accurate

Expats will get vaccinated and it will be free

just wait your turn

[jonclark]

58 minutes ago, ikke1959 said:

Let gthe Embassies in Thailand vaccinate the people of    their country.. how difficult can that be?

 

Actually very easy. But it's not an embassies job to provide medical care to its citizens in a foreign country. That is the job of the health system to provide medical care. 

[henry213]

1 minute ago, hotchilli said:

The UK embassy in Thailand is nothing does nothing and cares even less.

Thailand should care as our countries care for whoevers in it, Thai's included

[Jeffr2]

52 minutes ago, Billpro785 said:

Flew back to the states and got mine. an month ago. All I  Needed was a negative Covid test. Now in Bangkok doing the 7 day quarantine . 

Lucky you.  It's back to a 14 day quarantine.  A huge difference.

[sathornlover]

1 hour ago, ikke1959 said:

Let gthe Embassies in Thailand vaccinate the people of    their country.. how difficult can that be?

The embassies could at least insist that their citizens are treated equally in the pandemic and especially that the vulnerable groups are also prioritised instead of discriminated against, which is against any international practice.

 

I will make appropriate requests to my embassy, WHO, AstraZeneca and report on the current situation in Thailand to appropriate press organs ...

It may not change the situation but it should not be silenced either!

 

[bougnat]

We are only tolerated here, and obviously less and less ...

[Jeffr2]

3 minutes ago, sathornlover said:

The embassies could at least insist that their citizens are treated equally in the pandemic and especially that the vulnerable groups are also prioritised instead of discriminated against, which is against any international practice.

 

I will make appropriate requests to my embassy, WHO, AstraZeneca and report on the current situation in Thailand to appropriate press organs ...

It may not change the situation but it should not be silenced either!

 

Guaranteed the various ambassadors are doing all they can to make sure their citizens are vaccinated.  But since Thais are barely getting jabs, not sure there's much they can do.  And as noted above, embassy facilities are not equipped to be doing vaccinations.  Impossible. 

 

We'll just have to wait.  Or, go home for the jab.  Which isn't a bad option.  Especially if you want one of the better jabs.  Pfizer, Moderna or J&J.

[Satyrman]

Who would want a jab in the arm of an experimental vaccine that was made in China and is less than 50% effective? Go ahead and take that Sin-o-vac shot, you can have mine too!

[pjuk]

1 hour ago, TheFishman1 said:

Thailand is a very confusing place T 1T

I love it.

Give me the the chaos of Thailand any time compared to the regimented, regulated, politicly correct BS that my homeland offers.

 

[Jeffr2]

3 minutes ago, Satyrman said:

Who would want a jab in the arm of an experimental vaccine that was made in China and is less than 50% effective? Go ahead and take that Sin-o-vac shot, you can have mine too!

Over 60's will get the AZ jab.  And starting in June, there will be millions of doses of AZ released.  Should be easier to get than the Chinese one.  Which so far, has proven to be as safe as any of the others.  All of which are approved under emergency orders.  Luckily, a few should be getting full FDA approval in about a month or so.

[Bangkok Barry]

1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

But the people have the government they deserve, and probably deep down, want?

 

They had the government they wanted but it was stolen from them. Because THEY weren't the people that mattered to the elite.

[Dialemco]

We are all in this together if vaccines available everyone should be offered it. Until everyone vaccinated Covid will carry on mutating and infecting whether Thai or Farang. So much time has been lost the vaccines should have been ordered months ago. If you can go home for the vaccine do so but forget about returning to Thailand 

[Keesters]

40 minutes ago, MrMo said:

Like a number of other words in the English language I could mention, I have seen little evidence that there could be a word or phrase in the Thai language that would translate to co-ordination.

 

[sathornlover]

15 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

We'll just have to wait.  Or, go home for the jab.  Which isn't a bad option.  Especially if you want one of the better jabs.  Pfizer, Moderna or J&J.

Many have strong ties to Thailand perhaps more than to their country of origin. Many have family ties and do not want to leave them behind in this uncertain time.
And we are talking about the elderly and people with risky diseases where such a risky trip is not really a good option at this time …

 

[JRG23]

Britons living overseas should obtain the vaccine in their country of residence. They cannot arrange a vaccine in the UK from overseas.

https://www.william-russell.com/blog/getting-a-covid-vaccine-as-an-expat/#:~:text=Anyone who is returning to,in the UK from overseas.

[Jeffr2]

1 minute ago, sathornlover said:

Many have strong ties to Thailand perhaps more than to their country of origin. Many have family ties and do not want to leave them behind in this uncertain time.
And we are talking about the elderly and people with risky diseases where such a risky trip is not really a good option at this time …

 

Well put.  I have no family ties back in the US.  I'd have to do an Air B&B if I went....for at least a month.  Which would be expensive.  And for sure, the thought about getting there is a bit scary.  Public transport to/from the airports, being in a crowded plane or terminal...ugh...

[TKDfella]

4 hours ago, daveAustin said:

aka, if you don't like it go home lol

Yep, my immediate thoughts too.

[inThailand]

1 hour ago, smudger1951 said:

Yes, I'm back in the UK since 2019 after ten years. On days like this I know it was the right thing to do. The soi dogs will get the jab before the farangs and then get accused of spreading the virus.

Don't forget we come after the Buffalos as well. 

[bstafford214]

4 hours ago, daveAustin said:

aka, if you don't like it go home lol

I would love to, but I am not allowed back into my country, I am banned for now. 

Thailand is the problem and always will be. I really don't see a solution for foreigners

until end of year.

 

As soon as I am allowed to go home I will and never to return to this backward military style 3rd world country and I am not alone with these thoughts.

Edited May 6, 2021 by bstafford214