The true picture is not clear yet.

In the absence of direct testing and comprehensive patient tracking, the best index is "excess deaths" and even then it is necessary to compensate for lower deaths due to lockdown -- for instance, death from regular flu, death from air pollution, deaths from road traffic reduction -- or higher deaths due to lockdown -- for instance, suicides.

 

This is a task for epidemiologists.

Looks like the vaccination of educational personnel is going ahead this month. And it includes foreigners. I’ve just filled out this survey form by the Samut Prakan Provincial Public Health Office. They will send me an SMS once my appointment has been booked #Thailand

 

Further reading

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1392840653554413573

 

2 hours ago, Rhacsyn said:

Hi TallGuyJohn

 

I have tried scanning back through the pages to find the daily numbers per province. There are so many pages today! Could you (or somebody else) possibly send me the link or the data please. I have been compiling a daily chart for myself.

 

Thanks

 

Sorry, I didn't have a chance to post those for Thursday....

 

But the EN reports of today's province by province case counts are here...

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/photos

 

1 minute ago, anchadian said:

Looks like the vaccination of educational personnel is going ahead this month. And it includes foreigners. I’ve just filled out this survey form by the Samut Prakan Provincial Public Health Office. They will send me an SMS once my appointment has been booked #Thailand

 

Further reading

https://twitter.com/RichardBarrow/status/1392840653554413573

 

Excellent news for the International teachers who must have been wondering about this

36 minutes ago, Spock said:

Actually, I think Thai authorities and population generally could very easily ignore the plight of prisoners. Prisoners are the lowest of the low in Thailand. Only the families of prisoners have any concern for their welfare.

Which differs from most of the rest of the world how?

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1392843467273867268

 

Good news. The Facebook page ‘CityLife ChiangMai’ has just posted to say that the Governor of Chiang Mai is offering free vaccination to all foreigners in June. It doesn’t say which vaccine but it will most likely be AstraZeneca which is being rolled out next month #Thailand

 

52 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

 

I think your comment is too sweeping.

 

I believe that you have to look at this from a regional perspective.

 

Take out Bangkok and most regions are reporting a tapering off of the post-Songkran surge that everyone expected.

I take your point, but how can you take Bangkok out of the equation? It’s the capital city and home to 10-12 million people, depending on what you deem to be bangkok. It’s kinda hard to ignore.

1 minute ago, anchadian said:

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1392843467273867268

 

Good news. The Facebook page ‘CityLife ChiangMai’ has just posted to say that the Governor of Chiang Mai is offering free vaccination to all foreigners in June. It doesn’t say which vaccine but it will most likely be AstraZeneca which is being rolled out next month #Thailand

 

That's nice. Let's hope he does not get overruled by the other powers to be.

6 minutes ago, anchadian said:

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1392843467273867268

 

Good news. The Facebook page ‘CityLife ChiangMai’ has just posted to say that the Governor of Chiang Mai is offering free vaccination to all foreigners in June. It doesn’t say which vaccine but it will most likely be AstraZeneca which is being rolled out next month #Thailand

 

Interestingly, this afternoon I had a call from the private hospital I use for an annual check up.

 

the woman asked if I wanted to register for a “astra Zeneca from the government” in June. I said yes, upon which she asked if I had a pink card, which I do.

 

I asked her if my thai wife could also register . She messaged back later to say no, my wife is only 53 and so she would be in the second round in July.

 

it seems there has been a u turn vis a vis vaccinating only Thais at first.

1 hour ago, hotandsticky said:

I cannot see any logic, anywhere in the world, in incarcerating asymptomatic people. 

To stop them spreading the virus????

6 hours ago, anchadian said:

We're getting closer.  Start of the 3rd wave to today, but again, why is nearly 3,000 being reported only today?

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1392757306236956673

 

In a new press release, the Corrections Department has clarified that the number of infected people in prison reported yesterday (Bangkok Remand Prison 1,794 cases & Central Women's Correctional Institution 1,039 cases) was the total since the start of the new outbreak in April.

 

 

 

 

For those who missed this earlier, the Corrections Department clarified during the course of the day that today's load of newly reported prison COVID cases is based on inmate testing dating back to the beginning of April -- and just not publicly reported until yesterday and then added to the official national tally today....  but still haven't heard any explanation of why.

 

Perhaps the Thai government's own version of a local "don't ask, don't tell" policy...  ????

 

With that admission, it seems, they open themselves up more and more to accusations of having engaged in a cover-up ... until public COVID infection reporting by high-profile released political detainees made continuing the charade untenable.

 

 

2 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

 

For those who missed this earlier, the Corrections Department clarified during the course of the day that today's load of newly reported prison COVID cases is based on inmate testing dating back to the beginning of April -- and just not publicly reported until yesterday and then added to the official national tally today....  but still haven't heard any explanation of why.

 

 

Getting all the dirty linen washed.

3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

 

For those who missed this earlier, the Corrections Department clarified during the course of the day that today's load of newly reported prison COVID cases is based on inmate testing dating back to the beginning of April -- and just not publicly reported until yesterday and then added to the official national tally today....  but still haven't heard any explanation of why.

 

 

 

Begs the question, how many more known clusters have gone unreported in the past month.

 

Just another example of the lack of credibility in the reporting

3 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Getting all the dirty linen washed.

 

...by prison inmates...

4 hours ago, joecoolfrog said:

As you dont seem able to grasp the obvious , I will further clarify ;

The low level of testing makes the daily reported figures utterly worthless , nobody knows the true level of infection.

The situation will not improve markedly until a large proportion of the population is vaccinated.

Isn't it strange how the basement dwellers get so aggressive and hysterical towards anyone who contradicts their narrative? But let's stay calm and go through this rationally. The figures currently being published in Thailand are similar to those published in the first wave in the UK in that they mainly record cases confirmed in hospitals. This is certainly not ideal because the true number of cases might be ten times higher. But it certainly isn't worthless because it's a reliable indicator of the overall trend, especially if it's read in conjunction with deaths and ICU admissions. So if we ignore the noise of this one-off inclusion of all the prisoner cases of the current wave, it is clear that cases are in a long plateau. I agree that it's unlikely to come down until a significant proportion of the population is vaccinated.

32 deaths is very low, more die in auto accidents, not necessary to inconvenience 99% of the population to save 1%

19 minutes ago, Susco said:

 

Begs the question, how many more known clusters have gone unreported in the past month.

 

Just another example of the lack of credibility in the reporting

It seems that a lot of people are getting confused by the purpose of reporting the case numbers. Nobody is suggesting that every single case is being picked up. Of course the actual number is much higher. But cases confirmed in hospitals are just one tool that can be used by policy makers and the general population.

12 hours ago, WineOh said:

I'm safe in my room with my wine????

????

4 minutes ago, Ken Jones said:

32 deaths is very low, more die in auto accidents, not necessary to inconvenience 99% of the population to save 1%

Do you think maybe the reason the numbers are so low is becuase of widespread mask wearing and social distancing? Have you contemplated the situations in countries like, say, brazil, where these precautions weren't taken?

I wonder why the number of cases, excluding the prison cases today of course, is always right around 2,000?  Isn't that a little strange/staged?  : o 

1 hour ago, edwardandtubs said:

Isn't it strange how the basement dwellers get so aggressive and hysterical towards anyone who contradicts their narrative? But let's stay calm and go through this rationally. The figures currently being published in Thailand are similar to those published in the first wave in the UK in that they mainly record cases confirmed in hospitals. This is certainly not ideal because the true number of cases might be ten times higher. But it certainly isn't worthless because it's a reliable indicator of the overall trend, especially if it's read in conjunction with deaths and ICU admissions. So if we ignore the noise of this one-off inclusion of all the prisoner cases of the current wave, it is clear that cases are in a long plateau. I agree that it's unlikely to come down until a significant proportion of the population is vaccinated.

Basement dweller ?

So I see as well as being somewhat deluded , you are also a hypocrite , congratulations.

You fail to mention that the UK fairly rapidly ramped up its level of testing , Thailand did not.

 

1 hour ago, Ken Jones said:

32 deaths is very low, more die in auto accidents, not necessary to inconvenience 99% of the population to save 1%

Tell that to to the grieving Indian families !

 

5 hours ago, Keesters said:

And now you get to do the gloating. That makes me sick.... 

 

5 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Are you saying this because it hurts your ego to know you might have been wrong and can not admit it like others on here have.

 

It's really something else. People like keesters will mock us and deride us as being overly scared and fear mongering for discussing what could likely happen if all necessary steps aren't taken during a pandemic and why things like masks, social distancing, and travel/bars being restricted are so imperative.

 

And then when everything we said turned out to be correct, instead of just saying, "hand up, I was wrong", they instead make even more disgusting accusations like we're happy about all of this death and destruction. Seriously, imagine how messed up someone has to be to go that route instead of just saying they were wrong. I saw it all year last year in the US. And not surprisingly, it's always the type of people who think that apologizing is a sign of weakness

 

Meanwhile everything we were saying and doing was with the goal of protecting and helping others (which again, along with empathy, is often viewed as being weakness)

2 hours ago, Ken Jones said:

32 deaths is very low, more die in auto accidents, not necessary to inconvenience 99% of the population to save 1%

Comparing apples and pears. The death rate on Thailand's roads has remained pretty constant and will only reduce through driver/rider education, new laws, proper enforcement of existing laws, change of road demographics. Do none of these and it will stay the same. Do nothing to reduce the means and social interactions by which covid spreads, infection rate will not stay constant, it will increase. You cannot compare the two.

2 hours ago, Ken Jones said:

32 deaths is very low, more die in auto accidents, not necessary to inconvenience 99% of the population to save 1%

Why always compare to traffic fatalities that does not affect people not living in Thailand but bringing the virus into my country affects me use your brain

1 hour ago, joecoolfrog said:

Basement dweller ?

So I see as well as being somewhat deluded , you are also a hypocrite , congratulations.

You fail to mention that the UK fairly rapidly ramped up its level of testing , Thailand did not.

 

You're completely missing the point. Where did I say Thailand's response was as good as the UK's response? Please read carefully. I was just trying to explain to you slowly why covid cases confirmed in hospitals are not totally worthless as you claim. The argument was obviously too nuanced for you. You seem to be a simple-minded kind of guy who needs everything to be black and white but the real world doesn't work like that.

40 minutes ago, Petey11 said:

Comparing apples and pears. The death rate on Thailand's roads has remained pretty constant and will only reduce through driver/rider education, new laws, proper enforcement of existing laws, change of road demographics. Do none of these and it will stay the same. Do nothing to reduce the means and social interactions by which covid spreads, infection rate will not stay constant, it will increase. You cannot compare the two.

Yet SO many people here and on other forms of social media try oh so hard to do so, regardless of how ridiculous they sound

 

At least he was honest and admitted that his whole issue is being inconvenienced. Every single person that's anti-mask is that way because it's slightly inconvenient to wear one, and they'd be more than happy to risk killing a stranger than deal with that inconvenience. Just like how most people here clamoring for no restrictions are doing so because of how inconvenient it is to not be able to go to the pub. Only unlike Mr. Jones above, they come up with every possible lame excuse there is to defend their opinion instead of just saying they'd rather random people die than they be inconvenienced.

 

So kudos to him for at least being honest

40 minutes ago, Petey11 said:

Comparing apples and pears. The death rate on Thailand's roads has remained pretty constant and will only reduce through driver/rider education, new laws, proper enforcement of existing laws, change of road demographics. Do none of these and it will stay the same. Do nothing to reduce the means and social interactions by which covid spreads, infection rate will not stay constant, it will increase. You cannot compare the two.

Yet SO many people here and on other forms of social media try oh so hard to do so, regardless of how ridiculous they sound

 

At least he was honest and admitted that his whole issue is being inconvenienced. Every single person that's anti-mask is that way because it's slightly inconvenient to wear one, and they'd be more than happy to risk killing a stranger than deal with that inconvenience. Just like how most people here clamoring for no restrictions are doing so because of how inconvenient it is to not be able to go to the pub. Only unlike Mr. Jones above, they come up with every possible lame excuse there is to defend their opinion instead of just saying they'd rather random people die than they be inconvenienced.

 

So kudos to him for at least being honest

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India has never been in complete lock down they even kept their border to Nepal open look what happen to Nepal now

20 minutes ago, Meat Pie 47 said:

Why always compare to traffic fatalities that does not affect people not living in Thailand but bringing the virus into my country affects me use your brain

Because people like him will always do everything they can to try to minimize the severity of what we're facing, regardless of how ridiculous the argument is

 

It's like how when cases hit 800, the response was, "it the numbers were so low for so long this isn't a big deal." Then when it was north of 1,500, "we've peaked, no big deal."  2,800 to 2,400 was "numbers are going down, no big deal."  Then averaging over 2,000 daily REPORTED cases for over a week, and it's "we're nowhere close to the numbers of worse off countries, so why implement preventive measures?"

 

These people have invested so much into their belief that Covid is a minor disease and have been so vocal about it that there's nothing that will take them off of the company line.  Even if the worst case scenario were to happen here, they'd immediately move on and say, "well it's out there now, we might as well just live with it and open everything up"