Chinese First Even Before the Elderly and Sick

[rbkk]

https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/3134286/coronavirus-150000-chinese-thailand-start-getting-vaccinated-malaysian This began on Thursday, even the signs are only in the Chinese language. This article should come with a health warning for those with high blood pressure.

[Kiujunn]

Didn't you know who is the boss here?

[KhunBENQ]

China first. Get used to the new world order ????

[Heng]

Maybe it'll make everyone feel better to badmouth their vaccine or something?

[Pattaya Spotter]

I believe it's the Chinese government offering to vaccinate their nationals living and working in Thailand. Don't blow a gasket because you weren't born in China. 

[Kiujunn]

3 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

I believe it's the Chinese government offering to vaccinate their nationals living and working in Thailand. Don't blow a gasket because you weren't born in China. 

Being a Chinese national is not the same as being born in China. 

The Chinese government sees things differently. 

If I would explain the details the post would be deleted by Mod because of racist content.

[Pib]

Don't worry....the registration for jabs among the over 60 crowd has been less than half of eligible....and based on my Thai family and friends that is because they don't trust Sinovac vaccine, have little trust in the AstraZeneca vaccine, and/or generally don't want (afraid) to be vaccinated.    End result: Thailand has plenty of vaccine available right now for the over 60 crowd.

[Surelynot]

5 minutes ago, Pib said:

Don't worry....the registration for jabs among the over 60 crowd has been less than half of eligible....and based on my Thai family and friends that is because they don't trust Sinovac vaccine, have little trust in the AstraZeneca vaccine, and/or generally don't want (afraid) to be vaccinated.    End result: Thailand has plenty of vaccine available right now for the over 60 crowd.

I argued that and got shot down........I think there will considerable resistance from the Thais to being vaccinated and not just resistance to the Sinovac vaccine.......expats might just get a 'shot' at being jabbed yet. 

[Pib]

1 minute ago, Surelynot said:

I argued that and got shot down........I think there will considerable resistance from the Thais to being vaccinated and not just resistance to the Sinovac vaccine.......expats might just get a 'shot' at being jabbed yet. 

I agree that considerable resistance to getting a jab exists among Thais....and I based that on talking with my Thai family and friends.  Many plan to wait for several more months to even register as they want to see what happens with the current ongoing vaccination....and hopes of other (better) vaccines being offered (free or paid).  

 

Right now the govt is easily able to get many millions to willingly register for a jab (i.e., low hanging fruit so to speak), but within 2 months I expect the govt will switch to more pervasive policies to pressure and entice people to get vaccinated.   

[Pattaya Spotter]

42 minutes ago, Kiujunn said:

If I would explain the details the post would be deleted by Mod because of racist content.

You write as if that is a bad thing.

Edited May 22, 2021 by Pattaya Spotter

[smutcakes]

Its money well spent for the Chinese Government. Easy win, cheap to inoculate and keep them passive and accepting and looking good.

[rbkk]

3 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

I believe it's the Chinese government offering to vaccinate their nationals living and working in Thailand. Don't blow a gasket because you weren't born in China. 

I was born in Hong Kong in the 1960's. Hong Kong is a part of The Peoples Republic of China. I've held a Permanent ID Card of HK since i was 18 years old.

 

38 minutes ago, Kiujunn said:

Being a Chinese national is not the same as being born in China. 

The Chinese government sees things differently. 

If I would explain the details the post would be deleted by Mod because of racist content.

Correct. I am not a Chinese national and do not qualify for their Thailand vaccine program. My skin color is wrong.

On a side note, the Royal Thai Consulate-General (HK) refused to offer me a multilple entry Non-O Visa telling me I had to travel to the UK (apply there!) because my passport is British. The passport states my place of birth as Hong Kong. Having a local HK residential address and a permanent ID Card for Hong Kong would not satisfy them that Hong Kong could be my home base. Asian racism in reverse!

[Pattaya Spotter]

28 minutes ago, rbkk said:

My skin color is wrong.

I believe your nationality is the wrong country...nothing to do with skin colour. 

 

The Chinese are doing this for their nationals around the world...it's nothing specific to Thailand. Hong Kong is an unusual case, with its chang over in sovereignty from Britain to China at the turn of the last millennium; I assume you have a UK passport; and that's why you don't qualify for the jab and need to go to the UK for visas.

Edited May 22, 2021 by Pattaya Spotter

[rbkk]

I have received all of the Hong Kong Government (PRC) numerous  cash handouts since the sovereignty change to China, but do not qualify for the Chinese Vaccine Program or a Thai visa from my "Home" countries Consulate. It's hard to know where i belong!

[Pattaya Spotter]

Here's another media report of what the Chinese government is doing for it's people abroad...if only the US (and other wealthy countries) did a tenth as much to help their foreign nationals.

 

BANGKOK (AP) — Chinese citizens living in Thailand began being vaccinated on Thursday as part of China’s global campaign to inoculate its nationals living and working abroad.

 

https://apnews.com/article/china-thailand-coronavirus-pandemic-health-0c0928db9f49e151ed729b15aa9fb85d

[rbkk]

12 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Here's another media report of what the Chinese government is doing for it's people abroad...if only the US (and other wealthy countries) did a tenth as much to help their foreign nationals.

 

BANGKOK (AP) — Chinese citizens living in Thailand began being vaccinated on Thursday as part of China’s global campaign to inoculate its nationals living and working abroad.

 

https://apnews.com/article/china-thailand-coronavirus-pandemic-health-0c0928db9f49e151ed729b15aa9fb85d

It seems the South China Morning Post article I linked to at the top took their story (word for word) from the AP News article the day before....

[jayboy]

2 hours ago, Pib said:

Don't worry....the registration for jabs among the over 60 crowd has been less than half of eligible....and based on my Thai family and friends that is because they don't trust Sinovac vaccine, have little trust in the AstraZeneca vaccine, and/or generally don't want (afraid) to be vaccinated.    End result: Thailand has plenty of vaccine available right now for the over 60 crowd.

Your circle of family and friends is unrepresentative.Most Thais want to be vaccinated as soon as possible.

Edited May 22, 2021 by jayboy

[rbkk]

 

7 minutes ago, jayboy said:

Your circle of family and friends is unrepresentative.Most Thais want to be vaccinated as soon as possible.

So why have so few Thai's registered on the app?

[Pattaya Spotter]

52 minutes ago, rbkk said:

It seems the South China Morning Post article I linked to at the top took their story (word for word) from the AP News article the day before....

Maybe the SCMP is a member of the AP network or licenses their reporting?

[Kiujunn]

10 minutes ago, jayboy said:

Your circle of family and friends is unrepresentative.Most Thais want to be vaccinated as soon as possible.

My circle of family and friends,  same as jayboy's....

I don't have a representative poll of all Thais.  Do you?

[FritsSikkink]

3 hours ago, Kiujunn said:

 

If I would explain the details the post would be deleted by Mod because of racist content.

The Chinese government is giving vaccines to Chinese nationals living in other countries.

Now that wasn't too difficult without being racist.

[rbkk]

5 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

The Chinese government is giving vaccines to Chinese nationals living in other countries.

Now that wasn't too difficult without being racist.

But being born there, having a local residential address and a Permanent ID Card for 40 years does not automatically qualify you.

China does not recognise other nationalities by birth location. A Chinese National (China says) cannot say they are an American because they were born in America. Chinese Nationality trumps all others.

 

[Heng]

4 hours ago, rbkk said:

I was born in Hong Kong in the 1960's. Hong Kong is a part of The Peoples Republic of China. I've held a Permanent ID Card of HK since i was 18 years old.

 

Correct. I am not a Chinese national and do not qualify for their Thailand vaccine program. My skin color is wrong.

On a side note, the Royal Thai Consulate-General (HK) refused to offer me a multilple entry Non-O Visa telling me I had to travel to the UK (apply there!) because my passport is British. The passport states my place of birth as Hong Kong. Having a local HK residential address and a permanent ID Card for Hong Kong would not satisfy them that Hong Kong could be my home base. Asian racism in reverse!

 

But technically speaking you 'could' also become a naturalised PRC citizen if you wanted to.   One of the main links is simply having immediate family who are PRC citizens, yes?

[rbkk]

5 minutes ago, Heng said:

 

But technically speaking you 'could' also become a naturalised PRC citizen if you wanted to.   One of the main links is simply having immediate family who are PRC citizens, yes?

I've always been told I would be unable to get a Chinese passport. Could you expand on "Technically speaking?" I don't have any family who are PRC citizens. I was offered the opportunity to get a new style "Hong Kong" British passport before the handover but didn't apply, and the application deadline passed, because I already had a full UK passport.

[Surelynot]

3 minutes ago, rbkk said:

a full UK passport.

You mean you are a British citizen with full rights?

[rbkk]

Just now, Surelynot said:

You mean you are a British citizen with full rights?

Yes. Both my children (16 yrs and 10 yrs) also have full  British passports. My father was employed and sent by the British Government to work in Hong Kong. His original employment letters from 1961 enabled the issuence of the kids UK passports.

[Heng]

6 minutes ago, rbkk said:

I've always been told I would be unable to get a Chinese passport. Could you expand on "Technically speaking?" I don't have any family who are PRC citizens. I was offered the opportunity to get a new style "Hong Kong" British passport before the handover but didn't apply, and the application deadline passed, because I already had a full UK passport.

 

Well first, I'm not a PRC citizen, but US origin Thai Chinese... I was under the impression that being born in HK, you're automatically considered a Chinese national, even if you hold another passport.   Doesn't that Chinese Nationality rule/law allow a route to citizenship as long as you have Chinese ancestry?   Again, no direct experience with it myself other than academic discussion among Chinese American friends and family.

[rbkk]

7 minutes ago, Heng said:

 I was under the impression that being born in HK, you're automatically considered a Chinese national, even if you hold another passport.  

No. To my knowledge this is incorrect. 

Interestingly, I was born on the mainland in the old Kowloon Hospital, not on the island of Hong Kong.

[Pib]

3 hours ago, jayboy said:

Your circle of family and friends is unrepresentative.Most Thais want to be vaccinated as soon as possible.

Please publish your survey results.

[JTXR]

Not just in Thailand.  The Chinese have announced they're ready to vaccinate their citizens abroad wherever the host country will allow.

 

And the U.S.?  "Oh, we don't provide vaccines."  "Oh, we can't do that."  "Oh, the logistics would be too difficult."  "Oh, it would be too expensive."  Really?  We're not talking about tetanus shots or flu vaccines.  We're talking about a once-in-a-century global pandemic, and the State Department and its embassies are mewling about business as usual.  Even if vaccinating all Americans overseas cost 5 billion dollars, it would a small fraction of one percent of the spending Congress has authorized as pandemic response. 

 

I remember when my country was famous and admired for its can-do attitude.  Is there a big problem?  Well, we'll do what it takes--whatever it takes--to solve it.  But that was then.

The Chinese are smart as hell about this.  They're showing the world they can and will protect their nationals anywhere in the world.  And the U.S. is showing the world a first-class can't-do attitude.  What does the world see?  They see one global superpower and one fat whiny country in decline.

 

Edited May 22, 2021 by JTXR