webfact Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 File photo for reference only The family of a 50 year old man who died after receiving a Covid-19 vaccination are to receive 400,000 baht. Director of Region 4 of the National Health Security Office Dr Chalor Santiwarangkhana revealed that this referred to the death of fifty year old Somchai Muangwang in Pathum Thani. The judicial subcommittee decided he was entitled to the payment as he was the head of the family and responsible for his father and was the main bread winner in the family. It was an initial payment to help the family. If it was proven that he had not died as a result of having the vaccine the family would not need to return the money, reported Manager. Somchai had suffered chest pains after five days of having the jab and died. Further investigations into the cause of his death are underway. Dr Chalor said that such payments applied only to those receiving government vaccinations. Other payments like 240,000 for being handicapped or 100,000 for other complications could be paid. Region 4 is responsible for 8 provinces. Eight claims have been made in this region - two men and six women after complications following vaccinations. Four were minor, three major and the one death. -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2021-06-04 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mikebell Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 Which vaccine? 6 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crossy Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, mikebell said: Which vaccine? Beat me to it! 7 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ExpatOilWorker Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 The mortality rate for Sinovac seem a bit on the high side. Is there any credible statistics available from other countries? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mtls2005 Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, mikebell said: Which vaccine? I searched and searched, also read ~ 5 different articles, no mention. I get why the regime would want to withhold this information, after all they treat the people like buffalo. But better to identify the vaccine, and the rarity of this response, than hide it. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) Deleted as I missed the NOT Edited June 4, 2021 by ThailandRyan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 If he was under 60 then the only vaccine he would have been given would have been Sinovac (CoronaVac) 7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CharlieH Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 10 minutes ago, Crossy said: Beat me to it! I thought there were only 2 , AZ for over 60 and Sinovac for under 60 Or have I got that wrong ? 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RotBenz8888 Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 24 minutes ago, webfact said: Somchai had suffered chest pains after five days of having the jab and died. Blodclot? With those symptoms, it could be either a heart infarction (artery clot) or pulmonary embulous (venous clot). 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post trainman34014 Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 13 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Then why even give them any money if your just going to take it away....you can not make this stuff up now can you. A human interest story that has inhumane reasoning. The world may be interested but probably will be buried as this seems to be an admission of guilt. Read it again and you will see that they DON'T have to pay back the money ! 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, trainman34014 said: Read it again and you will see that they DON'T have to pay back the money ! Oops read over the NOT, my mistake. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post clivebaxter Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 People die every day, so will after having a jab that has not been the cause, probably so in this case 8 1 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ventenio Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 minute ago, clivebaxter said: People die every day, so will after having a jab that has not been the cause, probably so in this case Insensitive and heartless. Of course the jab accelerated his underlying conditions. "oh, you are fat, you drink beer....you will die early. Let me help you....BANG." Not how life works. His family is deeply saddened and you say "people die every day" 13 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICELANDMAN Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 28 minutes ago, CharlieH said: I thought there were only 2 , AZ for over 60 and Sinovac for under 60 Or have I got that wrong ? Sinovac now also over 60 WHO approval 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Captain Monday Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 It is the truth, put a little too bluntly, to say people die everyday Like the bloodclot nonsense, then the J&J "pause". These stories hyped in the media will end up costing more lives than any side effects by contributing to vaccination hesitancy and conspiratorial mongering and psuedoscientific armchair immunology . The vaccines are all safe and effective. Just get your jabs ! 14 5 6 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 4MyEgo Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 21 minutes ago, trainman34014 said: Read it again and you will see that they DON'T have to pay back the money ! I think they might have blindsided a few, it was an initial payment, meaning a deposit, not the whole 400,000 baht, probably to help the family with funeral arrangements and to show the country that the government will not leave anyone uncompensated if they die or become disabled with the crumbs they are offering. That said, you are correct, they don't have to give it back, which to me can mean two things, i.e. an omission of guilt or compassion, you choose which one suites. @ThailandRyan 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ICELANDMAN Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 41 minutes ago, mtls2005 said: I searched and searched, also read ~ 5 different articles, no mention. I get why the regime would want to withhold this information, after all they treat the people like buffalo. But better to identify the vaccine, and the rarity of this response, than hide it. You have no right to know because you receive an experimental vaccine so only medical researchers have the right to inform in a couple of years 7 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 4MyEgo Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, clivebaxter said: People die every day, so will after having a jab that has not been the cause, probably so in this case There is enough evidence out there to suggest that some of these vaccines do cause blood clotting, and other issues, we cannot deny that, albeit it some are rare, and that is enough to suggest that the vaccine is the cause. If you want to shrug that off, then that is your choice. I have not read or seen any video's to show, that of millions of people who get vaccinated by other vaccines, e.g. influenza, pneumonia, etc, not the current experimental Covid vaccines under emergency use authorisation, dying at this level. Sure there is a risk with every drug and vaccine out there, but in my opinion when they say that they when you weigh up the risk vs the benefit, that doesn't gel well with me personally, so at the moment as I keep crossing different sides of the road on getting vaccinated, I will wait until the data is all in and if I don't get vaccinated and get Covid and die, well we can all say that he died of Covid, because I am surely convinced that is what they would say if I died from the vaccine, e.g. it wasn't the vaccine, it was a rare case or something on those lines and push on. Here is an interesting link for those interested. I did a fact check on it and nothing to discredit it, and noticed there are plenty of others out there, but they are not being put in mainstream media, and also have the feeling that it will be taken down here. https://www.globalresearch.ca/12184-dead-1196190-injuries-european-database-adverse-drug-reactions-covid-19-vaccines/5746273 Edited June 4, 2021 by 4MyEgo 10 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NanLaew Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 14 minutes ago, Ventenio said: 18 minutes ago, clivebaxter said: People die every day, so will after having a jab that has not been the cause, probably so in this case Insensitive and heartless. Of course the jab accelerated his underlying conditions. "oh, you are fat, you drink beer....you will die early. Let me help you....BANG." Not how life works. His family is deeply saddened and you say "people die every day" Since the cause of death hasn't even been disclosed yet, your claim that, "the jab accelerated his underlying conditions" is only so much speculative scaremongering. We don't even know if he had any underlying conditions. Anyway, there's real cheap insurance available that would compensate the next family up to 1 million baht for their sad loss if proven to have been caused by the vaccine. Or they can play pot luck and hope the government will give them 400 k. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Captain Monday Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 15 minutes ago, ICELANDMAN said: You have no right to know because you receive an experimental vaccine so only medical researchers have the right to inform in a couple of years The vaccines are not experimental they are approved for emergency use, then approved. These are just words anyway, they are all remarkably safe and effective. Other than legitimate medical exclusions there is no reason to not get vaccinated other than selfishness and ignorance. 2 2 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cclub75 Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) 55 minutes ago, clivebaxter said: People die every day, so will after having a jab that has not been the cause, probably so in this case It's rather strange... because such quote can never be used with Covid. Afterall, most of "dead by Covid" are... "dead with Covid"... since most of them have several comorbidities (and severe, not a running nose). But no. With Covid, there is never any doubt. Covid kills. With vaccines, it's same-same... but a little bit different. There is never any doubt... Vaccines do not kill. Edited June 4, 2021 by cclub75 6 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Captain Monday Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, cclub75 said: It's rather strange... because such quote can never be used with Covid. Afterall, most of "dead by Covid" are... "dead with Covid"... since most of them have several comorbidities (and severe, not a running nose). But no. With Covid, there is never any doubt. Covid kills. With vaccines, it's same-same... but a little bit different. There is never any doubt... Vaccines do not kill. In April I was treated by my company, under strict CDC guidelines, as if I had covid because I had to call in sick for a "cold" three days after the Pfizer dose 1. I passed a PCR test. After I got better in 48 hours I still had to stay home for 8 more days, as I had a presumptive case of covid-19 as noted by the attending Physician. If I died suddenly by being struck by a bus during those 10 days I would be listed as a covid death by the government and as a vaccine casualty by the anti-vcxx hysteric crowd. Ya can't win I tell ya. Edited June 4, 2021 by Captain Monday 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said: If he was under 60 then the only vaccine he would have been given would have been Sinovac (CoronaVac) Not true. Plenty of under 60's are getting astrazeneca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upu2 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 6 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said: The mortality rate for Sinovac seem a bit on the high side. Is there any credible statistics available from other countries? Probably not as all scenarios have not been fully tested 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, DavisH said: Not true. Plenty of under 60's are getting astrazeneca. Here in Thailand? Really, please provide a link to show us as I am very interested to see this as the good PM himself could not take the Sinovac because he was not under 60 and had to use the AZ vaccine, which in those reports stated that it was being used for over 60 years of age https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/suspension-of-astrazeneca-jab-delays-thailands-planned-vaccination-drive Thailand had chosen AstraZeneca as the primary vaccine for those over the age of 60 (including the PM) But hey maybe I am wrong so please show me. Edited June 4, 2021 by ThailandRyan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mtls2005 Posted June 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, Captain Monday said: If I died suddenly by being struck by a bus during those 10 days I would be listed as a covid death by the government Calling BS on this claim. No Coroner would sign such a death certificate. I know it takes a village, but we can do without the idiot. 5 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 hour ago, CharlieH said: I thought there were only 2 , AZ for over 60 and Sinovac for under 60 Or have I got that wrong ? Indeed you are correct, so it was (probably) Sinovac. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thequietman Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, mtls2005 said: Calling BS on this claim. No Coroner would sign such a death certificate. I know it takes a village, but we can do without the idiot. https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/data-analytics/florida-covid-19-fatalities-data-included-man-who-died-in-motorcycle-accident.html Just one example. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Is this supposed to make the family think it's alright? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Rabbit Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 hour ago, CharlieH said: I thought there were only 2 , AZ for over 60 and Sinovac for under 60 Or have I got that wrong ? Depends if you asked today, yesterday or tomorrow???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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