Side effect fevers from vaccines and temperature check screens

[Jingthing]

I have posted before about the ineffectiveness of temperature screening:

Are temperature checks effective, or just "medical theater"? | Salon.com

 

 

As we've all noticed, pandemic related temperature screening is everywhere now in Thailand. To get into malls, to get into stores, you name it ... even to get into residential buildings that you live in!

 

I wonder if now is the time for Thailand to start to drop the temperature screening. As more and more people get vaccines more and more people are going to trigger the screening machines. Sure people can show that they recently had a vaccine but that presumes the security guards manning these stations will understand that is a valid exemption. 

 

In any case, going forward, perhaps people can use this topic to post about problems with temperature screening. Such as having temperatures for clear other reasons than Covid-19 and how they deal with it when they get dinged by the machine. 

Edited June 9, 2021 by Jingthing

[richard_smith237]

I felt feverish... but I don’t think I actually had a fever.

I had aches in joints and muscles for 24 hrs. 

 

Regarding the temperature screening....  was any of that actually taken note of anyway ??

I’ve entered 7-11, malls, supermarkets etc with both hypo and hyperthermia... 

[Jingthing]

52 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

I felt feverish... but I don’t think I actually had a fever.

I had aches in joints and muscles for 24 hrs. 

 

Regarding the temperature screening....  was any of that actually taken note of anyway ??

I’ve entered 7-11, malls, supermarkets etc with both hypo and hyperthermia... 

Many people really do get vaccine side effect fevers.

 

How To Treat A Fever After Getting The COVID-19 Vaccine, According To A Doctor (bustle.com)

 

As far as the screenings, I've never actually witnessed someone failing. Not sure what they do in such cases. I think with stores and malls they probably just tell people to go away.

Edited June 9, 2021 by Jingthing

[Phillip9]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Many people really do get vaccine side effect fevers.

 

Your linked article says only 0.3%, 1 out of every ~300 people gets a high fever.   I wouldn't call that "many" people.  Those few people are going to be feeling really sick, and are probably just going to stay home anyway.

 

Seems like a complete nonissue.

 

[Caldera]

I've seen people fail mall and shop palm temperature checks and the general advice or workaround seems to be to soak your hands in hand sanitizer and try again. I once failed a temperature check at a temple, of all places, and was asked to do the same.

 

Worked every time, magic.

 

Yes, completely ridiculous, BUT I guess the intention is to deter people who think they might fail from venturing out. That might actually work to some extent.

 

At my condo, the rules are clearly published: If a visitor fails the temperature check, they can be denied entry. If a resident fails, they are advised to see a doctor "soon". In practice, nobody forces residents to even use the scanner.

[Jingthing]

44 minutes ago, Phillip9 said:

 

Your linked article says only 0.3%, 1 out of every ~300 people gets a high fever.   I wouldn't call that "many" people.  Those few people are going to be feeling really sick, and are probably just going to stay home anyway.

 

Seems like a complete nonissue.

 

Dude, you just intentionally distorted that article and I'm not amused. You don't need a HIGH fever to fail temperature checks. You just need A FEVER. Developing A FEVER according to the same article you seem to trust so much is described as FAIRLY COMMON. 

Edited June 9, 2021 by Jingthing

[Phillip9]

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

You don't need a HIGH fever to fail temperature checks. You just need A FEVER.

 

You think anyone with a temperature over exactly 37.0C is failing those temperature checks?   On a hot day, I routinely get ~37.8 with no problem.  Those scanners are set to alert at 38 or even higher, I don't know exactly.  That would be a high fever.

[Jingthing]

16 minutes ago, Phillip9 said:

 

You think anyone with a temperature over exactly 37.0C is failing those temperature checks?   On a hot day, I routinely get ~37.8 with no problem.  Those scanners are set to alert at 38 or even higher, I don't know exactly.  That would be a high fever.

Oh no. You did it again. Did I ever say anything remotely like the scanners fail 37 C?

No. I didn't. 

I don't know either what specific number fails. 38 C sounds about right.

38 C is NOT a high fever but it is a fever.

The article says that HIGH fever starts at 39C.

How accurate the devices are is another issue. I personally think they should be scrapped as their value in fighting Covid-19 is very suspect. 

Edited June 9, 2021 by Jingthing

[digbeth]

Have you seen how some place handle over temperature when the machine start triggering and beeping like mad? go have a sit down and try again works for those that just walk in the sun across the car park maybe, some just get hand sanitizer squeezed in their hand and told to try again, which of course with their hand now lathered in alcohol now pass.

 

At least for now manning these points mean people also get checked for mask wearing 

[JAS21]

MrsJ had AZ vaccine yesterday. Felt fine last night. 

 

Work up 4:30am with temp of 37.8C and a sore arm. Cool cloths lowered it a few points. Got my jab 10am ... could be in for a bad few days .........

[wasabi]

The temperature checks are without value other than theater. They have none in the United States because they are futile and purely for show and they are nearly on the other end of the pandemic. How did they possibly manage without those and QR scans?

 

The need to either get close to someone to check and/or form a line while waiting to get scanned probably infects dozens more people than the very, very few they have ever detected with Covid and prevented from entering. That said if you get the vaccine I'd have enough food to stay home for a few days. There is no plan in place for this situation.  I could see a case where you get vaccinated > Show up to various venue with a high temperature > hospitalized. > infected with a Covid variant.  Unlikely but always fun to imagine the possibilities.

[DavisH]

6 hours ago, JAS21 said:

MrsJ had AZ vaccine yesterday. Felt fine last night. 

 

Work up 4:30am with temp of 37.8C and a sore arm. Cool cloths lowered it a few points. Got my jab 10am ... could be in for a bad few days .........

I was a little sleepy on the afternoon of my vaccine. Next day was a low grade headache. No fever. Arm slightly sore I think 2 days after the jab,. but resolved quickly. The headache came back for several days...was thinking clots! lol. But then that resolved. My wife had a bit of a fever and headache for 24 hours but quickly resolved. 

 

So I wouldn't expect much in the way of sever side effects. Good luck!

[vivananahuahin]

Side effects everyone can receive from all medications,i think if you want to be sure before innoculating,speak with a doctor first,make a little blood investigation to check the platelets number,if no diabet,hypertension,LDL en HDL cholesterol, etc......not onlt t° check an blood pressure,but who will do this before??

[CLW]

I felt tired, arm pain and light headache but no increased temperature or fever. Now on day three and almost fine.

Still a bit paranoid about those rare side effects Sinus Vein Thrombosis, that in studies happened most between day 4 and day 11....

[connda]

This will be the norm well into next year if not beyond.  Corporate Big-Box stores and malls may never give this up at all.
At some point they may even get to 70% vaccine "herd-immunity" but my guess is that they'll still find "cases" and "variants" which will be the excuse to call for 100% vaccinations in order to reach 'herd immunity' which will always be a mirage in the distance. To meet the 100% vaccination goals the government will need to change from a stick and a carrot approach to a bludgeon approach.  The bludgeon approach will be mandatory masks, temperature checks, social distancing, and restrictions pretty much forever.
I don't envision this ending anytime soon in Thailand.

[Eaglekott]

On 6/10/2021 at 3:27 AM, Phillip9 said:

On a hot day, I routinely get ~37.8 with no problem.

Usually on a hot day, your skin temperature drops to cool down your body. Many have been testing skin temperature first, then running around like crazy or dance on the spot or what ever, just to notice that the skin temperature drops when the body regulate the temperature.

 

To get higher temperature you must let the sun shine on your skin to warm it up and measure the temperature before you start to sweat.