chiman Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Save the best for last 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 2 hours ago, DonaldBattles said: I seriously doubt that they have even made a deposit let alone paid for the entire order. This is more eye wash for the public. Many people have told me that they will not take the vaccine made in Thailand or China and want to wait for the US shipment. Have paid for and waiting for the Moderna shot in October through Bangkok Hospital, for me, better than the AZ or Sinovac jab, but then again a lot of expats have had either and are fine. Matter of a personal choice for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 A note to the goons who approved this "for emergency use only". Your entire nation is in a state of emergency. The curve is nowhere near being flattened. You will not be able to attract tourists to a nation where they are at greater risk by visiting, than by staying at home, while asking them to jump over silly hoops and submit to arrogant restrictions, inspired by the opposite of science. The entire nation here needs the quality vaccines. So, what do you shleps do? You make the lowest quality, least effective vaccines widely available, while restricting the best ones. Typical. And why? To save a few bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmonkey Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 13 hours ago, wensiensheng said: I see it says 20 million doses here. In another thread it mentions 30 million. I guess it’s not much difference? Why don't we read between the lines, take into account past pledges and performances and round this number down to a nice big fat 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmann Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 14 hours ago, Thailand said: But we haven't got any of that either. lot western world is nearly back to normal ,to little to late ,in france. thai wife ,thai daughter and myself have had our injections ,they dont ask where do you come from ,i am not french pleased i am not in thailand for once. , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WebGuy Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Makes perfect sense. The first batch of one million Pfizer was for the rich and the second batch of the twenty million is for the middle class. Seems everything to be under control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 13 hours ago, dinsdale said: Not enough and not soon enough. Read this and compare. UK is going to use this jab a 3rd booster shot this autumn (northern hemisphere). 60 million more doses. If 3 shots are needed it will be the end of next year at this rate for Thailand. These grandiose statements bear no weight with me as time and again they are proved to be just grandstanding nonsence. https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1116 How true! Our village headman announced on the tannoy last week that covid had reached our market town 17 km away and it was necessary that we should get vaccinated....where? how? we've been registered on the app since it was possible but still no word from the hospital, it's all BS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennw Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Why does the govt not seem to recognize the time bomb we are sitting on. The delta version is so much more transmissible. According to latest reports from Sydney Australia a 1 second contact is all it takes with this variant. Australia has very strict country entry and exit rules, the latest outbreak apparently caused by an airport transfer driver ferrying an aircrew then passing on the delta version. And here they are proposing to open up to tourists at a time when few here a vaccinated and those that are, with a vaccine with low performance against latest covid versions. Expect to see even more deadly versions to appear before our slow vaccine rollout is able to jab the majority of the population. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 14 hours ago, dinsdale said: The approval makes it the sixth COVID-19 vaccine approved in Thailand None of which are widely available. It and the others are so far away I can't even register for a jab. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nojohndoe Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 The stark reality is that Thailand could "approve" any vaccine out there but it would not change genuine availability . Thailand's Authorities undeniably made a huge error based on the complacency created by the initial 12 months of minimal infection and reliance on local predicted production of AZ . Were it not for the fact that the developing seriousness of the current situation is no joke it would easily fit the description of "a comedy of errors". That said I feel quite disgusted by the hoarding and manipulation in supply internationally by various countries exercising control and touting "vaccine diplomacy" as some justification in politicization ! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefaultName Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 12 hours ago, ikke1959 said: The Phillippines get the vaccines in August, delivery in eight weeks, why is Thailand delaying again?? They aren't delaying. There is no vaccine to buy. They are trying to buy future production. not something sitting in a warehouse ready to ship, and it doesn't matter if you're buying a vaccine or a new Mercedes, any manufacturing process can have unexpected delays. The main issue is that that furure production is already allocated to countries/companies who ordered earlier. Thais and Thailand being so obviously superior people who should go instantly to the front of the queue doesn't seem to matter to the manufacturers for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 14 hours ago, koratkarlos said: It is my understanding that the Pfizer vaccine is targeted for Thai children. Perhaps this is due to it being approved for youth but perhaps us high risk older folk could use it too. Can someone explain why the Pfizer will be given to the low risk group. I am happy for the kids but jealous for sure. It can be used for high risk older groups and can be given even if yiu have used Moderna or Astrazeneca for first shot. Astrezeneca on the other hand seems to have some adverse effects on younger persons and is recomended for older adults. Pfizer is the only shot athorized for children in the US with Moderna seeking further testing and approval. Sinovac is seeking approval for children in various countries. https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/first-covid-19-vaccine-approved-children-aged-12-15-eu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raccos21 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 The question is when they will get it!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobinBKK Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Oh, Thailand approves? That's priceless!!! 555555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony125 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 minute ago, raccos21 said: The question is when they will get it!? Who knows but Pfizer is kranking up their out put in factories and getting permision for other factories to to produce it to boost supplies around the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRG23 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 I got the AZ jab yesterday at Ploenchit Centre. Very gratefull to receive the vaccine - and for free - but my goodness, what a circus! What a Circus!!! In order to eventually get the jab it took five hours (!) of queueing, paperwork, blood pressure tests, more paperwork, more queues, and more tests. Unbelievable. It wasn't that busy either! The Thais really need to sort this out. Organise a system whereby less time is spent on bureaucratic BS (although some is obviously important) and more time on getting the vaccine in peoples' arms. Yesterday there were only 250,000 people who got the jab (including me) but this is way way below the kind of numbers required. Sort it out!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobydog Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 13 hours ago, Caldera said: Is Thailand the last country on Earth that has approved the Pfizer vaccine? I don't know, but it sure feels like that! Approving the Vaccine is not the same as having the money to pay for it tho? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobydog Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 12 hours ago, ikke1959 said: The Phillippines get the vaccines in August, delivery in eight weeks, why is Thailand delaying again?? Probably no money honey lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placnx Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 4 hours ago, Excel said: Actually there has been https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57358446 Trial is also under way for children as young as 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caspersfriend Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 14 hours ago, wensiensheng said: I see it says 20 million doses here. In another thread it mentions 30 million. I guess it’s not much difference? Don't fret. Just like Moderna, it will probably end up being 10 million; at most. The remainder going to 'good causes'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djayz Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 5 hours ago, ikke1959 said: emergency use........ Is it still an emergency if you get the medication after 6 months?? I'd be happy if I thought there was any chance of me/us getting the vaccination in 6 months... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yewbzee Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 The global data shows that this a very good vaccine but with a minus 70 degree centigrade storage requirement for this vaccine would anyone honestly trust the logistics chain in Thailand to maintain that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
club Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Yewbzee said: The global data shows that this a very good vaccine but with a minus 70 degree centigrade storage requirement for this vaccine would anyone honestly trust the logistics chain in Thailand to maintain that? NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFoxy Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 39 minutes ago, JRG23 said: I got the AZ jab yesterday at Ploenchit Centre. Very gratefull to receive the vaccine - and for free - but my goodness, what a circus! What a Circus!!! In order to eventually get the jab it took five hours (!) of queueing, paperwork, blood pressure tests, more paperwork, more queues, and more tests. Unbelievable. It wasn't that busy either! The Thais really need to sort this out. Organise a system whereby less time is spent on bureaucratic BS (although some is obviously important) and more time on getting the vaccine in peoples' arms. Yesterday there were only 250,000 people who got the jab (including me) but this is way way below the kind of numbers required. Sort it out!! When it got my Pfizer, whole process took 35 minutes (including 30 minutes post jab waiting time) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieAus Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 15 hours ago, dinsdale said: Not enough and not soon enough. Read this and compare. UK is going to use this jab a 3rd booster shot this autumn (northern hemisphere). 60 million more doses. If 3 shots are needed it will be the end of next year at this rate for Thailand. These grandiose statements bear no weight with me as time and again they are proved to be just grandstanding nonsence. https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1116 You can hardly compare Thailand and the UK re infections, lockdowns and other restrictions together with the time they have been in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty1412 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 15 hours ago, wensiensheng said: I see it says 20 million doses here. In another thread it mentions 30 million. I guess it’s not much difference? why worry.. you know in a week or so they will apologise and say they can only get half whatever number it is ... so work on average of 25M then half it and its 12M , allow 30% of that to be taken off for special interests (like the Thai beverage deal) so its now 7M.... split that into 2 shipments one in November 2020 the other in June 2021 and you end up with 3.5M in 2020.... once you understand how the this government works ( sic) the numbers become so much easier to work with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas J Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 50 minutes ago, Bobydog said: Probably no money honey lol Maybe they could pawn one of the submarines they have on order. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 (edited) No explanation why Pfizer's original application to the Thai FDA in November was rejected and government sources repeatedly said they hadn't applied. Pfizer, which works against the variants, at the same price as the Chinese products that don't work, is a no brainer and was at the time. Still no explanation of the marked up prices for Sinovac which they seem to be still ordering in spite of clear evidene that it doesn't work against delta and beta and barely work against alpha. Someone is getting very rich though. Edited June 25, 2021 by Dogmatix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 15 hours ago, wensiensheng said: I see it says 20 million doses here. In another thread it mentions 30 million. I guess it’s not much difference? Any advance on 30 million? Going, going,.............................? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 hour ago, JRG23 said: I got the AZ jab yesterday at Ploenchit Centre. Very gratefull to receive the vaccine - and for free - but my goodness, what a circus! What a Circus!!! In order to eventually get the jab it took five hours (!) of queueing, paperwork, blood pressure tests, more paperwork, more queues, and more tests. Unbelievable. It wasn't that busy either! The Thais really need to sort this out. Organise a system whereby less time is spent on bureaucratic BS (although some is obviously important) and more time on getting the vaccine in peoples' arms. Yesterday there were only 250,000 people who got the jab (including me) but this is way way below the kind of numbers required. Sort it out!! That is horrible. I was lucky enough to be able to book through Mor Prom and get an appointment through my regular private hospital in Bangkok. There were several steps of registration and temperature and blood pressure taking but proper social distancing observed at each. I arrived 15 minutes early and had my jab only 5 minutes after the appointment time. Was asked to wait 30 minutes to check no anaphalyctic shock and someone came and told me when I could go and how to find the next appointment in Mor Prom. It seems they have created a two tier vaccination system: private hospitals and the emergency vaccination centres and anything goes in the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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