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Thai anti-govt protesters clash with police in Bangkok


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27 minutes ago, engamann said:

Wow no wonder you love this junta whit this mindset , you would probably have a good life in China , North Korea , Belarus , Syria etc etc also county where the governments like to silence the people. 

Do you have any first hand experience with Thai politicians before Prayut? And do you know how most Thai people vote? 

Prayut wouldn't be in charge if the majority of Thais would vote for honest politicians. But that's not what the majority does...

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12 hours ago, Caldera said:

And what's your point? Should the students just join you in your defeatism and give up, instead of putting up a fight? That would be the only way to guarantee that nothing will ever change.

Yes, the students should give up.  They have less support today than they did a year ago.  
 

All they’ve done is escalate their violence as their popular support has declined.  
 

And no, I’m not a supporter of the military.
 

Sometimes it’s just time to admit you backed the wrong horse.  
 

They screwed up when they attacked certain institutions that the majority don’t oppose.  
 

They were young and stupid and fell into PR traps that made them seem violent which turned many people off to them. 
 

Besides their list of demands, they have no plan.  You can’t overthrow a government and not lead the aftermath.  
 

The reason the red shirts had 10x the number of people in the streets in 2010 was because if they won, Thaksin would take control.  Thaksin has something to promise them.  The students have nothing to offer.  
 

The students are like, “Prayut must resign”. And then what?   
 

Even a farmer with a 6th grade education realizes nothing will change unless the students have a viable leader to take over.
 

It’ll just be another corrupt politician who steps in and maintains the status quo.   
 

Right now, the student movement has degraded to a bunch of people who know they’re blacklisted for life trying to postpone the inevitable slump back into obscurity and possibly years in jail.  
 

They a shot and failed.  Time to do what every failed coup leader does and go into exile.  
 

Like I said, I’m not yellow or red or whatever.  I was excited in the beginning.  Now, it’s a lost cause.  They’ve lost support over time, not gained it.  

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18 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

No such thing.


I think a lot of people live in a naive world where Thailand can be like a western democracy.  
 

Worse, they believe that’s what a majority of Thais want.
 

There’s a reason why things are like they are.  It’s not a mistake.  It’s not an accident. 
 

For instance, the police are paid poorly for a reason.  The people in power want crooked cops because that means there’s no such thing as an honest cop.  
 

You wont last long as a cop being honest. Nobody (ie other cops) wont trust you.  


Similarly, there’s no such thing as a politician that isn’t dirty.  Is anybody actually naive enough to think that a politician of any real power is going to be allowed to rise up through the ranks without someone having dirt on them?  
 

IMHO, Chuwit was the only honest politician because everyone knew he ran half the prostitution in Bangkok, paid massive amounts in protection and bribes, and had dirt on some of the most powerful people in Thailand.  He had so much dirt on everyone else, they couldn’t get rid of him because he threatened to turn it all over if he died under mysterious circumstances.  
 

Thailand is decades away from a western style democracy.  It will take generations to slowly reform all of the levers of power.  

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5 hours ago, digibum said:

Thailand is decades away from a western style democracy.  It will take generations to slowly reform all of the levers of power.  

And then, decades later, will they end up like that country which pretends to be the beacon of democracy? Or to say it in other words: The land of the free idiots who vote for the super idiot. ???? 

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