What's with these constant scaremongering photos of Coffins? 

3 minutes ago, Kaopad999 said:

What's with these constant scaremongering photos of Coffins? 

You look at it as scaremongering, but I see it as a reality of the Covid cases and the issues we are experiencing due to the vaccine rollout, the ATK test kits and home isolation, as well as early releases from the hospital still treating with medications and told to self isolate for another 14 days before being retested..

3 minutes ago, Kaopad999 said:

What's with these constant scaremongering photos of Coffins? 

Asked  similar a week or so back. Its a file photo that supposedly ties in with the topic. Theres another word for it tho! 

1 minute ago, ThailandRyan said:

You look at it as scaremongering, but I see it as a reality of the Covid cases and the issues we are experiencing due to the vaccine rollout, the ATK test kits and home isolation, as well as early releases from the hospital still treating with medications and told to self isolate for another 14 days before being retested..

You see a lot from an old coffin pic! You missed the broken economy tho! 

9 minutes ago, Kaopad999 said:

What's with these constant scaremongering photos of Coffins? 

sparing a thought for the 262 who perished yesterday, just a thought.

1 minute ago, Olmate said:

You see a lot from an old coffin pic! You missed the broken economy tho! 

Did not miss the broken economy, it is a sad state and will continue forward even if they were to open up the country to allow anyone to arrive unencumbered.  The risk being that by doing that the country could be decimated further, it is a very precarious situation to try and balance things on the edge of a knife with a Government that seems to think that what they have done is perfect.  Had they done what many other countries had done first when it came to vaccinating folks starting with the elderly instead of dropping down to tourist Areas and such, maybe the state of the country might be in a better state, but then that is just my opinion.  They seem to have hung their hopes on tourism and only 2 vaccines to save the country.  It is a sad state of affairs in my book.  I do not like lock downs, but I do think some of the restrictions were needed while some did not go far enough while others were quite overboard, like the multiple testing's of vaccinated tourists during their 14 day visits while not testing the vaccinated population as well in a similar fashion.

3 hours ago, Marvin Hagler said:

It’s interesting to see what is happening in Malaysia at the moment. 55% of the population is fully vaccinated and yet cases are going through the roof (highest they have ever been). What is so different between Malaysia and Thailand? The answer is that one is transparent and telling the truth and the other is lying.

 

Bear in mind that the Malaysian government was toppled due to their poor handling of Covid. So there may be a reason that this Junta government is lying about the numbers.

It’s a combination of bs, face (boooorrringg!!!) and incompetence.  

39 minutes ago, Olmate said:

You see a lot from an old coffin pic! You missed the broken economy tho! 

 

Yeah cuz 1,000 deaths a day is going to be GREAT for the economy -- fix it right up!  ????

 

44 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

You look at it as scaremongering, but I see it as a reality of the Covid cases

Is that not what the numbers are there for? 

So why the extra 'icing on the cake' with coffin photos? 

or have we all forgotten how to read & count? 

 

National Vaccination Rollout:

 

DAY 81: 669,189

DAY 82: 915,738 <— New High

DAY 83: 258,782 <— Saturday

DAY 84: 275,188 <— Sunday

DAY 85: 817,342

DAY 86: 828,182

DAY 87: 827,462

 

TOTAL: 33,427,463 doses since 28 February

 

13.38% fully vaccinated

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1433306350897930243

2 hours ago, Scrotobike said:

I would love to see stats on this as anicdotally from reliable news reports people are dying shortly after testing as they are already very sick when walking in to the Hospital. Do you have access to these stats or a link I can look at - happy to be upgraded.

My comment was off the back of various medical studies of the past year or so, nothing in particular.

 

any stats on your anecdotal reliable news reports? ????

 

I’m guessing it varies, depending on not just severity of symptoms, but also standard of medical care provided and how early said medical care is received. But for sure deaths lag cases numbers. Pick your own average time frame. So no surprise that cases might drop, while cases rise, just after a peak each reached.

2 hours ago, Scrotobike said:

I would love to see stats on this as anicdotally from reliable news reports people are dying shortly after testing as they are already very sick when walking in to the Hospital. Do you have access to these stats or a link I can look at - happy to be upgraded.

My comment was off the back of various medical studies of the past year or so, nothing in particular.

 

any stats on your anecdotal reliable news reports? ????

 

I’m guessing it varies, depending on not just severity of symptoms, but also standard of medical care provided and how early said medical care is received. But for sure deaths lag cases numbers. Pick your own average time frame. So no surprise that cases might drop, while cases rise, just after a peak each reached.

4 hours ago, anchadian said:

Chonburi Public Health Office is reporting 881 new cases today and 4 more deaths. Most new cases are in Chonburi City (146), Bang Lamung/Pattaya (122), and Si Racha (284). There are 15,098 patients in care #COVID19 #โควิดวันนี้ #Thailand

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1433221133147328526

Further details:

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/09/02/chonburi-reports-881-new-covid-19-cases-with-4-deaths/

Today there were 262 deaths in #Thailand

 

140 males & 122 females

Burmese (9), American (2), Norwegian (1)

Median age 68 (25-103 years)

Most deaths in Bangkok (80)

70% of deaths aged 60+

1 pregnant woman died

1 died at home or on the way to hospital

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1433308371256438795

Each province's daily domestic COVID-19 cases update in Thailand on Thursday.

Total: 14,939

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158231871652050

 

Just now, anchadian said:

Each province's daily domestic COVID-19 cases update in Thailand on Thursday.

Total: 14,939

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158231871652050

 

Yet again there is a discrepancy in figures for Prachuap Khiri Khan! We have it as 183 cases which is slightly different. Just what is going on??

 

 

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1433309654096887808

A Covid-19 ‘haunting’ in Buri Ram

 

A former Covid-19 patient went live on social media on Wednesday to share the eerie surroundings of the temple funeral hall in Buri Ram where he is being forced to isolate.

 

After 14 days of treatment at Nong Ki field hospital, the doctor gave me a certificate and told me to isolate myself at home for another 14 days.

 

However, when he arrived at his partner’s house, community leaders pounced on him and insisted he shift to the funeral hall, which Jarupong says is unfair and hopes some action will be taken.

 

https://www.nationthailand.com/in-focus/40005613

 

 

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1433309654096887808

4 hours ago, wensiensheng said:

“The news comes as Public Health officials will accelerate the vaccination of people aged over 50 as a matter of urgency, after it was discovered that 80% COVID-19 related fatalities were people aged 50 and over, according to the Centre for COVID-19 Situation Administration (CCSA).”

 

It’s statements like this that make me wonder whether half the CCSA have been unconscious for the last 12 months. I mean, haven’t they been paying attention?

I agree that it's incredible to read statements like this, but I think we have to look for what the officials said versus what the media said. 

 

It looks like Asean Now lifted the quoted directly from this pbsworld article, and  it appears the Spokesperson actually "noted" rather than "discovered" the death rate among the elderly. 

 

The government made a conscious decision to allocate vaccinations to Bangkok rather than to the elderly throughout the country. I'm not saying that that was the right the decision, but they knew that elderly people would die. They haven't just "discovered" that they are dying, contrary to the impression given by the Asean Now article.

 

Incidentally, the CSSA spokesperson quoted in the article has an interesting history. She was Miss Thailand 1999, then a news anchor, now spokesperson for the CSSA.

42 minutes ago, Kaopad999 said:

Is that not what the numbers are there for? 

So why the extra 'icing on the cake' with coffin photos? 

or have we all forgotten how to read & count? 

 

To remind people of the reality that Covid does kill.....just my take on it

32 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Each province's daily domestic COVID-19 cases update in Thailand on Thursday.

Total: 14,939

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158231871652050

 

There is the porpoise in stats for Udon Thani showing up as the numbers climb back up the past 2 days.  Talking with friends up that way there are more at home who have tested positive on the ATK tests, but they have no idea of the numbers so its anecdotal.

38 minutes ago, anchadian said:

Each province's daily domestic COVID-19 cases update in Thailand on Thursday.

Total: 14,939

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10158231871652050

 

They got Phuket wrong, says on the graph 238 but it was 204

1 hour ago, anchadian said:

DAY 85: 817,342

DAY 86: 828,182

DAY 87: 827,462

Daily vaccination numbers. Very consistent this week.

3 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

How they switch, manipulate, or change numbers it is still the same about 40% of the tests PCR and ATK are positive. It didn't change from last week.. split it in more like prisons, markets, navy .. but that doesn't change the percentage.. and we all know they don't count numbers, just like the 396 of Prachuap kiri Kan were never seen in the daily reports... It is very dangerous at this moment in Thailand to get Covid infected

Absolutely right, stay out or get out !

1 hour ago, anchadian said:

National Vaccination Rollout:

 

DAY 81: 669,189

DAY 82: 915,738 <— New High

DAY 83: 258,782 <— Saturday

DAY 84: 275,188 <— Sunday

DAY 85: 817,342

DAY 86: 828,182

DAY 87: 827,462

 

TOTAL: 33,427,463 doses since 28 February

 

13.38% fully vaccinated

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1433306350897930243

Absolute BS numbers…

 

It is simply not possible that Thailand could continuously vaccinate 20% more people every day than the UK could on its one off best day.

 

 

Interesting article from NY Times.

Which may explain current trend in Thailand.

 

Has Delta Peaked?

We investigate Covid’s mysterious two-month cycle.

 

"Since the pandemic began, Covid has often followed a regular — if mysterious — cycle. In one country after another, the number of new cases has often surged for roughly two months before starting to fall. The Delta variant, despite its intense contagiousness, has followed this pattern."

 

"After Delta took hold last winter in India, caseloads there rose sharply for slightly more than two months before plummeting at a nearly identical rate. In Britain, caseloads rose for almost exactly two months before peaking in July. In Indonesia, Thailand, France, Spain and several other countries, the Delta surge also lasted somewhere between 1.5 and 2.5 months."

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/01/briefing/delta-peak-covid-caseload.html

 

 

Same report from MSNBC.

 

When Will The Covid Delta Variant Peak? Has It Already? - YouTube

https://greekreporter.com/2021/09/01/new-coronavirus-variant-mu-resistant-

vaccines/

 

The World Health Organization (WHO) said on Wednesday it is monitoring a new coronavirus variant known as “Mu,” which was first identified in Colombia in January of 2021.

Mu, known scientifically as B.1.621, has been classified as a “variant of interest,” the global health body stated in its weekly pandemic bulletin.

 

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/mu-variant-could-be-coming-after-delta-and-may-be-resistant-to-vaccines/news-story/e6f7fcfd15228b703cbd3c0b048e4e3e

 

The World Health Organisation is monitoring a Covid-19 variant with mutations the agency fears could make it resistant to vaccines.

The Mu variant, also known as B. 1.621, was added as a “variant of interest” to the organisation’s watch list on Monday.

“The Mu variant has a constellation of mutations that indicate potential properties of immune escape,” a spokesman for the WHO said.

1 hour ago, Exploring Thailand said:

I agree that it's incredible to read statements like this, but I think we have to look for what the officials said versus what the media said. 

 

It looks like Asean Now lifted the quoted directly from this pbsworld article, and  it appears the Spokesperson actually "noted" rather than "discovered" the death rate among the elderly. 

 

The government made a conscious decision to allocate vaccinations to Bangkok rather than to the elderly throughout the country. I'm not saying that that was the right the decision, but they knew that elderly people would die. They haven't just "discovered" that they are dying, contrary to the impression given by the Asean Now article.

 

Incidentally, the CSSA spokesperson quoted in the article has an interesting history. She was Miss Thailand 1999, then a news anchor, now spokesperson for the CSSA.

Lol, she has done pretty well for herself overall.

 

thanks for the info, the only things I would add are:

 

1. Noting, rather than discovering, is a little bit splitting of hairs. Noting such an obvious and well known fact is a bit like saying kids shouldn’t play on busy roads. They make themselves look foolish by stating such obvious facts in the context of justifying a new strategy to accelerate the vaccination of those over 50 as a matter of urgency.

 

2. In addition to prioritizing Bangkok, a few hundred thousand doses of vaccine were sent to Phuket and Samui to be administered, irrespective of the age of the recipients. A conscious decision similar to the Bangkok one.

 

3. From the very start of the vaccination program, the authorities have said that the elderly and at risk, are a priority. But in reality they weren’t. So this “new” strategy that they suddenly decided to “note” isn’t really new at all. And since Phuket is now aiming for kids as young as 12 to be vaccinated and booster shots to be provided for those who received sinovac early on, it’s hard to see that the reality of the “new” strategy will be any different to that of the old strategy. Namely that elderly are a priority……after economically important tourism areas.

 

4. A disproportionate number of vaccine doses are still going to have to be sent to Bangkok in the near future. That’s simply because so many people have received a first dose and very soon they will have to be second dosed. So elderly and at risk people elsewhere will still rank behind healthy young people in Bangkok unless there is sufficient vaccine doses to amply supply both segments.

 

at the end of the day, everyone in Thailand who wants to be vaccinated, will be vaccinated. The road followed has been somewhat twisting and winding and it probably will be all the way to the end. Whether it’s a good job done depends on your point of view I suppose.

5 hours ago, Marvin Hagler said:

It’s interesting to see what is happening in Malaysia at the moment. 55% of the population is fully vaccinated and yet cases are going through the roof (highest they have ever been). 

Vaccinations don't reduce infections rates all that much, primarily reduces mortality rates.