16 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

those without vaccination proof would be isolated for 10 days if arriving by air, and 14 days if by land.

Why the difference? Any logic to this? Any scientific data to show that Covid is less dangerous if you fly?

3 hours ago, zzaa09 said:

Something they still haven't the ability to comprehend.

The holidaymakers ain't comin' in droves if they're required to quarantine.....14 days, 10 days, 7 days, whatever. 

Spot on. My 2 daughters and their families usually visit every year but they are just not prepared to jump through all the paperwork hoops and the quarantine so they'll be holidaying elsewhere.

Only zero quarantine will work.  Only the requirement of just full-vaccination will work.   When you start piling on the hoops to jump through it's a wasted effort--they won't come.  

13 minutes ago, James105 said:

and focuses instead of numbers of positive tests

Actually there was a shift a few weeks ago from the focus on new infections to 'recoveries'.... probably more to minimize concern wrt hospitals. I can certainly appreciate concern with respect to reducing rules etc for quarantine/ test requirements for visiting foreign tourists..... I  worry about the paperwork they present......in the early days too many test results were actually fake paperwork.

Gold Star>  

Learn facts before typing. Suncreen allowed- only those with certain ingredients banned- same in many parts of the world.

16 hours ago, Upnotover said:

 

"Halving" obviously means something else in these parts.

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Obviously, with the Thai's acute knowledge of American history and Longfellow's Paul Revere, they were thinking "one if by air, two if by sea," but the reporter was a half-wit.

The problem is that we are at the end of September right now, people want to plan ahead where possible for the Christmas period especially. The Thai government are not making it easy for would be tourists who may only have 2 or 3 weeks vacation. No one is going to want to spend a third of their vacation in a hotel room, plus next week the conditions may change again.

It would appear that the "high season" this year will be similar to last years!

What's the betting that the 'double vaxxed' requirement will be changed at the eleventh hour to double vaxxed with last shot no more than 6 months before date of entry ... if longer, then antibody titre test also required!

Scrap quarantine for all those who have been vaccinated scrap the bars being closed scrap the curfew, scrap the insistence on three negative tests  then and only then might you get the tourists back half measures will not do the trick.

Those vaccinated = no quarantine at all
Not vaccinated = no entry into Thailand
Simple as that - provided that all those who wanted, got meanwhile vaccinated.

The last sentence is the problem of Thailand, they've been d1cking around far too long with who buys where how many jabs - a totally uncoordinated mess, like most other things here. 

While Anutin and Sudarat are still word-fighting over who does/does not ...... other countries enjoy the overflow tourism of all those, who wanted to go to Thailand and now ended up in Southern Turkey, Caribbean, Central America etc. Europe is open and doing thriving business again, without the guided leadership of some 1d1ots from the political arena! 

1 hour ago, Metapod said:

Shows how useless the vaccines are and how little faith they have in them when you are still required to quarantine and take tests.

 

 

Yawn...

The USA has 56% of the population vaccinated yet they Jampacked football stadiums by the millions every weekend shoulder to shoulder without masks what’s up with that

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Vaccines significantly reduce infection and spread of the virus. 

Please read the post to which I responded for the context

It sure helps those who have to come anyway, or have a reason to visit Thailand specifically, but it won't entice many regular tourists to come.

 

Many other destinations can now be visited by vaccinated travelers without any test (except pre-flight) and quarantine. As an added benefit, you can even get a beer there in a restaurant without having to fear a raid and arrest. 

 

Thailand has a long way to go to become an attractive tourist destination again.

Clowns.. They really are useless. Travellers will not return until all restrictions are lifted. How many times do we have to remind these buffoons. The only people coming back are those that have family or live here. Tourists have far better options in Europe. They are going to cost millions of Thais another high season down the toilet. 

16 hours ago, boogiewoogie said:

Bash overpriced PCR tests now! One is enough!

 

 

Too much profit in it to drop it ....

And how’s that different from hotel quarantine?

 

LOL. These guys are priceless.

17 hours ago, aussiexpat said:

Lift you up and then smash you back down. With 7 day ASQ I'd be booking my flight right now...but no, they still want 10 days, which would mean 11 nights....

 

...so much for half ????

Book your flight 555

15 hours ago, Blumpie said:

Sounds awesome.  You're tempting me!

Same here, planning to do 3 months next year on the islands. Will leave Thailand as soon as I have the second jab and wont return until all this quarantine nonsense has been removed. Just dot prepared to spend one night, never mind 14 or 10. Its retarded.   

Those I really feel for are the thousands of Thai nationals who live abroad, are fully vaccinated, and are required to do ASQ if they want to return to visit family. These are the first people that should be removed from ASQ requirements. Look after yer own first. 

There is no mention at all in this " Reuters ", report that those who have been double Vaxxed, will have between 7and 10 days Quarantine, and that this period of Quarantine will be taken on a case by case basis !!!. as reported in BP this AM.

 

1 hour ago, Rocking Robert said:

The USA has 56% of the population vaccinated yet they Jampacked football stadiums by the millions every weekend shoulder to shoulder without masks what’s up with that

And they have well over 100,000 new positives and a couple of thousand deaths, every day.

Need a new pair of Flip Flops...????

 

Cutting the quarantine stay (if we consider this concept even as useful at all for a potential infection with a virus with such a ridiculously small risk for non-risk groups ????) in half for vaccinated people - isn't that pretty silly and just the opposite of the rational approach? Sorry for being blunt.

 

But at this point, anyone who still doesn't know that vaccinated people can carry even multiples of the viral load than unvaccinated, can't be taken seriously.

 

Vaccinated people are not "safe" for others, but arguably even more dangerous, as during an infection, their symptoms are suppressed while they may feel over-confident and spread the virus for days or weeks after leaving the quarantine. They should allow unvaccinated (who usually show symptoms 3-4 days after an infection at latest) to leave after 5-6 days if symptom-free (again: if we consider a quarantine for this virus as useful at all), but keep the vaccinated in for at least 1-2 weeks just to make sure, and also test them for their viral loads extensively.

 

Edited September 24, 20214 yr by pepi2005

16 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

It is not about keeping it out, it is about controlling the spread, and not overwhelming an already inadequate hospital system

 

That' would be solved by not sending everyone that sniffles to a two week sentence.

However, that's not going to happen when their profits from doing so are 14,200,000,000 since beginning of year.

18 hours ago, Upnotover said:

 

"Halving" obviously means something else in these parts.

You are barking/bashing up the wrong tree. The proposal as reported in the main news clearly states  7 days for fully vaccinated people taking tests. The article forgets to mention this part. I suggest you direct your arithmetic grievances to Reuters.

Come t

32 minutes ago, scorecard said:

And they have well over 100,000 new positives and a couple of thousand deaths, every day.

They pay the hospitals and clinics large sums for diagnosing it as  covid related.  $37,000 per.

No wonder everything is covid.

CDC states that only 5% of all deaths are FROM covid.

30 minutes ago, pepi2005 said:

Cutting the quarantine stay (if we consider this concept even as useful at all for a potential infection with a virus with such a ridiculously small risk for non-risk groups ????) in half for vaccinated people - isn't that pretty silly and just the opposite of the rational approach? Sorry for being blunt.

 

But at this point, anyone who still doesn't know that vaccinated people can carry even multiples of the viral load than unvaccinated, can't be taken seriously.

 

Vaccinated people are not "safe" for others, but arguably even more dangerous, as during an infection, their symptoms are suppressed while they may feel over-confident and spread the virus for days or weeks after leaving the quarantine. They should allow unvaccinated (who usually show symptoms 3-4 days after an infection at latest) to leave after 5-6 days if symptom-free (again: if we consider a quarantine for this virus as useful at all), but keep the vaccinated in for at least 1-2 weeks just to make sure, and also test them for their viral loads extensively.

 

You forget that the unvaccinated are up to 10 times more likely to be infected.

2 minutes ago, Dart12 said:

Come t

They pay the hospitals and clinics large sums for diagnosing it as  covid related.  $37,000 per.

No wonder everything is covid.

CDC states that only 5% of all deaths are FROM covid.

That’s 1500 deaths a day that are preventable, via vaccination.
 

the other deaths are not. Big difference.

 

More to the point, if murders represent only 5% of all deaths, should murderers go free?

Edited September 24, 20214 yr by Danderman123

3 minutes ago, Dart12 said:

Come t

They pay the hospitals and clinics large sums for diagnosing it as  covid related.  $37,000 per.

 

Misinformation 

18 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Common sense would see the following... 

 

- Vaccinated arrivals no quarantine 

- Pre-flight PCR test requirement

- Arrival PCR test requirement (24 hr home / hotel quarantine until negative result is known)

 

Only until 70% of the population if vaccinated with an ‘effective’ vaccine (i.e. not Sinpharm / Sinovac, but with Pfizer, Moderna - vaccines of >90% efficacy) 

 

- Non vaccinated individuals (with out a medical certificate that they have a vaccine allergy etc) still quarantine (thats their choice). 

 

 

 

 

Correct, perfect said????