18 hours ago, Leaver said:

 

I agree, it's a popular place. I would say the climate, the freedom (lawlessness) cheap alcohol, meals and accommodation, plus the abundance of affordable prostitutes makes it popular. 

 

I was merely pointing out that there is a higher cost to mongers than just the 1000 baht for the hour.  They have to include flights, accommodation etc etc.  

Yes, and it was still worth it, and if I only wanted an hour I'd have stayed home.

On 10/18/2021 at 11:40 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

Yes, and it was still worth it, and if I only wanted an hour I'd have stayed home.

Mongers were in decline here, season on season, pre covid.   If they weren't staying home, where were they going?   

Will be boring. Anyone looking for excitement after 9pm can take a stroll down to Beach Rd and get in a fight with some ladyboys high on meth as they knock you over the head with a brick.

 

Ah, the good old days... where did they go...

16 hours ago, Leaver said:

Mongers were in decline here, season on season, pre covid.   If they weren't staying home, where were they going?   

Better looking girls on internet, and cost nothing, unless on a pay site. Mrs Palmer is free too.

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Better looking girls on internet, and cost nothing,

Sure, but establishments such as restaurants, nightclubs, live music venues etc were also quiet for mongers, pre covid.  

 

If they didn't come back to Pattaya pre covid, why would they come back to Pattaya post covid?  

16 hours ago, Leaver said:

Sure, but establishments such as restaurants, nightclubs, live music venues etc were also quiet for mongers, pre covid.  

 

If they didn't come back to Pattaya pre covid, why would they come back to Pattaya post covid?  

Ah, I answered " If they weren't staying home, where were they going?" wrongly.

I don't know where they went- perhaps the Phillippines.

 

To answer the above quote, Pattaya just wasn't fun anymore before corona, and I think the mongers didn't think it worth the cost of flights just to sit in a grotty bar beer with bored girls more interested in their phones than them.

If they didn't even come to Pattaya, they obviously wouldn't be in the restaurants etc.

On 10/25/2021 at 9:59 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

I don't know where they went- perhaps the Phillippines.

 

Up 32.8%, pre covid, on the same time the previous year.

 

https://vietnamtourism.gov.vn/english/index.php/statistic/international?txtkey=&year=2020&period=t1

 

On 10/25/2021 at 9:59 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

To answer the above quote, Pattaya just wasn't fun anymore before corona, and I think the mongers didn't think it worth the cost of flights just to sit in a grotty bar beer with bored girls more interested in their phones than them.

If they didn't even come to Pattaya, they obviously wouldn't be in the restaurants etc.

 

I tend to agree. 

 

It's possible that Pattaya, mainly through greedy Thai landlords with high rents, has pushed the market prices past what the majority of people are prepared to pay, or can afford. 

 

As I have said in the past, when Pattaya / Thailand was cheap and nasty, tourists could look past the nasty because it was cheap. 

 

Now, it's not so cheap, but the nasty still remains, it no longer represents a value for money holiday. 

 

So what does Thailand do, pump up the numbers with zero baht Chinese tourists.   

 

Who knows were Pattaya / Thailand tourism will be 5 after covid, but I don't think it will look pretty.