Thailand sets out seven conditions for foreign arrivals without quarantine

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

1 hour ago, Jeffr2 said:

Why not require insurance while here? Quite frequently, foreigners end up in the hospital here and can't pay.

WHY not require insurance? because no country in the world require insurance from tourists!

so if thailand want to stay competetive, it has to be so.

and it does not mattar for the "foreigners who don't pay". if they

do not pay they do not get treated. that simple. that is what all the world is doing.

 

[SCOTT FITZGERSLD]

1 hour ago, Billybaroo said:

The Pass should work the same as the COE. 

i applied to LINEPAY service two months ago. they asked me to upload my passport foto and face foto.

than i was waiting for their approval. no result, called their call center.

had to hear 200 times a message saying : SORRY BUT WE WILL BE CLOSED FROM JULY

3 TO JULY 5 FOR BLAH BLAH...but now it is october....so expect same same with the computer pass.

i am sure it is going to be one hell of a mess.

[scorecard]

19 hours ago, bunnydrops said:

50000 US insurance. Is that a step down from the 100,000 covid insurance or full coverage bought in Thailand?

No mention of hotel lockup.

Anutin already mentioned that arrivals will be transported from the airport to the location for their swab test in limousines.

 

Who will pay for the limousine and who pays for the swab test? One guess?

 

Transport from swab test location to pre-booked / approved hotel and who pays? One guess? 

Edited October 21, 2021 by scorecard

[ukrules]

33 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Number 1 is not a good start for the UK.

 

"The Saj" indicated 100,000 new infections per day, possibly, this winter.

They say there's 50k a day right now, that's definitely nothing near the actual number of infections, they know it, everyone knows it.

 

Apart from the kids who are force tested most people are ignoring it. It's treated as a cold unless you get really ill - which is how it happens when you have an actual cold which makes you really ill and you end up in hospital.

 

[TooMuchTime]

2 minutes ago, ukrules said:

They say there's 50k a day right now, that's definitely nothing near the actual number of infections, they know it, everyone knows it.

 

Apart from the kids who are force tested most people are ignoring it. It's treated as a cold unless you get really ill - which is how it happens when you have an actual cold which makes you really ill and you end up in hospital.

 

What rate are people in each age group being hospitalized or dying?

 

I will give you a hint,  it is very low for those under 50.  Extremely rare under 20.

 

Old people had enough time to get the vaccine if they choose to.  Time to move on and get back to normal.  I am sure all the people who lost their job/business are tired of "protecting" those who had more than enough time to get the vaccine.

[KhaoYai]

6 hours ago, dougiemac52 said:

Why have you got to have a PCR test on arrival. Don't the thai government realise that this is just overkill !

Don't tell them that or we'll be back to 7 days quarantine.  I suspect its their way of checking if you picked anything up whilst travelling - which is entirely possible when passing through hubs and sitting tightly packed in an aluminium tube for 12 hours.  What they don't seem to have clicked on is the incubation period, I believe its 2 -3 days before any infection shows up - symptoms come later.

 

I don't understand any of it to be honest - given the low numbers of fully vaccinated Thai citizens, it should be the tourists who are worried.

[DoctorB]

1 hour ago, Billybaroo said:

  Maybe, maybe not. It depends on if the hotel booking is used to confirm the PCR test after entry OR is used to boost tourism and as a consequence your entire stay has to be documented with proof of hotel stays. One thing to keep in mind, is that most condo owners are not tourists and would arrive on long-stay or resident visas. My question still is, if my stay is in a serviced apartment or condo, which I have reservations for and normally do, does the entry rule of "hotel bookings" imply that I cannot stay in anything other the "hotels" during my stay? 

This the restriction that bugs me. I usually come for 90 days, booking into a hotel for 3 nights online first to get sorted. Then I look for a long term place. But this requires room inspection and face to face negotiation to get a good price. I would be very reluctant to book anything long-term on the basis of an online entry. A friend advised that the thing to do is make several successive bookings to cover the whole period, but make sure they all allow free cancellation; but what a farce. It really does look as though Thailand is determined to kill off the old free and footloose tourism; everything now has to be micro-managed.

[KhaoYai]

3 hours ago, kimamey said:

I assume the hotel is needed while you wait for the PCR result.

Maybe I worry too much but note: it says bookings in Thailand - emphasis in the s.  At the moment I'm reading that as for your entire stay.  I just hope the final details take account of those with homes in Thailand.

[tomyami]

Spring 2022, feel sorry for anyone who has to go b4 have friends over their even there apt is being watch for visitors

[KhaoYai]

I give up - if this is correct its all a load of rubbish. Blue zones?  This wasn't mentioned before - the original announcment said Thailand was ready to open with NO QUARANTINE. I think I might have been a bit hasty with my booking. Let's see what he confirms.

 

 

https://thepattayanews.com/2021/10/21/thai-prime-minister-to-consider-full-details-of-country-reopening-plan-at-ccsa-general-meeting-on-friday/

 

 

[Swiss1960]

3 hours ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

they give the world a discount. don't you get it? millions of people all over the world

are now reading it and cheer YEEEHHHH, THAILAND GAVE US A LOWER INSURANCE REQUIREMENT !!

BUT seriously, i want to ask for how long the insurance has to be valid?

say i have a non-O visa for another 8 months, but also carry a passport that allow

me visa exempt. can i buy insurance only for , say, 30 days, or will the thai embassy / computer/ IO will tell me: NO YOU MUST HAVE INSURANCE FOR 9 MONTHS ??

Your problem would not be the insurance, but the loss of the non-O visa... you left the country and got stamped out with a re-entry permit. You enter the country with another passport on a visa exempt, therefore you do not have a re-entry stamp on your non-O visa and therefore, this visa is not valid. You will save few bucks on the insurance, but lose your visa.

[Swiss1960]

1 hour ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

WHY not require insurance? because no country in the world require insurance from tourists!

so if thailand want to stay competetive, it has to be so.

and it does not mattar for the "foreigners who don't pay". if they

do not pay they do not get treated. that simple. that is what all the world is doing.

 

completely untrue! My Thai wife MUST have a travel health insurance, when she applies for a Shengen Visa! No Thai will get a Shengen Visa without a health insurance THAT MUST BE BOUGHT FROM AN EU-ACCEPTED INSURANCE COMPANY!

 

And that is a requirement that obviously works both ways and it is not wrong. Thai government agencies just make it more complicated than it has to be.

[DoctorB]

11 hours ago, Dont confuse me said:

The UK has experienced 40,000 new cases a day for the past 8 days, many infected are people who have received 2 jabs!

On the plus side it appears that the vaccine is working as there are significantly fewer deaths.

Does Thailand really want these peoples money that bad?

This pandemic is going to drag on well into 2022 because understandably people want to get back to some normality and are ignoring advice and taking short cuts and jumping the gun.

Write this year off get things in place and open early next year.

 

Why would next year be any different? It's been 2 years now and while vaccination has significantly reduced the death rate nothing else has really changed. Infection rates show no sign of improvement anywhere that allows any half reasonable form of socialising. It's not going away. Repeatedly kicking the can down the road will achieve nothing.

[Swiss1960]

requirements are out. 46 countries on the list. Found attached pic with the requirements on the Facebook site of the Thai government. One night reservation at SHA+ or AQ hotel is required for fully vaccinated people from these countries

[kimamey]

1 hour ago, KhaoYai said:

Maybe I worry too much but note: it says bookings in Thailand - emphasis in the s.  At the moment I'm reading that as for your entire stay.  I just hope the final details take account of those with homes in Thailand.

I hadn't noticed that. My guess is that the plural isn't that important and is basically part of the requirements when you come as a tourist as they always want to know where you're staying. However it's never easy to know for sure

[fusion58]

Is the $55K of insurance they're asking for covid-19 insurance?

[it is what it is]

22 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

Not much detailed info at this point.  My belief is every person who enters the country in the future will be required to have some type of travel or other medical coverage.

 

for sure, the government have been trying to achieve this for years

[Puccini]

2 hours ago, tomyami said:

Spring 2022, feel sorry for anyone who has to go b4...

I will go b7 or perhaps much later, b23.

 

 

[DonniePeverley]

6 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

Don't tell them that or we'll be back to 7 days quarantine.  I suspect its their way of checking if you picked anything up whilst travelling - which is entirely possible when passing through hubs and sitting tightly packed in an aluminium tube for 12 hours.  What they don't seem to have clicked on is the incubation period, I believe its 2 -3 days before any infection shows up - symptoms come later.

 

I don't understand any of it to be honest - given the low numbers of fully vaccinated Thai citizens, it should be the tourists who are worried.

 

It's all about mitigating risks of more virus entering the country. Of course it's a falacy as the virus is already in heavy circulation around Thailand now. 

 

However, because they may want to appease a frightened population, or just appeasing appeasing some in the government to do this test on arrival. This will definatley pick up some cases. 

 

Along with vetting those who tested positive before they leave (thus infecting passengers on their plane), you build up some measures to reduce numbers. 

 

There's also the concern that many PCR tests before departure will be fake - especially from India. So carrying out a test on arrival will give an accurate assesment. 

 

I also don't know if Thailand is doing gene sequencing, but the tests on arrivals can also pick up new variations. 

[gk10012001]

On 10/20/2021 at 4:04 PM, kevin612 said:

I rather stay at home in November and observe what will happen and make my decision on December.

I tool another contract job instead of just sitting around with fingers crosses for some common sense from the Thai officials.  That extra PCR test on arrival is a deal breaker for me.  I am vaccinated.  I will have a negative test before even getting on the airplane to Thailand.  I don't trust open ended contracts, stay in hotel until result is received, etc.  What if the result is lost, takes days, etc.?  Who ya gonna call.. ghost busters?  And that even assumes they do the test proper and not ding you with a false positive.  Being vaccinated and tested negative prior to arrival should be it. 

[jacko45k]

13 hours ago, Cherrytreeview said:

Of course if you live in Nakon Nowhere this might not matter but to be honest you would have run out of money years ago anyway.

That may well be the fall back option for many currently living in say Pattaya. 

[michaelgoulden]

Does anybody know of a hotel near to Bangkok Suvarnabhumi airport that can do a pt-pcr test and you can stay for the one day? And if you book for longer (7 day stay ) can check out earlier and get a refund. If your pt-pcr test is negative   This is my burning question. I have a flight booked for 1st of Nov. I can cancel without any problem only 2 hours notice. I don't think this hotel exist.

So who is coming on the 1st Nov. Unless somebody can tell me different, and if the Thai government invent the new app fully working. I really don't think this is going to happen. 

 

[KhaoYai]

1 hour ago, DonniePeverley said:

It's all about mitigating risks of more virus entering the country. Of course it's a falacy as the virus is already in heavy circulation around Thailand now. 

And that's precisely why I don't understand any of it.

[KhaoYai]

4 hours ago, it is what it is said:

for sure, the government have been trying to achieve this for years

Yep, they want risk free tourism - all of the cash, none of the risk.

 

I can understand it to some extent during this pandemic but I agree, its their aim in all circumstances for the future. They clearly have no comprehension of geese that lay golden eggs.

[Jeffr2]

7 hours ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

WHY not require insurance? because no country in the world require insurance from tourists!

so if thailand want to stay competetive, it has to be so.

and it does not mattar for the "foreigners who don't pay". if they

do not pay they do not get treated. that simple. that is what all the world is doing.

 

I guess you've missed all the go fund me posts here over the years?

 

Now, many countries are requiring insurance due to covid. Many.

[Jeffr2]

5 hours ago, fusion58 said:

Is the $55K of insurance they're asking for covid-19 insurance?

It has to also cover covid .

[fusion58]

3 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

It has to also cover covid .

I already purchased the $100K policy which was required previously.

 

Will that satisfy them, I wonder?

[peter zwart]

Will this all stand??? Infection rates all over the world are going up again. Even with a vaccin you can have Covid and pass it on. So i really wondering if this all will stand untill december.

[bkk6060]

2 hours ago, gk10012001 said:

I tool another contract job instead of just sitting around with fingers crosses for some common sense from the Thai officials.  That extra PCR test on arrival is a deal breaker for me.  

So sorry you won't be coming.  Have you been keeping up on arrival news the past 18 months?

A share of people have arrive in BKK or the Sandbox and tested positive after getting their negative test prior.  A lot can happen within the 72 hour window, seems very naive to think it cannot.

 

[ThailandRyan]

I now see that the Transport Minister has now added to the consternation of many by announcing he would like all Domestic tourists held to the same standards as international travelers as far as being vaccinated and testing via PCR test before traveling by air and train here in Thailand.  I thought you already needed a test to fly whether or not you were vaccinated, at least some air carriers were requiring it.