All of it?

Some of it?

None of it?....you'd spend eternity in hel_l instead of destroying one work of art?

Just wondering.

hmmm.

ALL OF IT - WITHOUT A SECOND THOUGHT!

Destroying art & literature is an act of sacrilege. How can you save your soul by committing an act of sacrilege? The question is moot.

all of it. I'd sacrifice you lot too, while I'm at it.

I guess we cound all go back to the Stone Age, grunt, sit on rocks, wear hunks of untanned fur, eat with a stick maybe, drink from our hands. Hunting with rocks for the guys, gathering berries and watching Oprah for the girls. And no manners, marriage, or mores; death by rock to back of the head as determined by Ug or Thug. No sick or aged. And no pictographs or petroglyphs showing the way to the pub.

I guess we cound all go back to the Stone Age, grunt, sit on rocks, wear hunks of untanned fur, eat with a stick maybe, drink from our hands. Hunting with rocks for the guys, gathering berries and watching Oprah for the girls. And no manners, marriage, or mores; death by rock to back of the head as determined by Ug or Thug. No sick or aged. And no pictographs or petroglyphs showing the way to the pub.

We like to call this place America, thank you very much.

I guess we cound all go back to the Stone Age, grunt, sit on rocks, wear hunks of untanned fur, eat with a stick maybe, drink from our hands. Hunting with rocks for the guys, gathering berries and watching Oprah for the girls. And no manners, marriage, or mores; death by rock to back of the head as determined by Ug or Thug. No sick or aged. And no pictographs or petroglyphs showing the way to the pub.

We like to call this place America, thank you very much.

I been to Mesa Verde. Too many tourists. We could go to Chaco Canyon...

I guess we cound all go back to the Stone Age, grunt, sit on rocks, wear hunks of untanned fur, eat with a stick maybe, drink from our hands. Hunting with rocks for the guys, gathering berries and watching Oprah for the girls. And no manners, marriage, or mores; death by rock to back of the head as determined by Ug or Thug. No sick or aged. And no pictographs or petroglyphs showing the way to the pub.

We like to call this place America, thank you very much.

I been to Mesa Verde. Too many tourists. We could go to Chaco Canyon...

Do they have a pub there?

I guess we cound all go back to the Stone Age, grunt, sit on rocks, wear hunks of untanned fur, eat with a stick maybe, drink from our hands. Hunting with rocks for the guys, gathering berries and watching Oprah for the girls. And no manners, marriage, or mores; death by rock to back of the head as determined by Ug or Thug. No sick or aged. And no pictographs or petroglyphs showing the way to the pub.

We like to call this place America, thank you very much.

I been to Mesa Verde. Too many tourists. We could go to Chaco Canyon...

Do they have a pub there?

No, but there's a trading post just up the road; mostly whisky I think, judging from the labels on empty bottles at the Chaco turnoff.

I guess we cound all go back to the Stone Age, grunt, sit on rocks, wear hunks of untanned fur, eat with a stick maybe, drink from our hands. Hunting with rocks for the guys, gathering berries and watching Oprah for the girls. And no manners, marriage, or mores; death by rock to back of the head as determined by Ug or Thug. No sick or aged. And no pictographs or petroglyphs showing the way to the pub.

We like to call this place America, thank you very much.

I been to Mesa Verde. Too many tourists. We could go to Chaco Canyon...

Do they have a pub there?

No, but there's a trading post just up the road; mostly whisky I think, judging from the labels on empty bottles at the Chaco turnoff.

How much whisky can you get there for a broken American Dream?

Back on topic.

There was a stack of bricks in the Tate that would have been put to much better use by building something with them, there was also a dead sheep in a tank of formaldehyde that would have served far better as someone's lunch, or many people's lunches for that matter.

Art these days has as much resemblance to skilfully crafted works as the Eurovision Song Contest does to music.

Back on topic.

There was a stack of bricks in the Tate that would have been put to much better use by building something with them, there was also a dead sheep in a tank of formaldehyde that would have served far better as someone's lunch, or many people's lunches for that matter.

Art these days has as much resemblance to skilfully crafted works as the Eurovision Song Contest does to music.

Mmmm, take your point there, Thaddy. I was thinking of "real" art - sorry, I don't consider that narcissistic crud to be art. An unmade bed, <deleted>? An American flag sticking out of a toilet bowl in a mock jail cell? IMO, that stuff is pure sensationalism, designed purely to be controversial. That stuff I would be more than willing to destroy, for pretty much any reason, never mind to save my soul

jet gorgon dodges the question

Back on topic.

There was a stack of bricks in the Tate that would have been put to much better use by building something with them, there was also a dead sheep in a tank of formaldehyde that would have served far better as someone's lunch, or many people's lunches for that matter.

Art these days has as much resemblance to skilfully crafted works as the Eurovision Song Contest does to music.

I saw a brick unload exhibit like that at the old Tate, in front of the poorly painted David Hockney swimming pool painting (lazy wanklette used masking tape to get his line and never retouched the area that the tape stripped off). Waste of spaceola.

My other peeve is the installation art gang. Like what's that, seven piles of bits that looks like my laundry floor when I'm sorting the weekly washing. Or the chick who stayed in bed for how long as a viewing object? FO.

jet gorgon dodges the question

Hey! I didn't see it, OK? Chownah, you got PMT this week or what?

How much whisky can you get there for a broken American dream?

Well, the Indians had dreams, I'm sure, but they were not American. So, I guess they use whisky to dull American reality.

I was thinking of "real" art - sorry, I don't consider that narcissistic crud to be art.

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Humans have been creating art since prehistoric times,each culture and historic time seems to have its own definition of what art is.

jet gorgon dodges the question

Hey! I didn't see it, OK? Chownah, you got PMT this week or what?

How much whisky can you get there for a broken American dream?

Well, the Indians had dreams, I'm sure, but they were not American. So, I guess they use whisky to dull American reality.

Just because I made the observation that you are dodging the question which is the topic of this thread doesn't mean I'm on mood enhancer!!!! You really haven't addressed the question...how much would you destroy to save your soul....or else I missed your answer...if so please inform of the post number and I'll go check it out.

I'd like to be able to say something really sort of noble like "my soul would not be worth the destruction of man's artworks........blah, blah, blah" but no, 'fraid it's gonna be "shove the whole bluddy lot in the incinerator and get me back to the pub".

Miss Gargantuan, Chownah's right, you've not answered...

Trepidation, TLW.

Miss Gargantuan, Chownah's right, you've not answered...

Trepidation, TLW.

Hey oilaphant not only the wrong thread but you nicked my tlw! Plagiarism is what I call it, but what was the question?

Shakepeare by sms "2 b or no 2 b tht is teh kwestun". Would people be so keen on Will boy's outpourings if he wrote them today in such a form? Would people today even give his works the time of day if they were fresh off the keyboard?

Crikes. It's in my first reply. NOOOOO. You destroy art and there goes civilization, because art comes with civilization. Wanklettes. (I'm cranky because my laptop died, two wks to fix it, and I had to buy a new system today and configure it and all that).

What....destroy art to save my soul?

Art IS my soul....how can I save my soul by destroying my soul?

I'm joking.

What....destroy art to save my soul?

Art IS my soul....how can I save my soul by destroying my soul?

I'm joking.

You always are.

Dude, were shakespeares works written in modern day SMS lingo, people might re-evaluate their misguided, and "educationally" prejudiced opinion of him.

Nah, on this one, let me very clear. I'm with Blackadder. Bill Shakey is a <deleted>.

Didn't know that Shakespeare was a member of bedlam, never mind that he'd stated his allegiance for BSB's adversary. Hmm, learn something new every day.

What is wrong with Shakespeare? Unlike some modern writers, he didn't write with the self-image of himself as some literary giant. He wrote to sell. Let's not forget that plays were the Tudor equivalent of our tv or cinema. He wrote to entertain the masses & be commercial. And he was very good at it. If you disagree with generations of literature teachers to make him into one of the greatest writers ever produced, that's one thing. But then your beef is with them, not him. Shakespeare was good at what he did, he has lasting appeal. The themes in his plays are still being used today, they're universal. Possibly he plagiarised others, but many popular entertainers do.

Leave our Bill alone. I like him!

"Bill, I love you so, I always will..."

That was a good song.

During my formative years at school I really detested English Lit classes....... take a book, any great work of literature and dissect it, mince it, put it under the microscope, analyse it and try to work out what the author was thinking about....... that completely ruined the deal for me.

It was only years later that I picked up a copy of "A Midsummer Nights Dream" and read it just for pleasure, within a few months I had read everything that Bill had written and thoroughly enjoyed most of them.

Art, be it sculpted, painted or written should not be put under the magnifying glass, you are meant to stand back and enjoy the big picture...... if you need to analyse it, it isn't art, it's just pretentious twaddle.

I no longer have a soul, so I will leave the work of ARTS alone. (kidding....)

Didn't know that Shakespeare was a member of bedlam, never mind that he'd stated his allegiance for BSB's adversary. Hmm, learn something new every day.

What is wrong with Shakespeare? Unlike some modern writers, he didn't write with the self-image of himself as some literary giant. He wrote to sell. Let's not forget that plays were the Tudor equivalent of our tv or cinema. He wrote to entertain the masses & be commercial. And he was very good at it. If you disagree with generations of literature teachers to make him into one of the greatest writers ever produced, that's one thing. But then your beef is with them, not him. Shakespeare was good at what he did, he has lasting appeal. The themes in his plays are still being used today, they're universal. Possibly he plagiarised others, but many popular entertainers do.

Leave our Bill alone. I like him!

alright alright alright!!! Back off!!! I'll take it up with SPielberg...