Popular Post The Hammer2021 Posted October 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2021 Would you trust a business that 'only' has a Facebook page and not a proper website? I don't. It shows a lack of professionalism and ignores the fact that many people just don't like, want, need or use Facebook. 7 1 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianBlessing Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 I suppose I would be apprehensive. Ideally a business would have both a Facebook presence to drive traffic to a web page. Interestingly, in the US, over 10% of small businesses have no website. That said, if the business is not doing online merchandising, it might consider a website less than useful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post vinny41 Posted October 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2021 Majority of small businesses in Thailand only have a Facebook page, easier to create and maintain and update and doesn't require expensive IT support to maintain and update on their timeline not the business owners timeline, that and expensive hosting and domain name fees. For people that choose to not use businesses that have a facebook presence only that their choice but in doing so they have to understand they might not be getting the best deal that is available. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted October 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2021 The way I understand it Thai businesses do what Thai people do. Lots of information only on fb. And often communication only with LINE. Because somehow some people think everybody likes to use fb and LINE all the time. Can you trust them? I think having a real website does not make a difference about trust. I think the question should be: Can you communicate with them the way you want? Do they give you competent answers without waiting for too long? If yes then don't worry too much about a website. 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ukrules Posted October 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2021 You're going about it the wrong way....trust nobody. 8 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad3000 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) No! In fact, wife was scammed on a sim sales promotion. All those online Line alcoholic beverage sales are scam sites. Don't. Buy Shopee or Lazada. Edited October 30, 2021 by Chad3000 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chad3000 Posted October 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2021 42 minutes ago, vinny41 said: easier to create and maintain and update Easier to close, cut and run. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodknock Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 with out web site, no interest it is a shame as the Thia. government uses facebook and line often. found it hard with covid-19 using line to get vaccination proof. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, Chad3000 said: Easier to close, cut and run. I think you will find websites are Easier to close, cut and run. How to Determine if a Website is a Fake, Fraud or Scam – updated for 2020 https://blog.webnames.ca/how-to-determine-if-a-website-is-a-fake-fraud-or-scam/ Many websites have no contact details , no address or if a address is listed it turns out to moorland in the middle of nowhere Regardless if a business operates on a website only operation or a facebook page operation due diligence is required If they are offering a product 50% lower than everyone else or a product that only they have stock no they have no feedback be aware 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad3000 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 17 minutes ago, vinny41 said: I think you will find websites are Easier to close, cut and run. How to Determine if a Website is a Fake, Fraud or Scam – updated for 2020 https://blog.webnames.ca/how-to-determine-if-a-website-is-a-fake-fraud-or-scam/ Many websites have no contact details , no address or if a address is listed it turns out to moorland in the middle of nowhere Regardless if a business operates on a website only operation or a facebook page operation due diligence is required If they are offering a product 50% lower than everyone else or a product that only they have stock no they have no feedback be aware Due diligence lol. TBH I buy very little online. I press my wife to do the same. Simple, low cost, unbranded purchases. The scams, counterfeiting and outright theft all quite common here. Thai government now putting up an office to monitor. It will be worthless but they're waking up to the problems. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, Chad3000 said: Due diligence lol. TBH I buy very little online. I press my wife to do the same. Simple, low cost, unbranded purchases. The scams, counterfeiting and outright theft all quite common here. Thai government now putting up an office to monitor. It will be worthless but they're waking up to the problems. scams occur worldwide not just exclusively to Thailand, many times I have seen listings on a well known US/UK website where the seller is selling a phone at an unbelievable low starting price and you see lots of people bidding on those items , it only when you read the listing in detail and you find out their not selling a phone , their selling the box of the phone. Over here on well known sales sites if no feedback, doesn't accept COD or has few followers or has only created their selling page 10 days ago are all warning signs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Rice Balls Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 1 hour ago, OneMoreFarang said: The way I understand it Thai businesses do what Thai people do. Lots of information only on fb. And often communication only with LINE. Because somehow some people think everybody likes to use fb and LINE all the time. and google translate if perfect for communication and supporting a lasting relationship I actually sat in a Big C food court and tried to explain VIA her phone that this concept would not work...she did give me a small tin elephant tho.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisP24 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Depends on the business. Lots of small or family sideline business just have a facebook page and not a proper website, because they understand facebook better and can get information across more easily, while also connecting to customers' facebook accounts for future communications (marketing) if they are thinking ahead. It's a step up from buying from someone with just a craigslist ad or similar. But I would not buy anything of much value online (where they ship the product) from someone with just a facebook page. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JensenZ Posted October 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2021 I hate Facebook and trying to navigate on Facebook pages to find information on businesses. The problem is more with the people who use Facebook for their business. They do it badly and don't communicate well. That's not a Facebook problem, but how people use it. Maybe it's still a big avenue in Thailand, but I've noticed a falling off in using Facebook for business in Western nations and a large number of people don't update often these days. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gargamon Posted October 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2021 Haven't you heard? It's not called Facebook anymore. It is now Meta. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soi3eddie Posted October 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2021 (edited) Often, a Thai business (mostly restaurants or bars) will only have a Facebook page as their online presence. As a potential customer I would like to see what they offer but not if it means having to have Facebook and be forced to log in to view their property/service. Why can't these places have a simple website (pictures, text, menus, prices, contact or booking page)? It often loses them my business as I move on to another establishment that has a regular website. Edited October 30, 2021 by soi3eddie 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scubascuba3 Posted October 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2021 I buy from a thai company that just uses Facebook and Line for sales, you can see they have 10s of 1000s of likes, also you buy cash on delivery, so yes I would trust some companies after basic checks. Websites are often out of date so can't trust them 100% 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JensenZ Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 26 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: I buy from a thai company that just uses Facebook and Line for sales, you can see they have 10s of 1000s of likes, also you buy cash on delivery, so yes I would trust some companies after basic checks. Websites are often out of date so can't trust them 100% I'm a big buyer of stuff online. Pretty much every week of my life I buy at least something online. I have never bought anything from a business based on Facebook. I wonder what I'm missing out on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 40 minutes ago, JensenZ said: I'm a big buyer of stuff online. Pretty much every week of my life I buy at least something online. I have never bought anything from a business based on Facebook. I wonder what I'm missing out on? Some buyers seem to be avoiding lazada and Shopee to avoid fees presumably, the seller i use is cheaper on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I cant recall the last time I used a business with a stand alone website, that model doesn't really exist nowadays. Business's have a page, shop etc on shopping sites, Lazada, Amazon. Hotels have a listing on booking sites, airlines on travel sites etc. Business's advertise on social media, FB, insta, youtube etc, then they direct you to their online retailer page. Nowadays websites are more for customer service, warranty, user guides, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven100 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 hours ago, gargamon said: Haven't you heard? It's not called Facebook anymore. It is now Meta. yes ..... and hopefully this will be the crash of Meta or facebook or whatever it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrunchWrapSupreme Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Most bars and pubs, here in the LOS and back in the States, have only a FB page. I have to go to them to find out if they're open or having any special events. I can't stand FB either, and have to keep shutting that annoying pop up telling me to register. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nojohndoe Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 4 hours ago, gargamon said: Haven't you heard? It's not called Facebook anymore. It is now Meta. Not really. Only the parent company . Facebook and all the other associated distractions from reality will keep their names. Meta as in Metaburg(lar) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante99 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) Enjoy your day. Edited October 31, 2021 by Dante99 duplicate information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JensenZ Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said: Some buyers seem to be avoiding lazada and Shopee to avoid fees presumably, the seller i use is cheaper on Facebook Shipping fees? As far as prices are concerned, there's usually a huge selection to shift through, at many price levels. I use Lazada a lot, and AliExpress if the prices are too high, usually with free shipping to Thailand, but a longer wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 hours ago, JensenZ said: Shipping fees? As far as prices are concerned, there's usually a huge selection to shift through, at many price levels. I use Lazada a lot, and AliExpress if the prices are too high, usually with free shipping to Thailand, but a longer wait. The sellers I'm referring to are usually sponsored ads on Facebook, so they pop up, I didn't find them on marketplace. I found that another retailer was selling on Lazada at a mark up plus was out of stock, then i stumbled on the actual manufacturer. Postage is either included if you buy 2 items or 60 baht from memory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JensenZ Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: The sellers I'm referring to are usually sponsored ads on Facebook, so they pop up, I didn't find them on marketplace. I found that another retailer was selling on Lazada at a mark up plus was out of stock, then i stumbled on the actual manufacturer. Postage is either included if you buy 2 items or 60 baht from memory I'm not often on Facebook and I have an add blocker. If I'm looking for an expensive item, I shop around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) I buy from Facebook pages, cash transfer to their account. Never had a problem ......... so far. Not from sponsored ADs though, they all look like scammers to me. Edited October 31, 2021 by BritManToo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 11 hours ago, vinny41 said: Majority of small businesses in Thailand only have a Facebook page, easier to create and maintain and update and doesn't require expensive IT support to maintain and update on their timeline not the business owners timeline, that and expensive hosting and domain name fees. For people that choose to not use businesses that have a facebook presence only that their choice but in doing so they have to understand they might not be getting the best deal that is available. A basic professional looking website can be done for about 7k baht and requires no maintenance except renewing domain name every two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hammer2021 Posted October 31, 2021 Author Share Posted October 31, 2021 32 minutes ago, BritManToo said: I buy from Facebook pages, cash transfer to their account. Never had a problem ......... so far. Not from sponsored ADs though, they all look like scammers to me. It's not a matter of fraud/ dishonesty/ distrust to me but distrust of the companies' lack of professionalism. By all means companies can have an FB page and Instagram and Twitter but these are also time wasting toys. FB is rapidly being deserted by many people. I feel a business, out of respect for potential customers should have a real web site accessible to all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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