Thailand Pass Is Up And Running

[Destined]

7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Additional point: 

 

When making the application via the ‘Alternate Quarantine’ tab - the QR code links to the vaccine information and states ‘Alternative Quarantine’  (as above - in Orange) - rather than ‘Test & Go’.... 

 

Could be a ‘sticking point’ but at least it gets us past check in and into Thailand, other issues can be handled on the other side. 

 

Crucially where are you from? As EU certificates are already getting instant accepted in most cases.

If you're not from EU though then that could be something. If it gets to a day before my flight I'd rather have the AQ pass than none at all.

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

This worked - Success..... 

 

Instead of filling out from the link of left most of the 3 sections [Exemption from Quarantine - Test and Go] (see screenshot below), I filled out the link of right most of the 3 sections [Alternative Quarantine] as you suggested flyguyryan...   

 

But, I didn’t use a 10 day quarantine booking. I just filled out the application exactly as I had all the other times (about 10x !).

 

I put in all my Vaccine Certificates & QR Codes (from Qatar), Put in the 1 night AQ hotel booking confirmation, Insurance Cert - submitted and received immediate conformation followed a few seconds later by Approval and the QR Code. 

 

 

The only single difference between this time and all the other times I’ve tried was was simply clicking on the [Alternative Quarantine] tab instead of the [Exemption from....] tab followed on from.

 

 

Immediately afterwards I re-submitted the application in exactly the same way and clicked on the [Alternative Quarantine] tab, input all the information in exactly the same way as every other submission (i.e. all the same info and attachments as previous submissions). Success again, received a QR code for both Wife and Son immediately afterwards. 

 

 

Recommendation: 

I’m not sure if this will work for others: But its definitely worth a try: 

Re-attempt submissions in exactly the same manner but go through the [Alternative Quarantine] tab.

 

Details: 

Mac Computer / Chrome Browser (No CORS override - that issue seems to have been fixed)

Vaccine Cert from both Qatar and Thailand worked (both had QR codes) (no vaccine cert for Son)

iCloud and G-mail e-mail accounts received the confirmation email and immediately after the approval e-mail. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This worked for me. No, I’m not from Europe.

 

I received an instant approval.

[bangkokbonecollector]

14 minutes ago, Destined said:

Crucially where are you from? As EU certificates are already getting instant accepted in most cases.

If you're not from EU though then that could be something. If it gets to a day before my flight I'd rather have the AQ pass than none at all.

I have read of a couple of EU certificates that have not got an instant QR code. I think what this all means is that you have to probably make this application with a good amount of time before you are due to fly out.

[Pepper9187]

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

This worked for me. No, I’m not from Europe.

 

I received an instant approval.

 

Amazing, glad it worked !

[richard_smith237]

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

This worked for me. No, I’m not from Europe.

 

I received an instant approval.

Be cautions though... as the approval is for 'Alternative Quarantine'  rather than 'Test and Go’.

 

So, this isn’t the perfect solution, but to get us past airport check-in, into Thailand and face to face with a human is a great plan B.

 

Once we show vaccine certs and the 1 night booking I really can’t see anyone forcing us to stay longer than 1 nights in an AQ / ASQ. 

 

 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

36 minutes ago, bangkokbonecollector said:

I think in the short space of 5days we cannot truly understand what the problems really are. The point I was trying to make is instead of waiting till the last minute and making loads of applications, that may or may not be clogging up the system, plan ahead and start the application at least 30days in advance of travel. That way you won't do yourself mental damage and you won't clog up the system.

 

I bit difficult to do if travel is on 8th and the Embassy rejected the CoE and told us to use Thailand Pass when it opens on 1st - then it turns out to be a system which doesn’t function. 

 

 

 

 

[Danderman123]

10 minutes ago, bangkokbonecollector said:

I have read of a couple of EU certificates that have not got an instant QR code. I think what this all means is that you have to probably make this application with a good amount of time before you are due to fly out.

I am flying out on the 10th, filled out an application today, and received a QR code.

[bangkokbonecollector]

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

I bit difficult to do if travel is on 8th and the Embassy rejected the CoE and told us to use Thailand Pass when it opens on 1st - then it turns out to be a system which doesn’t function. 

 

 

 

 

Then I would truly advise anyone in that situation to rebook flights, accommodation etc etc probably a pain but I reckon you need to give at least 30days just to be safe.

[bobstl]

How about we try to focus on the matter at hand please ????

 

I'm sure Pepper, Richard, and the Bonecollector are all reasonable people. Bonecollector thinks it's irresponsible to reapply, others disagree.

 

So let's just agree that we all have different opinions on that point and move on ????

[Danderman123]

7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Be cautions though... as the approval is for 'Alternative Quarantine'  rather than 'Test and Go’.

 

So, this isn’t the perfect solution, but to get us past airport check-in, into Thailand and face to face with a human is a great plan B.

 

Once we show vaccine certs and the 1 night booking I really can’t see anyone forcing us to stay longer than 1 nights in an AQ / ASQ. 

 

 

My hotel will be waiting for me at the airport with a van. I have a 24 hour paid reservation, with one RT-PCR test paid for.

 

I am fully vaccinated.

 

There will soon be thousands of people showing up with a similar QR code, this will catch on fast. Let’s hope the computer doesn’t break.

[richard_smith237]

4 minutes ago, bangkokbonecollector said:

I have answered numerous questions and have been helping numerous people on maybe three different threads. Your personal attack over one tongue in cheek comment is ridiculous. Jai yen yen is what I am saying to everyone.

You are correct - Jai yen yen is needed and also very easy to say if you are one of those not impacted by the flaws in the Thai Pass

 

 

4 minutes ago, bangkokbonecollector said:

I think you and pepper are being irresponsible in telling people to make numerous applications with no foresight as to what the ramifications of that might be. ie. extended application waiting times for others.

In the same situation would you make one application and sit cooly by awaiting the QR code when you don’t even receive a conformation e-mail ? - I very much doubt it. 

 

People who are travelling on 8th / 9th / 10th have a very small window in which to receive approval which has not been forthcoming for the past 3 days - meanwhile people are mentioning their success after a few repeat attempts - Irresponsible you say ???? you're out of touch with reality. 

 

 

 

 

[bangkokbonecollector]

4 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

I am flying out on the 10th, filled out an application today, and received a QR code.

As we can see, not everyone is having as much luck as you and not everyone has the technical knowledge or experience to apply for things online, change pdf's to jpegs etc etc so I hardly think it is a stupid suggestion for people to allow themselves 30days to get this all done.

[SFSFSF]

On facebook there is a discussion thread around a thailand support number

for the consular office.  (I talked to my local consulate LA/usa and they could not help).

It was mentioned that folks on the support number will try to help if you depart in the

next day or two, which is now my case.  Has anyone tried calling?

+6625728442

one person on the thread said not helpful, another said they were able receive a TP QR code.

I may call when it opens Thailand day and if that doesn't work, try AQ.  Thanks all for those tips.

 

If I may gently suggest, the root of the problem is not duplicate submissions IMHO...so let's not point fingers at each other here.  Dups are easily resolved with a freshman CS student's database script.  I'm pretty sure the contractors sold the government on a fully automated system, and it looks like it works for the EU where the contractors are from.  Staffing is/was not in place to manually pick up the pieces for the rest of the world.  With this theory, it's going to get worse over time until they program in every vaccine record quirk worldwide, as some folks have noted.  Hope we all soon get a nice Thai massage to heal all the stress.

Edited November 5, 2021 by SFSFSF
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[richard_smith237]

55 minutes ago, Destined said:

Crucially where are you from? As EU certificates are already getting instant accepted in most cases.

If you're not from EU though then that could be something. If it gets to a day before my flight I'd rather have the AQ pass than none at all.

From the UK - Vaccine was administered in Qatar with a Qatar MoPH Vaccine Certificate (it has a QR Code)

Wife from Thailand - Vaccine was administered in Thailand - Mor Promp Certificate (which has a QR code)

 

I think the approval I received was definitely an automated approval based upon selecting the ‘Alternative Quarantine’ avenue of application.

 

 

We’re two days away from travelling to the Airport (hotel over night before an early AM flight) - having a Plan B ‘Alternative Quarantine’ QR Code takes pressure edge off significantly. 

 

 

Hopefully the ‘correct’ approval (Test & Go) will be issued before we depart and then with the benefit of hindsight I will know that I did not have cause for concern - however, 20/20 hindsight is something none of us have the luxury of. 

 

 

 

Edited November 5, 2021 by richard_smith237

[Sandboxer]

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

This worked - Success..... 

 

Instead of filling out from the link of left most of the 3 sections [Exemption from Quarantine - Test and Go] (see screenshot below), I filled out the link of right most of the 3 sections [Alternative Quarantine] as you suggested flyguyryan...   

 

But, I didn’t use a 10 day quarantine booking. I just filled out the application exactly as I had all the other times (about 10x !).

 

I put in all my Vaccine Certificates & QR Codes (from Qatar), Put in the 1 night AQ hotel booking confirmation, Insurance Cert - submitted and received immediate conformation followed a few seconds later by Approval and the QR Code. 

 

 

The only single difference between this time and all the other times I’ve tried was was simply clicking on the [Alternative Quarantine] tab instead of the [Exemption from....] tab followed on from.

 

 

Immediately afterwards I re-submitted the application in exactly the same way and clicked on the [Alternative Quarantine] tab, input all the information in exactly the same way as every other submission (i.e. all the same info and attachments as previous submissions). Success again, received a QR code for both Wife and Son immediately afterwards. 

 

I'll be damned, after trying 8x to do the "Test & Go" submission, I accidentally^^ tried your method and got the approval/QR immediately. At the very least, I'll be able to use this as a backup to at least board the flight while I continue to wait for (and probably submit a few more) Test & Go submissions in the meantime before my flight in a few days. 

 

Worst case scenario, they'll make me purchase and do 10 days q upon arrival, but I'm willing to do that if necessary.

 

Now if thousands more make this mistake^^(wink wink) it can only be to our advantage for obvious reasons. 

 

 

[Danderman123]

The Richard Smith method seems to work 100% of the time in getting a QR code to fly to Thailand.

[Vern1]

6 minutes ago, bangkokbonecollector said:

and maybe it causes massive issues on arrival.

I understand your point and it makes sense but I have a job and I don't have the luxury of changing my trip to 30 days out.

 

Again, your point is valid but I think both of you should stop bickering.

 

I am flying on the 10th so I will keep waiting for my test and go QR code but if it comes down to a day or two before I will definitely try Richard's method. Hopefully if someone is flying soon they can report back as to whether or not this worked for them.

[richard_smith237]

1 hour ago, Vern1 said:

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

This worked - Success..... 

 

Instead of filling out from the link of left most of the 3 sections [Exemption from Quarantine - Test and Go] (see screenshot below), I filled out the link of right most of the 3 sections [Alternative Quarantine] as you suggested flyguyryan...   

 

But, I didn’t use a 10 day quarantine booking. I just filled out the application exactly as I had all the other times (about 10x !).

 

I put in all my Vaccine Certificates & QR Codes (from Qatar), Put in the 1 night AQ hotel booking confirmation, Insurance Cert - submitted and received immediate conformation followed a few seconds later by Approval and the QR Code. 

 

 

The only single difference between this time and all the other times I’ve tried was was simply clicking on the [Alternative Quarantine] tab instead of the [Exemption from....] tab followed on from.

 

 

Immediately afterwards I re-submitted the application in exactly the same way and clicked on the [Alternative Quarantine] tab, input all the information in exactly the same way as every other submission (i.e. all the same info and attachments as previous submissions). Success again, received a QR code for both Wife and Son immediately afterwards. 

 

 

Recommendation: 

I’m not sure if this will work for others: But its definitely worth a try: 

Re-attempt submissions in exactly the same manner but go through the [Alternative Quarantine] tab.

 

Details: 

Mac Computer / Chrome Browser (No CORS override - that issue seems to have been fixed)

Vaccine Cert from both Qatar and Thailand worked (both had QR codes) (no vaccine cert for Son)

iCloud and G-mail e-mail accounts received the confirmation email and immediately after the approval e-mail. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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My concern with this is that they might make you actually quarantine for ten days on arrival. Is your plan to just plead ignorance and say that you intended to submit an application for test and go?

I'm not really concerned about that, but have given thought towards the possibility of encountering the ’cannot’ mentality on arrival and having to deal with a little hassle before sense prevails.

Thus, pleading ignorance would be the Plan B, yes... or blame the machine ! (the computer bug - and just tell them I applied for Test and go !)

 

Plan A is still to receive the ‘correct Thailand Pass / QR code’ but the really is no telling if this would be approved in time. 

 

 

This will be my 4th re-entry into Thailand while its under Emergency Decree (3 entrees with CoE, 2 for ASQ and 1 for sandbox) - When I last entered in to Bangkok (April) there were some changes in policy at the time which meant people were required to quarantine for 7, 10 or 14 days depending on point of origin and vaccination status. 

 

When I entered, my documents were checked and I was given a 10 day stamp on my arrival papers so it seems there is (or was) some ‘discretion’ based upon documentation rather than what the CoE actually said (my CoE at the time had 14 days). 

 

I suspect that when we (family and I) arrive - it will be obvious that we are fully vaccinated and have the 1 night Test & Go package booked - I really can’t see that we’d be forced to quarantine for 10 days having met all the entry requirements.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Sandboxer]

14 minutes ago, bangkokbonecollector said:

and maybe it causes massive issues on arrival.

That's the point.  Forcing a move on their part.

 

While I'm generally a "community oriented, follow the process" kinda guy, I do not have the luxury to be 100% kumbaya in this case due to extremem time pressure. 

 

Let's be honest, at this point it's pretty much every man for himself and any technical means to an end that people discover can only help.

Edited November 5, 2021 by Sandboxer

[Danderman123]

I received confirmation emails for my four prior applications.

 

I don’t expect to receive QR codes for any of them - ever. The fact there is a workaround that allows QR codes to be obtained implies that the Test and Go computer program is broken.

[richard_smith237]

13 minutes ago, bangkokbonecollector said:

23 minutes ago, Sandboxer said:

I'll be damned, after trying 8x to do the "Test & Go" submission, I accidentally^^ tried your method and got the approval/QR immediately. At the very least, I'll be able to use this as a backup to at least board the flight while I continue to wait for (and probably submit a few more) Test & Go submissions in the meantime before my flight in a few days. 

 

Worst case scenario, they'll make me purchase and do 10 days q upon arrival, but I'm willing to do that if necessary.

 

Now if thousands more make this mistake^^(wink wink) it can only be to our advantage for obvious reasons. 

 

 

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and maybe it causes massive issues on arrival.

In the same way you are clogging up this thread ?

 

A Plan B is essential for those who need to travel soon and have not yet received their Thailand Pass approval. 

 

Trial and error (by many who have offered their information) has helped many receive their Thailand Pass approval / QR code - meanwhile your advice to be patient, or book flight later, or apply 30 days in advance is utterly useless for many for a multitude of reasons. 

 

 

The best Plan B is most definitely doing the ‘Alternative Quarantine’ option and at least ensuring entry into Thailand with all the correct paperwork - the more people who have this solution the greater the chance authorities will turn a blind eye to the ‘little mistake’ of selecting the wrong tab (while submitting exactly the same documentation).

 

Note: between the two tabs [Exemption from Quarantine (Test and Go)] and [Alternative Quarantine] there is no difference at all in layout, questions or documents required / submitted.

 

[Twin Peaks]

4 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Note: between the two tabs [Exemption from Quarantine (Test and Go)] and [Alternative Quarantine] there is no difference at all in layout, questions or documents required / submitted.

Were you still required to attach the proof of vaccination?

4 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

 

[Destined]

If you're from one of the eligible countries and are fully vaccinated, you're exempt from quarantine anyway. So it should just be a matter of bring a hard copy as proof of your vaccine certificate when traveling.

 

Looks like a good solution to get the instant AQ Thailand Pass, if you have no other choice and your flight is imminent.

 

There are a few people who have missed flights due to lack of Thailand Pass already and lost money because of non-refundable flights and hotels.

Edited November 5, 2021 by Destined

[bangkokbonecollector]

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

You have completely lost your grasp of reality while continuing with this pathetic virtue signalling. 

 

 

Thailand Pass is not working....  through trial and error a solution has been found, its imperfect, but its a viable plan B. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and you know this how? enough with you seriously, I am not virtue signalling, it is called being a decent member of society and not causing others problems for your own gain.

[Gold ticket]

19 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

In the same way you are clogging up this thread ?

 

A Plan B is essential for those who need to travel soon and have not yet received their Thailand Pass approval. 

 

Trial and error (by many who have offered their information) has helped many receive their Thailand Pass approval / QR code - meanwhile your advice to be patient, or book flight later, or apply 30 days in advance is utterly useless for many for a multitude of reasons. 

 

 

The best Plan B is most definitely doing the ‘Alternative Quarantine’ option and at least ensuring entry into Thailand with all the correct paperwork - the more people who have this solution the greater the chance authorities will turn a blind eye to the ‘little mistake’ of selecting the wrong tab (while submitting exactly the same documentation).

 

Note: between the two tabs [Exemption from Quarantine (Test and Go)] and [Alternative Quarantine] there is no difference at all in layout, questions or documents required / submitted.

 

Appreciating your efforts Richard and am tempted to use your method BUT this involves ticking the box agreeing to 10 days plus 2 tests.

Can we be sure “common sense” will prevail based on the fact we are many?

[Danderman123]

17 minutes ago, Twin Peaks said:

Were you still required to attach the proof of vaccination?

 

Filling out the app is the same, regardless of choosing Alternative Quarantine.

 

Try it, and report back.

[Danderman123]

1 minute ago, Gold ticket said:

Appreciating your efforts Richard and am tempted to use your method BUT this involves ticking the box agreeing to 10 days plus 2 tests.

Can we be sure “common sense” will prevail based on the fact we are many?

The Ministry recommended this approach during the last week of the COE.

 

More to the point, do it, and keep your QR code in your back pocket, in case your other applications never work. 

Edited November 5, 2021 by Danderman123

[club]

Congratulations Thai government for putting the final blow into your re opening plans with this useless Thailand pass. The COE was working  you MORONS. Why change something that is working?

[EJ traveler]

Been following this thread from Nov 1, and it's been very helpful. I thought I'd chime in here and share my experiences in hopes that it helps anyone else in the same boat. I'm based in the US, so my time frame for all this might be shifted slightly as this whole process actually began on the evening of Oct 31 for my time zone (Central Standard Time).

 

Oct 31 (21:00 local CST / 09:00 in BKK) - had lots of trouble and was getting the API error most others were getting in the early hours of program rollout. Never got a successful application in.

Nov 1 - following advice to use CORS plugin and add space after passport number, I finally got a success message on the application process. This was about 4pm local time (which would've been 4am Nov 2 in Thailand). No confirmation email however.

Nov 2 - finally get a welcome/registration email 17 hours after my initial success message (sent to my gmail account). Still no final QR code email.

Nov 3 - After still not getting any QR code for TP, I decide to try again with a different email address. This second application gets a welcome/registration email to my second email within minutes.

Nov 4 (overnight) - During the early morning hours, I receive not one but two TP confirmation emails with QR codes. I checked and they were both valid and active. The first came about 1am local time and the other came at 4am local time. The weird thing is that they both came to the same email address I had initially used for my first application. And they also both had the same arrival date (even though I had pushed my arrival date back on my second application.)

Nov 4 - Since both of these QR codes still listed the wrong arrival date, I decided to try my luck and do a third application in hopes of getting a corrected TP with the right date. I sent the application in at 7:45am this morning, and got a welcome email instantly. The QR code came via email about one hour later. Unfortunately, it still has the old arrival date.

 

Takeaways/observations: 

• For the third application made today, I didn't use the CORS plugin or put any spaces after my passport number. I think these early system hiccups have been fixed.
• All three of my QR codes still say valid, so a new one being issued apparently didn't invalidate the old. In my experience, I don't think there's much harm in trying again if you would like to change one of the variables on your submission.
• Admittedly, I failed to read the "fine print" on the instructions for the first application, and didn't realize that they were looking for a cropped QR code for the vaccination attachment page. I do think there is some merit to taking the time to get a good quality scannable and cropped QR code to upload to their site. I can't prove it, but it may be what was holding my application up the first go round.
• For those without a vaccination QR code, I would consider looking into your options about possibly getting one if possible. I was vaccinated at CVS and finally realized all I needed to do was make an account with them and I had free access to my vaccine QR code. Whole thing took like 10 minutes to get.
• My opinion is that the main thing we are trying to accomplish is getting the QR from Thailand Pass. This is like the magic ticket. When I scan the Thailand Pass QR code, it has very little info pertaining to what was collected on the Thailand Pass system. There's nothing about hotels, insurance, visas, etc. It's just your basic bio info, and vaccine records. My theory is that if there's any holdup, it's probably happening in the vaccine area, as this seems to be the crux of the QR code from what I can see. Perhaps Thai workers will have access to greater/hidden metadata that isn't viewable when scanning the QR code? I could be wrong, but it seems like it's very limited.
• I am still troubled by the wrong date listed on my TP, but I see that the confirmation email with QR code has an expiration date listed as Feb 2022, so maybe this isn't even an issue? The arrival date isn't even listed when visiting the resulting webpage from the QR code, so it doesn't seem to be something recorded with the QR code. I'm willing to take a chance on this minor detail since I could even just crop out the arrival date and only show the QR code, and from what I can tell there'd be no way of ascertaining the arrival date based on what comes up in the scan. Has anyone successfully got their date changed on a new QR code?

[alyx]

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

From the UK - Vaccine was administered in Qatar with a Qatar MoPH Vaccine Certificate (it has a QR Code)

Wife from Thailand - Vaccine was administered in Thailand - Mor Promp Certificate (which has a QR code)

 

I think the approval I received was definitely an automated approval based upon selecting the ‘Alternative Quarantine’ avenue of application.

 

 

We’re two days away from travelling to the Airport (hotel over night before an early AM flight) - having a Plan B ‘Alternative Quarantine’ QR Code takes pressure edge off significantly. 

 

 

Hopefully the ‘correct’ approval (Test & Go) will be issued before we depart and then with the benefit of hindsight I will know that I did not have cause for concern - however, 20/20 hindsight is something none of us have the luxury of. 

 

 

 

From EU 

I registered  with the correct information and documents but I did not get the QR code ( I am a bit nervous I will admit) so I applied again with the AQ checked instead of the Sha+ : no QR code. In both cases, although I was notified by mail that my submission had been received. ????