A reminder why Thailand is such a great place to live

[The Cipher]

6 minutes ago, PizzaBoi said:

You have absolutely no idea about my work, savings or property situation in the UK, or what I do or do not own. In fact you know absolutely nothing about my financial situation at all.

Don't let boos from the cheap seats get you down. It's just a bunch of bitter old guys lol.

 

For what it's worth, I generally agree with your assessment of Thailand. The value for money you receive there is very strong. I've started splitting time between Vancouver and Bangkok and try and live equivalently-fun lives in each.

 

Value in Bangkok is way better. Just have to adapt parts of your life/routine to maximize the relative advantages of the location you're in.

[Pravda]

Just now, The Cipher said:

Don't let boos from the cheap seats get you down. It's just a bunch of bitter old guys lol.

I'm 48 which in Thai handsome Farang years is about 19.

[kalasiner]

If you think Feudalism is bad, try Neoliberalism.

 

I left England 40 years ago to escape [deleted] Thatcher and haven't regretted that move for a single moment.

Edited November 6, 2021 by onthedarkside
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[Gottfrid]

34 minutes ago, The Cipher said:

I apologize for being blunt about this, but you're wrong.

 

There are some spectacular properties in Thailand and they're up there with anything you'd expect to find internationally. Many have prices to match, which could explain why they're relatively less explored in the mass market.

 

I specialize in hospitality and casino investments as a day job, so I hope I'd know what I'm talking about here.

Yep, that´s what a person that sell insurances also would say about his products.

[WEBBYB808]

A reminder that non Thais have no real rights in the LOS. 

[HeijoshinCool]

1 hour ago, Pravda said:

You want that you have to rent a premium Bangkok condo which goes for well over 2000 pounds a month unless you rent in old building full of cockroaches.

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There is a brand new condo/apartment building directly across the street from my apt, in Sukhumvit, on a quiet street.

 

7-800 sf, w/d in kitchen, big bath with tub and separate walk-in shower. Large bedroom. Very, very nice. Also has large rooftop pool and big gy,.

 

Starts at ฿15k/month for one bedroom.

 

Oh, it has covered parking, too.......

 

EDIT: Oh, yeah, did I mention it is furnished?

Edited November 2, 2021 by HeijoshinCool

[Pravda]

1 minute ago, HeijoshinCool said:

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There is a brand new condo/apartment building directly across the street from my apt, in Sukhumvit, on a quiet street.

 

7-800 sf, w/d in kitchen, big bath with tub and separate walk-in shower. Large bedroom. Very, very nice. Also has large rooftop pool and big gy,.

 

Starts at ฿15k/month for one bedroom.

 

Oh, it has covered parking, too.......

 

Show me. I'll rent it tomorrow.

[tonray]

19 minutes ago, kalasiner said:

If you think Feudalism is bad, try Neoliberalism.

 

I left England 40 years ago to escape That Bitch Thatcher and haven't regretted that move for a single moment.

I guess you're glad you didn't go to the Falklands...

[HeijoshinCool]

1 hour ago, Orinoco said:

You can own land in the uk

 

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Why would I want to own land? To pay insane taxes, maybe? And when the economy hits the skids and one can no longer pay the tax man, have it taken away from me? 

 

I have a classic, vintage Thai apartment in BKK. All teak and marble inside, walled-in, beautiful landscaping, pool, great office staff, walk to everything: ฿8000/month. Moved in in 2010. Owner's son is a good friend now.

 

But that is just for when I'm in BKK. Otherwise I lease a one-bedroom bungalow, a/c, fenced-in, two minutes to an isolated beach by scooter, with few neighbors (mostly rubber trees). All for ฿4000/month. Moved in in 2011 when it was brand new. Updating to my tastes now, and plan on being carried out feet first.

 

$360/month barely paid my Home Owner's fee ($180/month), let alone my property tax ($400/month)......

 

 

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Edited November 2, 2021 by HeijoshinCool

[Orinoco]

3 minutes ago, HeijoshinCool said:

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Why would I want to own land? To pay insane taxes, maybe? And when the economy hits the skids and one can no longer pay the tax man, have it taken away from me? 

 

I have a classic, vintage Thai apartment in BKK. All teak and marble inside, walled-in, beautiful landscaping, pool, great office staff, walk to everything: ฿8000/month. Moved in in 2010. Owner's son is a good friend now.

 

But that is just for when I'm in BKK. Otherwise I lease a one-bedroom bungalow, a/c, fenced-in, two minutes to an isolated beach by scooter, with few neighbors (mostly rubber trees). All for ฿4000/month. Moved in in 2011 when it was brand new. Updating to my tastes now, and plan on being carried out feet first.

 

$250/month barely paid my Home Owner's fee, let alone my property tax......

And what has all that got to do with the Op bellyaching about the uk. ?

[HeijoshinCool]

1 minute ago, Orinoco said:

And what has all that got to do with the Op bellyaching about the uk. ?

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Dude, you're the one who brought it up. 

[Guffman]

I went out last week with 2 other people. We had 8 big bottles of Singha(in plastic cups of course!) and 4 dishes of food. The bill was just under 1000 baht. The place was definitely not fancy, but the food was good and the owner friendly. There is still great value to be had in Thailand. To buy the same in the UK would be 4x the price. Maybe more. 

 

I spoke to my mum and she told me she went out for lunch the other week and commented on how much the prices had gone up since things opened up again. This is in Scotland, so the prices down south must be astronomical now.

 

I'm quite happy where I am. I'm far from rich, but can enjoy a much better quality of life than I could back home.

[norfolkandchance]

2 hours ago, PizzaBoi said:

It's not just the UK though. I'm sure most if not all Western countries aren't far off. The US is just as bad. Australia is probably worse. Western European countries like France and Germany are similar.

 

Thailand is unique in that it offers so many Western comforts in terms of quality/service/availability, but at 1/3 or 1/4 the price (bare a few things such as imported foods or luxury cars). In fact in most cases the services offered are usually better and have way less hassle to obtain them than their Western alternatives

In 2013 I realised that the UK was going down the toilet. I moved to a small region in the south of Italy where I had a Villa and Olive Groves.

Electric. €20 a month.

Water.  Never had a bill.

Large Beer. €1.50

Pizza. €5.

Prices have remained much the same. I even get the subsidy from the EU for my Olive Groves.

[OneMoreFarang]

Lets assume for a moment the cost of living would be the same in Thailand and "home". Would you prefer to be "home"?

For me the cold weather, ugly women and all those restrictions back home are reason enough to avoid it. I wouldn't want to live there even if would make a lot more money over there.

 

[roo860]

Should have gone to Wetherspoons. 

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, WEBBYB808 said:

A reminder that non Thais have no real rights in the LOS. 

A reminder that as a working middle aged, middle class white man I had no rights in the UK either.

My unemployed, unfaithful, unpleasant white wife had plenty of rights though, which I discovered to my cost.

Edited November 2, 2021 by BritManToo

[norfolkandchance]

4 minutes ago, roo860 said:

Should have gone to Wetherspoons. 

Not to the Toilets though.

[KhunLA]

14 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Lets assume for a moment the cost of living would be the same in Thailand and "home". Would you prefer to be "home"?

For me the cold weather, ugly women and all those restrictions back home are reason enough to avoid it. I wouldn't want to live there even if would make a lot more money over there.

 

Cost of living ... across the board, exactly the same, then no, I wouldn't have even looked elsewhere to retire, though a different place in the USA than where I was, as bored with it.

 

For me, it's RE Taxes, available healthcare, and cost of.  Get rid of those 2 issues in USA, and ...IF... I can holiday anywhere in the country for same price as Thailand, why would I leave.  Plenty of places to retire back in USA.

 

Weather never an issue, and actually enjoy the change of seasons, along with if wanting warm, live in the south of USA.  Way too big, and if you can't find a place that suits, then it isn't the location that's the problem.

[HashBrownHarry]

What the OP fails to mention in his comparison is the quality of product and service in the two countries.

 

I've recently spent some time in the uk ( unfortunately ) and the quality of products in supermarkets ( for example ) is no comparison to the junk you find on the shelves here, same for selection. I also found it very reasonably priced in UK.

 

Anything to do with rent / fuel or eating out, yes you'll find expensive. Shopping for food / clothes / electronics etc i found much better in UK than here.

 

 

[Pravda]

1 hour ago, HeijoshinCool said:

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There is a brand new condo/apartment building directly across the street from my apt, in Sukhumvit, on a quiet street.

 

7-800 sf, w/d in kitchen, big bath with tub and separate walk-in shower. Large bedroom. Very, very nice. Also has large rooftop pool and big gy,.

 

Starts at ฿15k/month for one bedroom.

 

Oh, it has covered parking, too.......

 

EDIT: Oh, yeah, did I mention it is furnished?

So far nada....

 

1 hour ago, PizzaBoi said:

And the notion you can't rent anything premium in Bangkok for less than £2,000/month is complete and utter BS.

 

And nada....

[grain]

Pre-pandemic my Thai partner & myself were spending our time more or less 50-50 between Perth, Australia and Korat, Thailand. She has a house in Korat; I own an apartment in Perth, so rent was never a factor. 

 

I never noticed any significant difference in our cost of living in Australia or Thailand. Our weekly shopping in supermarkets came to roughly the same (in Thailand we paid more for imported farang foodstuffs; in Australia we paid more for imported Asian foodstuffs) We don't eat much in restaurants in either country, but while eating out in Australia is generally more expensive than Thailand, we soon found good value for money restaurants around Perth. I enjoy my beers but mostly drink at home, and never noticed much, if any, difference between buying beer in Thailand or Perth. Good Aussie wines on the other hand are a fraction of the cost one pays in Thailand. 

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, Pravda said:

Yes. This is exactly what I'm saying.

 

Prove me wrong.

https://www.thailand-property.com/apartments-for-rent/bangkok/2-bedrooms?min_price=50000&max_price=60000&min_sqm=50&max_sqm=100

[Pravda]

4 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

https://www.thailand-property.com/apartments-for-rent/bangkok/2-bedrooms?min_price=50000&max_price=60000&min_sqm=50&max_sqm=100

Yes. Exactly. Not cheap considering there aren't even any customers.

 

 

Edited November 2, 2021 by Pravda

[The Cipher]

1 hour ago, Pravda said:

I'm 48 which in Thai handsome Farang years is about 19.

You've still got almost a couple decades on me, heh. But glad to hear you're still spry!

 

I generally disagree with a lot of the opinions on here, but it's nevertheless been really interesting learning from the lives you've all lived. Like an interactive window into a world I don't usually get to see.

[KhunLA]

No customers, and you know this how ?  Or are people to intelligent to spend that much on a rental.

 

Proved you wrong, and that was with search parameters of 50-60k.

Surely you can find much cheaper if actually searching.

 

You can own a nice condo for less than 2 mill, or a really nice one forthe silly price you quote for renting.  Why would you lease an apartment at that silly price ?

 

And why an apartment.  Condos & single houses w/pools can be leased well below the price you quote.

Edited November 2, 2021 by KhunLA

[KhunLA]

20 minutes ago, Pravda said:

Yes. Exactly. Not cheap considering there aren't even any customers.

 

 

Is this cheap enough for you, at £330 / ฿15,000.

Give them a ring, sure you can move in tomorrow.

https://www.thailand-property.com/2-bedroom-condo-for-sale-or-rent-in-the-tree-bang-po-station-bang-sue-bangkok-near-mrt-bang-pho_7804469

[Pravda]

5 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Is this cheap enough for you, at £330 / ฿15,000.

Give them a ring, sure you can move in tomorrow.

https://www.thailand-property.com/2-bedroom-condo-for-sale-or-rent-in-the-tree-bang-po-station-bang-sue-bangkok-near-mrt-bang-pho_7804469

 

No closet space.

 

No real kitchen.

 

No bathtub.

 

I know Pruksa construction pretty well.

 

You guys seem to get triggered every time I call you out on facts.

 

Just state facts and we can have a discussion. Please don't tell me Thailand is cheaper than the west. One guy in the other thread mentioned 10 million for a house in Thailand is not bad. I can't get the same in my own country.

 

Sure you can. If you don't live in London. In Bangkok central district there are also no houses for 10 million baht.

 

 

 

 

Edited November 2, 2021 by Pravda

[BritManToo]

3 minutes ago, Pravda said:

Just state facts and we can have a discussion. Please don't tell me Thailand is cheaper than the west. One guy in the other thread mentioned 10 million for a house in Thailand is not bad. I can't get the same in my own country.

Can you find me a 3 bedroom detached house (good neighbourhood only, (not next door to a crack house) in the UK for 2Mbht?

Edited November 2, 2021 by BritManToo

[KhunLA]

2 minutes ago, Pravda said:

 

No closet space.

 

No real kitchen.

 

No bathtub.

 

I know Pruksa construction pretty well.

 

You guys seem to get triggered every time I call you out on facts.

 

Just state facts and we can have a discussion. Please don't tell me Thailand is cheaper than the west. One guy in the other thread mentioned 10 million for a house in Thailand is not bad. I can't get the same in my own country.

 

Sure you can. If you don't live in London. In Bangkok central district there are also no houses for 10 million baht.

 

 

 

 

That's one opinion, have a nice day.

[Pravda]

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Can you find me a 3 bedroom detached house (good neighbourhood only, (not next door to a crack house) in the UK for 2Mbht?

 

I can in Canada.