No change to alcohol ban at restaurants, bar closures for now in Pattaya-Chonburi Provincial Police hold meeting with Pattaya business owners

[GlassWayOverHalfFull]

15 hours ago, Chad3000 said:

I'm guessing they want to bankrupt all those businesses.

 

It might not be easy to litigate their closure on a variety of different levels but bankrupting them it's quite a simple process. Totally passive aggressive.

 

Lots of land to sweep up in the aftermath and rebuild into the new Eastern Seaboard

Are you really guessing that? 

[Bangkok Barry]

3 hours ago, jacko45k said:

I was thinking it might be ironic if a tourist came here vaccinated, no quarantine, but ended up packed into a jail cell after having a few drinks in a hole in the wall bar on the sly. 

A unique holiday experience to post on social media. There are not many places in the world where you get to sample the inside of a police cell and then see the Thai courts in action, all for the price of a beer.

[Bangkok Barry]

Why don't all of these businesses that feel they are being treated unfairly all ignore the rules and open up as they normally would. all of them. What would the police do then? Maybe call in the army? Would make great headlines, whatever action the authorities took.

So that there is no misunderstanding, I am not suggesting such action, just wondering what might happen if the bar owners were so desperate that they feel they had no choice.

[phil2407]

They're determined to change the image of Pattaya for whatever reason - the enforced rules make no logic or sense - has someone <deleted> off someone else or stepped on their toes? 

Either the country is open or isn't - making your mind up (Bucks Fizz) ????

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, thailand49 said:

Personally this was a useless meeting especially when it is called by the police!  I thought even here their job was to carry out policies, laws and mandates what the hell are they calling a meeting as to whether to open or not?

If that was the case the participants at the meeting should have just gather their donations in close doors and handed it over to them if enough we be reading a whole different outcome? ????????

I was going to mention that the real business might be held behind closed doors afterwards, but you beat me to it.

one thing's for sure. The lack of tea money must be hurting badly, and IMO they'll be making hay as soon as the tourists are back. Perhaps there will be a lot of cigarette butts being dropped behind unsuspecting tourists.

[Chad3000]

27 minutes ago, GlassWayOverHalfFull said:

Are you really guessing that? 

Yes.

 

This will happen.

 

Pattaya will be remade into a Thai city. A bedroom community with roads and transit links to Rayong and E. Seaboard.

 

You don't think all that blah blah blah awhile back regarding a monorail system was to transport skint baxtards in running shorts and singlets about to beer bar balloon parties do you?

[PB172111]

2 hours ago, kinyara said:

The hypocrisy of allowing the music festival which brings thousands and where being seated a few feet away from each other is any safer than similar seating in  restaurant where people can go anyway BUT not have a drink. Gotta get those contracts handed out and budget shared around.

The music is not in bars or restaurants so you just go to 7/11 to legally buy a beer and enjoy the music…..???? Where is the issue?

Edited November 5, 2021 by PB172111

[SomchaiCNX]

KISS. every restriction or Law in place is pocket money for the police as we all know the local population and many farrangs have difficulty following rules.  Restrictions-bans = Money for the Police and corrupt officials/ politicians.

 

[Yewbzee]

14 hours ago, bbko said:

Had lunch with an expat friend today at a small Thai place, we ordered our food (in Thai) and asked if a beer was possible, without hesitation two chilled bottles on our table....oh yeah.

Thats crazy. Don't you know the increased Covid risk you are running drinking alcohol in a restaurant? The Thai government wouldn't have that ban in place if there wasn't sound evidence that this was very dangerous would they?

[FunkyDunky58]

This is the puritanical asses in government getting their way. They want to destroy the bar industry. But with some pretty big business interests in this not happening I wonder whether there are some ugly fates for these self righteous clowns

 

[kinyara]

9 minutes ago, PB172111 said:

The music is not in bars or restaurants so you just go to 7/11 to legally buy a beer and enjoy the music…..???? Where is the issue?

How one group cornered the alcohol sales market in Pattaya without owning q bar - who'd have thought it :))

[AllanA]

So how many tourists will go to a holiday destination with no alcohol in restaurants or a bar ? 
So you can’t even relax by the pool or beach with a beer or a cocktail for your wife ? 
 

so how is it you can buy a drink of alcohol in just about every other country but not Thailand ? Sorry what are they trying to do there ? are they only looking for non drinking tourists from now on ? 

[BritManToo]

22 minutes ago, AllanA said:

So how many tourists will go to a holiday destination with no alcohol in restaurants or a bar ? 
So you can’t even relax by the pool or beach with a beer or a cocktail for your wife ? 
 

so how is it you can buy a drink of alcohol in just about every other country but not Thailand ? Sorry what are they trying to do there ? are they only looking for non drinking tourists from now on ? 

My misses claims the general is a Muslim ......... which would explain his anti-alcohol and anti-bikini views. He wouldn't be the first PM to hide his religious beliefs (Tony Blair).

Edited November 5, 2021 by BritManToo
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[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, Chad3000 said:

Yes.

 

This will happen.

 

Pattaya will be remade into a Thai city. A bedroom community with roads and transit links to Rayong and E. Seaboard.

 

You don't think all that blah blah blah awhile back regarding a monorail system was to transport skint baxtards in running shorts and singlets about to beer bar balloon parties do you?

I'm not sure why you seem to hate white foreigners.

When did they ever harm you?

[Pierre Hanot]

Growing frustrated ? How about <deleted> off ?  How many Thai people will have to look for work in a different  industry?

Let's wait for the next elections....

[PumpkinEater]

Paralysis from fear….

[Mike k]

What would happen if these provincial goveners did like some of the states and told the pm to shove it and allowed bars, clubs and restaurants in their provinces to serve alcohol 

[kinyara]

4 minutes ago, Pierre Hanot said:

Growing frustrated ? How about <deleted> off ?  How many Thai people will have to look for work in a different  industry?

Let's wait for the next elections....

I wouldn't hold your breath, the electoral system has already been changed recently. 

[Chad3000]

3 hours ago, SuwadeeS said:

It is so simple to understand.

The government just does Not want the "Red Light Tourist" back.

So, all These people need to consider for a new Destination .

While it was the lifeblood of Pattaya underbelly it was just that.

 

Assessments made, skint baxtards are just that - skint. Time to change the game and move on.

 

Think of Pattaya full of middle class Thai, proper tourists and Chinese being led around by the nose out of sight and out of mind. So, just like every typical touristy beach town.

 

Perhaps all the bars and slutz well move to another large Beach town or maybe it will start a new somewhere else. With covid maybe not.

[Mike k]

16 minutes ago, Pierre Hanot said:

Growing frustrated ? How about <deleted> off ?  How many Thai people will have to look for work in a different  industry?

Let's wait for the next elections....

You mean the same sham elections they had where payute's hand picked senators made him the pm 

[Mr Meeseeks]

17 hours ago, Chad3000 said:

I'm guessing they want to bankrupt all those businesses.

 

It might not be easy to litigate their closure on a variety of different levels but bankrupting them it's quite a simple process. Totally passive aggressive.

 

Lots of land to sweep up in the aftermath and rebuild into the new Eastern Seaboard

100% correct.

[piewarmer]

4 hours ago, richthai said:

It would be helpful if they specified the conditions they need to allow reopening.  But, TIT so, no information forthcoming.  It's difficult to rationalize why some areas allow bars to reopen but not Pattaya.

From memory it's usually Pattaya that's allowed to be the only place open during crackdowns

[herfiehandbag]

4 hours ago, richthai said:

It would be helpful if they specified the conditions they need to allow reopening.  But, TIT so, no informationcture forthcoming.  It's difficult to rationalize why some areas allow bars to reopen but not Pattaya.

In other areas they don't want to restructure the town and it's economy to create a "Casino zone" a la Sihanoukville.

[Mike k]

1 hour ago, Yewbzee said:

Thats crazy. Don't you know the increased Covid risk you are running drinking alcohol in a restaurant? The Thai government wouldn't have that ban in place if there wasn't sound evidence that this was very dangerous would they?

If this "government" was actually worried about covid they would have gotten off their a**at the beginning procured effective vaccines instead of the Chinese <deleted>. It is no more dangerous drinking alcohol in a restaurant then drinking any non alcoholic drink 

[Mr Meeseeks]

12 hours ago, bbko said:

In our area we are know as jai dee farangs and not the cranky Thai bashing jai dam farangs.

You are still a farang though, and always will be.

 

4 hours ago, smedly said:

Be interesting to see which businesses get the so called SHA+ approval to open,  they could be very selective when it happens with a few backhanders going into deep pockets, places like gogo bars and soi 6 ST bars might have a problem getting approved to open ....................maybe ever 

That's the MO. 

[skorp13]

I'm sure hotel owners are thrilled that in the most popular international tourist destination in the country all these would be travelers can't have a beer in a restaurant, bookings........ don't hold your breath

[Mr Meeseeks]

2 minutes ago, skorp13 said:

I'm sure hotel owners are thrilled that in the most popular international tourist destination in the country all these would be travelers can't have a beer in a restaurant, bookings........ don't hold your breath

Bill Heineken is not amused, and he has already told the Government what he thinks...

[Mike k]

2 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Why don't all of these businesses that feel they are being treated unfairly all ignore the rules and open up as they normally would. all of them. What would the police do then? Maybe call in the army? Would make great headlines, whatever action the authorities took.

So that there is no misunderstanding, I am not suggesting such action, just wondering what might happen if the bar owners were so desperate that they feel they had no choice.

Like Arlo Guthrie said if 1 person did it they would think he was crazy if every bar, restaurant and club in every province did it it would be a movement and anything the police or military did would make the world news then no one would come here 

[Flink]

3 hours ago, Almer said:

There may be something in this train of thought, let them decay to nothing use Covid as there excuse and open Museums and art gallery’s in the redevelopment, I’m only joking   they would never have thought of this idea.

Well, you're sort of half right. Letting the areas decay using Covid as a reason to keep them closed I agree with. Not so sure about the museums and srt galleries though. A more likely scenario is sell the land to Chinese developers to do a town centre rebuild, Chinese style. Go to any city centre in China and you'll find wall to wall Gucci, Armani, Lambourgini, YSL stores and all the top fashion houses and luxury good manufacturers. The thing is, in China it works because there are so many very wealthy Chinese living there. Here, not so much, and tourists aren't going to come all this way to buy a luxury item they could probably get cheaper (because there will always be a Thai "mark up" because it's imported goods) and won't have to face hassle with immigration wanting them to pay duty on the way out. It's already like that, I saw a company selling 2nd hand Aston Martin low spec cars for more than the high spec new ones in the UK, because it's "imported".

[Bangkok Barry]

14 minutes ago, Mike k said:

Like Arlo Guthrie said if 1 person did it they would think he was crazy if every bar, restaurant and club in every province did it it would be a movement and anything the police or military did would make the world news then no one would come here 

You can't get anything you want, at Alice's restaurant. As long as it doesn't contain alcohol.