ThomasThBKK Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 26 minutes ago, Berkshire said: So what happens if the place gets robbed after the OP turned off the cameras? The OP will be complaining about lack of security. Honestly, I don't see what the big deal is with these cameras. The OP said himself the cameras were all outside. Classic example of making a mountain out of a molehill. What <deleted> up argument is this even, the op wouldnt have a problem with the CCTV itself, if he would control is. But it's controlled by some creepy old dude who doesn't live there, like a psychopath... i would just replace the NVR (recording unit) with my own so only i have acccess to the CCTV.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, ThomasThBKK said: What <deleted> up argument is this even, the op wouldnt have a problem with the CCTV itself, if he would control is. But it's controlled by some creepy old dude who doesn't live there, like a psychopath... i would just replace the NVR (recording unit) with my own so only i have acccess to the CCTV.... We dont know what kind of system installed, now with these internet cameras you only need to download an APP to your phone or ipad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Tracy Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Sometimes, when we have a power cut, our cameras reset pointing in wrong directions. Sometimes we have to reset them manually... Just a thought...we have a few power cuts and now at least 2 cameras fail to work. What does your contract say about the agent's access to the property, just in case the cameras are unserviceable? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McTavish Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, ThomasThBKK said: What <deleted> up argument is this even, the op wouldnt have a problem with the CCTV itself, if he would control is. But it's controlled by some creepy old dude who doesn't live there, like a psychopath... i would just replace the NVR (recording unit) with my own so only i have acccess to the CCTV.... If it's a sophisticated Huawei-type system it may be either hard-wired or wifi. If the former, multiple camera connections will be on rear of the NVR, simply unplug the ethernet to modem cable and it still records but doesn't broadcast via the 'net. If totally wifi, use the vaseline on camera lens trick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBChiangRai Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 I would offer him 2 choices, either he provides a separate electric supply for them, or you will pay for the electric but won’t accept any loss of privacy. The first option is impossible for him unless he owns an adjacent property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 19 minutes ago, ThomasThBKK said: What <deleted> up argument is this even, the op wouldnt have a problem with the CCTV itself, if he would control is. But it's controlled by some creepy old dude who doesn't live there, like a psychopath... i would just replace the NVR (recording unit) with my own so only i have acccess to the CCTV.... Talk about dumb suggestions. Who the heck travels around with their own CCTV system (or recording unit)? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 I'll go as far as saying, you cannot invade peoples privacy without prior notice, cameras can be installed around the perimeter and entrance but the tenant or renter has to be informed of their location, so in the beginning you either accept or not. On sites like airbnb the host has to declare if there is cameras on the property and you have to disclose the location in the description of the property, If a guest arrives and is not happy with the cameras and location the guest can cancel the booking there and then and airbnb will give them a full refund and the owner might be liable for finding a like for like property 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 12 hours ago, wthnrsn said: My only concern would be if he had grounds to kick us out if we kept turning them off There will only be one loser in that Scenario. Him. Plenty of good properties for Rent now, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Peterphuket said: Better take spray, paper easy to remove. With spray you damage property, paper is easy to replace 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbone999 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Since the cameras / data are not in your control and not covered by the lease agreement, you need to take a pro-active stance and take control of the situation, not do this tit for tac stuff. Send an email to both letting agent and owner that you will turn off the cameras that could compromise your privacy and open you to possible recriminations via the computer crimes law. Also point out that the owner himself could be implicated since he has control of the data and liable to prison terms. Tell them you are doing it for the benefit of everyone and will not allow yourself to be open to this possibility during your stay. This gives you the argument to refuse any requests to turn them on and gives you control to do as you please with the cameras. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Old Man Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 If I liked the rented property enough to stay I personally customise the CCTV camera lens with a newly bought roll of "Duck Tape" . . . . Duck Tape fixes 95% of all issues. . . . . . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilly07 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Presume you are paying the electricity bill and are therefore entitled to turn off any electrical device in the property 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arick Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 8 hours ago, phetphet said: Are the cameras hard wired or wifi? If wifi, you maybe able to to do something to disrupt the signal. It's vert common in Thailand to build a nest and chew the wires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Theory Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) Landlord rented the property, has no right to control anything (not mentioned in contract and even did not notify you about existing any). He can not do anything legally (in fact what he is doing is illegal), but perhaps he/she won't return your deposit. Edited November 5, 2021 by The Theory 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arick Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 How much are you paying for this villa and how many SQM I have a 60sqm condo in chaing mai for rent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arick Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 The owners nationality will tell you a lot what is there nationality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthnrsn Posted November 8, 2021 Author Share Posted November 8, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 11:05 AM, ThomasThBKK said: What <deleted> up argument is this even, the op wouldnt have a problem with the CCTV itself, if he would control is. But it's controlled by some creepy old dude who doesn't live there, like a psychopath... i would just replace the NVR (recording unit) with my own so only i have acccess to the CCTV.... We're going to do just that. The DVR will be here in a couple days. Thanks for the tip! it's really the best solution. We get to actually benefit from the cameras and receive alerts if someone is lurking around the place, and we have our privacy too. Perfect! How the landlord will respond to this, I don't know. 1 hour ago, arick said: The owners nationality will tell you a lot what is there nationality? Brit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phetphet Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 How about some conveniently place large pot plants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arick Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 2 hours ago, wthnrsn said: We're going to do just that. The DVR will be here in a couple days. Thanks for the tip! it's really the best solution. We get to actually benefit from the cameras and receive alerts if someone is lurking around the place, and we have our privacy too. Perfect! How the landlord will respond to this, I don't know. Brit Just leave it unplugged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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