webfact Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Picture: Thai Rath Daily News reported yesterday that 214,251 people had registered to come to Thailand with the Thailand Pass. Thai Rath quoted the DES minister as saying that all problems associated with the system had now been ironed out and Thailand could expect a million visitors from March. The stats for arrivals since the November 1st reopening of the country stand at 58,870 of which just 74 have tested positive for Covid-19. Picture: Daily News Thanee Saengrat of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said that out of the 214,251 that had registered 167,415 had so far received approval. 86,719 of these received immediate electronic approval. Arrivals at Bangkok's two main international airports - Suvannabhumi and Don Muang - totalled 38,584 with 42 having Covid. In Phuket the number was 18,421 with 32 infected. No Covid cases were detected at either Samui, 1,259 arrivals, or Chiang Mai, with 210 arrivals. Daily News said that a drop down menu list had improved the Thailand Pass. This was to do with connections between hotels and hospitals. Signage at airports was also improving the speed at which arrivals were handled getting them ready to show passports, Thailand Pass QR Codes, Test results, air tickets and TM 6 cards. In the Thai Rath article it was reported that Digital Economy and Society minister Chaiwut Thanakhamanusorn paid an inspection visit to Suvarnabhumi airport declaring that the Thailand Pass was now 100% fit for purpose following the earlier teething problems. Assessments from the tourism ministry that one million people would be visiting Thailand by March 2022 would be met, he said. Visa-compliant insurance plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m -- © Copyright ASEAN NOW 2021-11-18 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow ASEAN NOW on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates Get your business in front of millions of customers who read ASEAN NOW with an interest in Thailand every month - email [email protected] for more information 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Enzian Posted November 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2021 Therefore we are to conclude that every single problem that applicants are experiencing with the TP system is due to their own selves. Thanks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gsxrnz Posted November 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2021 100% fit for purpose assumes the potential options are not binary. Either something is fit for purpose, or it is not. I don't see too many advertisements for parachutes that are 99% fit for purpose. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisY1 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 The number of "positive" visitors to Phuket, IMO, seem unusually high compared to the BKK arrivals. Is the Sandbox scam starting to raise it's head again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bokningar Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 And no one knows how many of the 74, that were false positives? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CRUNCHER Posted November 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2021 Nearly 59,000 sounds a lot, but... 38,584 in Bangkok's 2 main airports is about 2,300 per day. About 8 plane loads between 2 airports. Hardly a stampede. Further, how are the figures broken down? How many are returning Thais and long term expats relieving a pent up demand? How many are normal businessmen? How many are short/long term tourists, which is what Thailand desperately needs? It is far too early to say Thailand Pass is fit for purpose and then we will need more meaningful statistics. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Drake Posted November 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2021 Just remember that this is a military government. And what do you need when you want to enter or leave a military base? A pass. So, yes, the Thailand Pass is "fit for purpose," its purpose being turning the country into one giant military base. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjmorton Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Statistically speaking, how many false positives and how many false negatives would we expect to see in 59K tests? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gearbox Posted November 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Gsxrnz said: 100% fit for purpose assumes the potential options are not binary. Either something is fit for purpose, or it is not. I don't see too many advertisements for parachutes that are 99% fit for purpose. Thailand Pass is 95% useless, as the airlines don't use it and want the same documentation presented (the one used for TP), same is valid at many places at the Thai airports. They are just checking how much pain the tourists are prepared to bear, and adjusting the measures on the fly when the tourists are not coming. Sooner or later the TP and PCR on arrival will be gone, but the high season will be gone too....May 2022 is coming and they'll need to compete with the Mediterranean destinations again. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 4 hours ago, ChrisY1 said: The number of "positive" visitors to Phuket, IMO, seem unusually high compared to the BKK arrivals. Is the Sandbox scam starting to raise it's head again? I doubt it's any kind of scam. COVID numbers are beginning to go through the roof in countries where tourists come from. All of europe will likely be locked down again or under severe restrictions by or before early December because many more will be infected - it will happen very quickly, arguably 'winter measures' are already here in many places. They started this opening up at the worst possible time - COVID season has started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 6 hours ago, webfact said: Thai Rath quoted the DES minister as saying that all problems associated with the system had now been ironed out and Thailand could expect a million visitors from March. If it's been sorted why March, do they not want to come sooner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdenner Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 So how many of the 74 have made successful claims on their compulsory insurance? I'm betting they are jumping through any number of hoops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Most stuff I buy on Lazada is advertised as fit for purpose... however reality is when it's delivered it rarely is. Thailand Pass is another reality. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 21 hours ago, bokningar said: And no one knows how many of the 74, that were false positives? Perhaps as many as there were false negatives? I know 0.13% sounds very low, but considering the pre-flight requirements of full vaccination and a 72 hour test before flying, it is not insignificant. 74 infected people running around the bars of Phuket or Bangkok is of some concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deepair Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 I would be interested to know how many of the 0.13% of people flying into Thailand that tested positive for Covid were fully vaccinated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Deepair said: I would be interested to know how many of the 0.13% of people flying into Thailand that tested positive for Covid were fully vaccinated. I was believing this was the group who are fully vaccinated... or at least have evidence of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adelphi Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) If you tested everyone getting off a Thai train how many would test positive? Almost certainly many more than 0.13% as many of the passengers would be unvaccinated and none of them had to show a negative PCR test to board. Such testing will never happen for the obvious reasons. Covid is now endemic. We need to learn to live with it and just get on with our lives once we are fully vaccinated. Time to dial down the histeria with international travel. Edited November 19, 2021 by Adelphi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiman Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 How many people forced into quarantine because they were sitting around those 74 infected persons? 10 people per one infected? 10x74=740 people forced into quarantine? Are there any stats regarding this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeCross Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 (edited) Quote The stats for arrivals since the November 1st reopening of the country stand at 58,870 of which just 74 have tested positive for Covid-19 so using a little math thats 1,257 cases per million arrivals? seems high, here's europe: Edited November 19, 2021 by GeorgeCross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 On 11/18/2021 at 10:40 AM, bokningar said: And no one knows how many of the 74, that were false positives? The chance of a false positive with atk followed by false positive with a PCR test are extrememly low. Of course, testing ppsitive does not mean one is infectious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, GeorgeCross said: so using a little math thats 1,270 per million arrivals? seems high, here's europe: The numbers are not comparable. ALL arrivals are tested. Is the entire population of those countries tested? NO. Real infection rates are much higher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 On 11/19/2021 at 1:42 PM, Adelphi said: We need to learn to live with it and just get on with our lives once we are fully vaccinated. Time to dial down the histeria with international travel. Not wrong.... but we are not quite there yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 I assume these sorts of press accounts are meant for the thai public which remains concerned about foreigners bringing in COVID-19? The current screening process seems sufficient. That said, there was a patient zero for Alpha and Delta here. Follow protocols, continue the vaccination/booster efforts and hope for the best. And an amulet or three wouldn't hurt. I don't follow the situation closely but the surge in Europe seems concerning. Not sure if this is a precursor for other regions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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