Covid 60 extension, IO Chaeng Watthana asking for flight ticket

[MZsolt]

Hey All,

 

today I went to apply so called Covid visa extension and was asked to show a flight ticket to leave TH. Same situation for few other guys too who were there in same time with me.

 

 

[david555]

Seems "good old Thai immigration rules " are on the horizon , now Thailand starts opening  again , maybe  now land borders go start opening too .....

 

Back to the good old days  visa runs ? ????

[DrJack54]

OP, that's disappointing. A cancelled flight out or any flight is not required.

Did you have the affidavit with you. 

So you attended CW? 

Which visa did you previously have? Tourist Visa? 

 

https://aseannow.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=727659

 

Edited November 18, 2021 by DrJack54

[Coremouse]

Same here, straight denied for extension. Today I went to Chaeng Wattana, with complete documents(affadavit, STM2, TM7, TM30&90 days receipts, copie all passport pages, just as I successfully applied 3 times before).

 

The immigration officer asking why I didn't return home country China, I stated for me have no Chinese health code, not vaxed yet, I'll be denied boarding any plane and can't resolve this before expire date. And most importantly China's been very strict control recently and can't get a plane ticket, whether it's Beijing, Guangzhou, Shenzhen etc... I could only find 2 tickets for Shanghai, and price equal to 185000 baht per ticket... 

 

I told officer I think I'm being very reasonable getting 1 more extension, ( I'm expelled from my family since I took TS surgery... and really no reason to go back, I setup my home and DIY shop here, also has a dearest indoor cat, chipped but not neutered, would be headache if left her alone for more than 2 weeks ) I have valid Elite PE-Visa to July 2022, it's just because this silly situation I can't do a visa-run to any destination, this makes PE-Visa absolute waste of money since can't convert back inside Thailand. Immigration officer said could only extend if have embassy-support letter, which I think many embassies already stopped issuing for a while, even though negative travel advice. 

 

I guess it's pretty obvious covid-extension isn't as reliable now, and may come to end for many? I'm trying contact embassy or asking agent now, and agent says from recently it's very difficult if applicant go to apply by self, without help of (higher price) agent... 

 

 

Edited November 18, 2021 by Coremouse

[BKKTRAVELER]

47 minutes ago, Coremouse said:

I have valid Elite PE-Visa to July 2022, it's just because this silly situation I can't do a visa-run to any destination, this makes PE-Visa absolute waste of money since can't convert back inside

Could you please elaborate on that? I mean, what do you need to convert back if you have an Elite visa valid until July 2022? Is there a solution maybe?

[Coremouse]

Just now, BKKTRAVELER said:

Could you please elaborate on that? I mean, what do you need to convert back if you have an Elite visa valid until July 2022? Is there a solution maybe?

It's just last time I entered with non-b to work, not elite visa. And now I nearly can't stay in Thailand even I have a perfect valid PE-visa, and visa-run now is very costly and complicated, if not impossible for me

 

which was why I purchased 5-yrs straight from Thailand elite.co, to gurantee I could stay and avoid other cost and complexity. Now it's mostly complete useless

 

I contacted Thailand elite.co, and many agents, this is confirmed unsolvable by any means.

[BKKTRAVELER]

1 minute ago, Coremouse said:

It's just last time I entered with non-b to work, not elite visa. And now I nearly can't stay in Thailand even I have a perfect valid PE-visa, and visa-run now is very costly and complicated, if not impossible for me

 

which was why I purchased 5-yrs straight from Thailand elite.co, to gurantee I could stay and avoid other cost and complexity. Now it's mostly complete useless

 

I contacted Thailand elite.co, and many agents, this is confirmed unsolvable by any means.

I feel for you, it seems indeed it could be very easily solved with a few stamps and yet they are making it seem impossible for whatever reason. I hope you will manage to find a suitable solution, or go see an agent tomorrow that will fix it for now. 

 

All the best.

[sallecc]

This is not good news... Many people were relying on Covid extensions... I haven't heard of any rejections in other places like Phuket so far...

 

News are they agents don't make Volunteer visa anymore, so ED is probably the only way left for many.

 

@Coremouse did you check with agents if they can help somehow? Or maybe get vaccinated and fly in / out Cambodia, they canceled quarantine for tourists this week...

[Kevinphall]

???? those were the days my friend I thought they’d never end ???? 

[jackdd]

Sounds like an IO making up his/her own rules.

Just going on another day might solve this problem.

[david555]

12 minutes ago, jackdd said:

Sounds like an IO making up his/her own rules.

Just going on another day might solve this problem.

Just going on another day might solve this problem. =

 

The only way to find out if things are really changed....

Edited November 18, 2021 by david555

[stigar]

Thats why i used a agent last time.They picked up my passport where i stayed..after 3 days they brugth my passport back with new 60 days visa.JUST needed my passport,thats it.I paid 5400 bath for this service.

[Gottfrid]

It´s a reasonable question to ask for a ticket home. Everybody that do not live as married or on retirement extensions in Thailand needs to go home according to the immigration law. Not anything wrong with asking for a ticket.

[DrJack54]

5 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

It´s a reasonable question to ask for a ticket home. Everybody that do not live as married or on retirement extensions in Thailand needs to go home according to the immigration law. Not anything wrong with asking for a ticket.

It's not required for covid extension and those immigration offices that are asking for that are wrong.

Your ..."Not anything wrong with asking for a ticket" is personal opinion not based on actual retirements

[Gottfrid]

3 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

It's not required for covid extension and those immigration offices that are asking for that are wrong.

Your ..."Not anything wrong with asking for a ticket" is personal opinion not based on actual retirements

Did I say that it was somebody else opinion? Anyway Dr Jack, Thank you very much for explaining to yourself, and the ones that didn´t understand. 

You also know that much is up to the individual discretion of every single officer, right? Yes, it´s right! It even stands in the Immigration law in many places.

Edited November 18, 2021 by Gottfrid

[DrJack54]

26 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Everybody that do not live as married or on retirement extensions in Thailand needs to go home according to the immigration law.

Please show this law during period of time when covid extensions are being made available to those that can meet one of the 4 criteria on affidavit to apply for covid extension. #2 being embassy not providing letter.

 

https://aseannow.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=727659

 

Edited November 18, 2021 by DrJack54

[thaicookingchef]

haha, the champions still going to the worst immigration in the country...

 

no questions asked anywhere else !

 

 

[JayClay]

What box did you tick on the affidavit? Maybe that has a bearing on what additional info/documents the officer may request from you?

[Gottfrid]

26 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Please show this law during period of time when covid extensions are being made available to those that can meet one of the 4 criteria on affidavit to apply for covid extension. #2 being embassy not providing letter.

 

https://aseannow.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=727659 229.8 kB · 783 downloads

 

Don´t have to do that! Both you and me know that it´s a problem staying in Thailand without being married under the age of 50.

That´s why I had my opinion about that it´s not strange they ask to see a ticket home after a Covid extension is over. From start they were made to be used for people that couldn´t go home because there was no flights. Now they are, as visa runs before, being used for the wrong purpose. If you think about that, it´s easy to understand why they start asking. After that you can quote what you want. The only thing you will achieve is to show that you do not understand why they were giving extensions from start. To many people are working the system to stay in Thailand, and that only leads to a harder time for those who want to stay according to the immigration laws of Thailand.

Edited November 18, 2021 by Gottfrid

[david555]

1 minute ago, Gottfrid said:

Don´t have to do that! Both you and me know that it´s a problem staying in Thailand without being married under the age of 50.

That´s why I had my opinion about that it´s not strange they ask to see a ticket home after a Covid extension is over. From start they were made to be used for people that couldn´t go home because there was no flights. Now they are, as visa runs before, being used for the wrong purpose. If you think about that, it´s easy to understand why they start asking. After that you can quote what you want. The only thing you will achieve is to show that you do not understand why they was giving extensions from start. To many people are working the system to stay in Thailand, and that only leads to a harder time for those who want to stay according to the immigration laws of Thailand.

Some people are forgetting the days before covid when it was more difficult to stay Thailand whiteout a proper visa .....they became very lenient because covid19 situation , also some don't wish to recognize that like you said they can ask for additional documents  , even consular officers on embassy's have that right , it is a general rule when applying  for a visa 

 

Immigration officers are the boss like it or not , but a fact , they decide on the application ,hence the expression we use jumping thru hoops ???? Just follow their instructions (if you can...) and you have no problem

[Gottfrid]

1 minute ago, david555 said:

Some people are forgetting the days before covid when it was more difficult to stay Thailand whiteout a proper visa .....they became very lenient because covid19 situation , also some don't wish to recognize that like you said they can ask for additional documents  , even consular officers on embassy's have that right , it is a general rule when applying  for a visa 

 

Immigration officers are the boss like it or not , but a fact , they decide on the application ,hence the expression we use jumping thru hoops ???? Just follow their instructions (if you can...) and you have no problem

Spot on! Nice to have someone who understands the system.

[KhaoYai]

5 hours ago, MZsolt said:

today I went to apply so called Covid visa extension and was asked to show a flight ticket to leave TH. Same situation for few other guys too who were there in same time with me.

A4 paper, photoshop.

[DrJack54]

10 minutes ago, david555 said:

it is a general rule when applying  for a visa 

They are not applying for a visa.

The thread is about covid extensions.

Thailand is not the only country that has provided options due to covid situation.

Stick with the facts. Currently covid extensions are available.

As an aside you might like to consider recent news of possible (Re) introduction on Amnesty. Possible into gazette soon.

Putting that aside....covid extensions would have been continued past Nov 27. WHY?

 

 

 

Edited November 18, 2021 by DrJack54

[david555]

Just now, DrJack54 said:

They are not applying for a visa.

The thread is about covid extensions.

Thailand is not the only country that has provided options due to covid situation.

Stick with the facts. Currently covid extensions are available.

As an aside you might like to consider recent news of possible (Re) introduction on Amnesty. 

Putting that aside....covid extensions would have been continued past Nov 27. WHY?

 

 

 

Just pointing out who is the boss .... i know you do not like that but is a fact , no further discussion possible , unless go higher up at CW ..... and then we know the outcome already ... isnt'it ????

[DrJack54]

1 minute ago, david555 said:

Just pointing out who is the boss .... i know you do not like that but is a fact , no further discussion possible , unless go higher up at CW ..... and then we know the outcome already ... isnt'it ????

What does that even mean.

Covid extensions are currently available and do not require any proof of flights. 

Again as I mentioned. Amnesty might be introduced, however that could be temporary caused by recent cluster imm office.

Prior to that it was almost universally accepted that covid extensions would continue.

Most likely next date would be issued through till end Jan 2022.

Let's stick to the facts.

IMO covid extensions will be issued untill some land borders open.

[david555]

1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

What does that even mean.

Covid extensions are currently available and do not require any proof of flights. 

Again as I mentioned. Amnesty might be introduced, however that could be temporary caused by recent cluster imm office.

Prior to that it was almost universally accepted that covid extensions would continue.

Most likely next date would be issued through till end Jan 2022.

Let's stick to the facts.

IMO covid extensions will be issued untill some land borders open.

Jack ....i know you know the theory of all that excellent .... but you fail to recognize the power of persons with authority ......who decide the case !

 

Did you have done army duty ? .... if there they would have teach  you that ????

 

Theory & practice ....2 different things 

[lolalol]

55 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

What does that even mean.

Covid extensions are currently available and do not require any proof of flights. 

Again as I mentioned. Amnesty might be introduced, however that could be temporary caused by recent cluster imm office.

Prior to that it was almost universally accepted that covid extensions would continue.

Most likely next date would be issued through till end Jan 2022.

Let's stick to the facts.

IMO covid extensions will be issued untill some land borders open.

I just read somewhere that its been extended through till the end of December 2021...

Some people are being asked for return flight ticket, some people are not.....

[audaciousnomad]

I successfully extended 2 weeks ago. I was asked "When do you plan to fly back to your country?".  But I was not required to present an actual ticket.

[ubonjoe]

12 hours ago, Coremouse said:

 I have valid Elite PE-Visa to July 2022, it's just because this silly situation I can't do a visa-run to any destination, this makes PE-Visa absolute waste of money since can't convert back inside Thailand.

You can apply for a one year extension of stay for your Thai Elite visa entry. This is from the Thai Website FAQs.

Source: https://www.thailandelite.com/faqs?locate=en&popup=false

[jackdd]

9 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You can apply for a one year extension of stay for your Thai Elite visa entry. This is from the Thai Website FAQs.

Source: https://www.thailandelite.com/faqs?locate=en&popup=false

He said he entered with a non-B