Thaijack2014 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 17 hours ago, pattjock said: What about all the Thai people not wearing masks? Ummm.... it is their country? They live here? There we go again... foreigners coming to Thailand, thinking that everything is all about them and around them and they are the greatest. If a Thai doesn't wear a mask, then the foreigner too doesn't need it, right? If a Thai jumps off a cliff, the foreigner does what? Jump too? They come to visit Thailand and so they have to accept the rules. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post couchpotato Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Cabradelmar said: Enforcement would obviously be skewed towards foreigners because when you walk the streets of Bangkok it's a foreigner who you are likely to see not earing a mask at all... the profile is fairly straight forward -- white, poorly dressed in circa 1990s cargo shorts, overweight, 55+ years old, with a scowl on their face. Just pointing out the obvious. It's not that hard to be a good guest of the Kingdom, and if you can't do that then maybe try a different country white, poorly dressed in circa 1990s cargo shorts, overweight, 55+ years old, with a scowl on their face. Bit prejudiced... so a person is not a good guest if he wears cargo shorts.. maybe the scowl belongs with you. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 26 minutes ago, paul1804 said: Thailand really knows how to put off visitors, the article should read. It is Thailand law to wear a face mask and this applies to both citizens, residents & visitors, no exceptions. But instead they have to single out "foreigners" why would they do this if they really want people to visit. If they feel foreigner visitors are the bigger offenders then make it one of the stipulations on Thai pass so visitors are fully aware! Believe me, it already is. I Can Explain It to You But I Can't Understand It for You 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NanLaew Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said: Why do the Thai authorities continue to do this? As may posters have said this is plainly xenophobic or even racist, because it is implying Thais are better at obeying the law, when we all know they are not! They want more tourists to come into the country then pull ridiculous stunts like this, what a joke! Why not just say People instead of Foreigners? Advising the majority of newbie foreign arrivals to mask up is neither xenophobic or racist. (see earlier post on common sense) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stubby52 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 4 hours ago, placeholder said: You sure about that? Surgical masks reduce COVID-19 spread, large-scale study shows A large, randomized trial led by researchers at Stanford Medicine and Yale University has found that wearing a surgical face mask over the mouth and nose is an effective way to reduce the occurrence of COVID-19 in community settings. It also showed that relatively low-cost, targeted interventions to promote mask-wearing can significantly increase the use of face coverings in rural, low-income countries. Based on the results, the interventional model is being scaled up to reach tens of millions of people in Southeast Asia and Latin America over the next few months. https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/09/surgical-masks-covid-19.html Does not apply to the thin cloth masks i see most wearing i'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 A derogatory troll post has been reported and removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomacht8 Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 The foreigners are often used as scapegoats here. Are to blame for plague and cholera. Are to blame that there is no more money. Are to blame for moral decline and much more. This is then always regularly injected into the minds of the normal population through the government-controlled media. Goverments like to use this tactic to distract attention from their own wrongdoings. The dilemma, on the one hand the foreigner with his unloved presence, and on the other hand as a necessary evil to get his money. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DefaultName Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 Perhaps the tourists think they're on holiday in Open Thailand. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 minute ago, tomacht8 said: The foreigners are often used as scapegoats here. Are to blame for plague and cholera. Are to blame that there is no more money. Are to blame for moral decline and much more. This is then always regularly injected into the minds of the normal population through the government-controlled media. Governments like to use this tactic to distract attention from their own wrongdoings. The dilemma, on the one hand the foreigner with his unloved presence, and on the other hand as a necessary evil to get his money. If I felt like a Farang described above, I would not stay in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Loh Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, NanLaew said: Advising the majority of newbie foreign arrivals to mask up is neither xenophobic or racist. (see earlier post on common sense) If it's common sense, the foreigners would have masked up for their own safety and protection without being advised. Edited November 23, 2021 by Eric Loh wrong word 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, tomacht8 said: The foreigners are often used as scapegoats here. Are to blame for plague and cholera. Are to blame that there is no more money. Are to blame for moral decline and much more. This is then always regularly injected into the minds of the normal population through the government-controlled media. Goverments like to use this tactic to distract attention from their own wrongdoings. The dilemma, on the one hand the foreigner with his unloved presence, and on the other hand as a necessary evil to get his money. I don't think it's so much the media as voices only some farangs can hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BE88 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 One solution could be the tourist camps like in Australia now, with no masks. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbbooboo Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Hmmmmm........ .....And of course we need to remember if it wasn't for pesky "foreigners", Thailand wouldn't have a co-vid problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CM Dad Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 14 hours ago, Hummin said: How do you know she is Thai? Because she is not wearing a mask. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post toolpush Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 14 hours ago, freedomnow said: Yes, because wearing masks outside is not necessary with no data to back its use up. But bah, lets make it a rule anyway...just bcoz. There is no credible data to back up the use of masks inside either......... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivingNThailand Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 hours ago, redwood1 said: Me too but most maskers seem satisfied if you at least wear your mask like this.. She must be Russian. That's what they all looked like at Makro last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Moonlover Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 45 minutes ago, NanLaew said: 1 hour ago, Moonlover said: Wearing a mask should, IMO be optional, allowing the individual to make his or hers own risk assessment according to the circumstances they find themselves in. 45 minutes ago, NanLaew said: Doing a 'risk assessment' on yourself is easy. Have you tried doing one on behalf of the people you come across? My 'risk assessment' includes 'how close am I likely to come to other people?' If the answer is 'not close enough to be of concern' then I go without wearing a mask. In other words, a risk assessment on behalf of others is just as easy as doing one for my own benefit. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlhalliday Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 18 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Dr Apisamai said this behaviour had resulted in COVID-19 transmissions, without being more specific. Does Anutin write Dr Apisamai's speeches ? It sounds like his Xenophobic mind at work. Foreigners are being misled by the Thai Government saying the country is open. which it is not. The rules of entry have been relaxed a little, that is all. There are more Thais than foreigners not wearing masks and they should be setting a good example. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post toolpush Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 5 hours ago, placeholder said: You sure about that? Surgical masks reduce COVID-19 spread, large-scale study shows A large, randomized trial led by researchers at Stanford Medicine and Yale University has found that wearing a surgical face mask over the mouth and nose is an effective way to reduce the occurrence of COVID-19 in community settings. It also showed that relatively low-cost, targeted interventions to promote mask-wearing can significantly increase the use of face coverings in rural, low-income countries. Based on the results, the interventional model is being scaled up to reach tens of millions of people in Southeast Asia and Latin America over the next few months. https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/09/surgical-masks-covid-19.html How about this? https://fee.org/articles/new-study-casts-more-doubt-on-effectiveness-of-masks-in-preventing-covid-19-spread/ Or this? https://fee.org/articles/new-danish-study-finds-masks-don-t-protect-wearers-from-covid-infection/ 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongalulu Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Lemsta69 said: which keeps prices down and allows the old codgers to live here instead of smelly old ferrlung land. yet they complain about the poor standards. oh the irony! ???? The coherence of that response leads me to suspect you may have fallen to the average level here yourself. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveyboy Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Why Foreigners...why not all people not wearing face masks will be fined great publicity to get your tourists back eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, nchuckle said: The coherence of that response leads me to suspect you may have fallen to the average level here yourself. ???? .....or even some way below........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post toolpush Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 5 hours ago, tonray said: Next time you go in for open heart surgery...I hope the surgeon and nurses don't follow your advice...cough, cough Surgical masks are to prevent the doctors and nurses from infecting an open wound which is normally caused by bacteria which are an order of magnitude larger than virus's. Secondly I fail to see how a doctor not wearing a mask would infect a patient that would be wearing a breathing air mask with a respiratory covid virus. Here is a link to an interesting study on wearing masks during surgery: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1853618/ 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post toolpush Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 4 hours ago, kiteman9 said: I rarely see anyone wearing a i-95 surgical mask which are the only masks that are supposed to work. When everyone is virtue signalling, does the nature of the item being used to signal virtue really matter? 2 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toolpush Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 3 hours ago, shackleton said: I wear my face mask all the time when out walking in my compound or shopping down town its no big deal I think myself it should be compulsory for all to wear Won't be long before the UK does make it compulsory as to what is happening in Germany and Austria plus the arrival of winter How about Sweden? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbbooboo Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 33 minutes ago, tomacht8 said: The foreigners are often used as scapegoats here. Are to blame for plague and cholera. Are to blame that there is no more money. Are to blame for moral decline and much more. This is then always regularly injected into the minds of the normal population through the government-controlled media. Goverments like to use this tactic to distract attention from their own wrongdoings. The dilemma, on the one hand the foreigner with his unloved presence, and on the other hand as a necessary evil to get his money. Very well said. I have always felt barely tolerated as a "foreigner" in Thailand but i have long realized that its not personal. In conjunction with government-controlled media etc, its simply about a necessary evil to get my/our money. It doesn't stop me going to Thailand. I suspect it will always be this way. It is, as you say, a dilemma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abeabeabe Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Are they talking for Richard barrow ? I was shocked to see him taking photos without mask when he has been supporting all the vaccination nonsense since the start. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 6 hours ago, arick said: Does that mean when your on the beach in Jomethian you were a mask.. I can see it now all these forgiener going home with a big white circle on the faces. Yes, yes, even swim with masks ???? it is okay to use your brain, and do as you do in Rome. If most people around you use mask, you use mask to, and if not, and maybe where it on the chin, you still should use mask. But if you stay on the beach? Sit on a restaurant, of course not. Even driving around in the village now, it is 50/50 of those who use masks now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerfeet Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 18 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: While recently in the UK about 5-10% of people were wearing facemarks.. Life back to normal. People still contracting covid, but vaccinated, not suffering serious symptoms, hospitals not being overwhelmed. Thailand advertises itself as open, it must be a surprise for the tourists to arrive and see a bunch of Thai’s in Hazmat suits !!! Realistically, wearing a mask is no biggie, its easy enough (when not exercising) I wore them in the UK recently when indoors at a shopping mall or supermarket), I’m happy to also wear a mask here, but I don’t when in my own car with my own family !!! (which is where some of the rules are just idiotic). BUT.... that does not detract from the utter hypocrisy and xenophobic tendencies in stories such as this. - Everywhere I go, I see plenty of people not wearing masks. Go to a department store, a supermarket, a 7-11, everyone is wearing a mask. Walk down a street, not everyone is wearing a mask. I see Thai’s and foreigners not wearing masks... These headlines, these articles imply it is only foreigners who would be so offensive and behave so outrageously.... What I cannot understand is the Thais wear a mask when riding a motorcycle at 100 kilo per hour just in case the virus is traveling at that speed just to outrun it .but no crash hat afraid of a virus at 100 k an hour but not comming off without a crash hat what a load of wallies . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atpeace Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Moti24 said: The wearing of masks seems only to be policed (Pun) in Bangkok and the other tourist areas. Yet, only a few kms outside these areas, it's quite obvious that the usual percentage of Thais think laws don't really apply to them. I suspect that the real risk to covid spreading is in these outlying areas. If this mask rule is going to work, perhaps it would be a good idea to include everybody. Because Covid is an issue in rural areas? I don't live in Bangkok but hard to believe they take it as serious as rural Thailand. It is extremely rare to see Thais not wearing a mask in groups in all the places I've been. You can drive down a road and see what you want and not sure which one of us is delusional. We see what we want to see is what this pandemic has taught me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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