Omicron Will Arrive, Vaccination Urged – Official

[ozimoron]

7 minutes ago, Morpheus42 said:

 

I kindly disagree.

There are very powerful "president-maker" organizations in our world. Bilderberger, The Atlantic Bridge, Bohemian Grove and so on.

If you check the background of most presidents in our time, you will find deep connections between them and these kind of organizations.

While this surely is not a definite proof of any conspiracy, it shows that these people are coming out of a small circle and are not "like us", the plebs. So again, a conspiracy is not proven, but it is at least more likely after having these information.

 

And actually there were some presidents who opposed this worldwide agenda and refused the vaccines:

John Magufuli of Tanzania

Jovenel Moise of Haiti

Pierre Nkurunziza of Burundi

Hamed Bakayoko of Ivory Coast

Ambrose Dlamini of Eswatini

 

All of them died prematurely in the last 12 months.

While the "fact-check" of Reuters say there would be no evidence that their unnatural deaths are connected to their opposition of the COVID-agenda ( https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-africa-leaderscovid-idUSL1N2OY23Y ) I anyway think it is very suspicious, isn't it?

5 presidents oppose the COVID-restrictions in their country and refusing the vaccines, and exactly all of these 5 presidents die under weird circumstances in the time-span of just one year. In the same time, none other president died. Just these 5.

All of them were replaced by presidents who then changed the tune and imposed COVID-restrictions and started to import the vaccines.

 

 

 

Your stretching it a bit here. One did die of covid, another died a year before the vaccines were even available anywhere. But lets assume that you are right, what about every person in their cabinet and governments who would be need to be in on the deception? Not just these 5 but almost every single leader and their governments world wide. Plus the tens of thousands of academic institutions, doctors and medical experts who would also need to be in on the conspiracy (deception) or be blissfully unaware that vaccines don't work or whatever your claim really is. It's all a bit implausible isn't it?

[Blumpie]

Wel I see lots of alarmist click-hungry obscure websites with "science" in the http address are getting lots of clicks with doom and gloom predictions.  That's a prediction that I could have easily stood by! 

 

Word around the campfire is this is a nothing burger.  

[Jeffr2]

7 hours ago, Blumpie said:

Wel I see lots of alarmist click-hungry obscure websites with "science" in the http address are getting lots of clicks with doom and gloom predictions.  That's a prediction that I could have easily stood by! 

 

Word around the campfire is this is a nothing burger.  

You might want to find another campfire.  Nothing is confirmed at this point other than it's more transmissible.  Which in and of itself, is serious.

[Jeffr2]

7 hours ago, Blumpie said:

Wel I see lots of alarmist click-hungry obscure websites with "science" in the http address are getting lots of clicks with doom and gloom predictions.  That's a prediction that I could have easily stood by! 

 

Word around the campfire is this is a nothing burger.  

 

 

 

[Jeffr2]

[stephenterry]

15 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

Omicron is proving to be able to evade your natural immunity. So no, unless also vaccinated, you are wide open to getting Covid again. And potentially infecting others.

 

An immune vaccination may never be developed. Kinda like the flu.

You don't get it. People who are vaccinated are just as likely as naturally immunity to get Covid again. Whether that will also protect them from this mutation is yet to be established. Give it two weeks.

[stephenterry]

12 hours ago, Toany said:

At risk of getting mild symptoms

Which is the same for those with natural immunity.

[Jeffr2]

8 minutes ago, stephenterry said:

You don't get it. People who are vaccinated are just as likely as naturally immunity to get Covid again. Whether that will also protect them from this mutation is yet to be established. Give it two weeks.

You just don't get it.  People who are NOT vaccinated are 10x++ more likely to get the virus and pass it on, or get it again.  So far, no indication the current vaccines don't work.

 

This virus is evading natural immunity.  Thus, the high number of reinfections among those who've NOT been vaccinated.

[Jeffr2]

12 minutes ago, stephenterry said:

Which is the same for those with natural immunity.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/omicron-variant-has-substantial-ability-to-evade-natural-immunity-scientists-say/3432275/

 

Omicron Variant Has ‘Substantial Ability' to Evade Natural Immunity, Scientists Say

[kiwikeith]

The incidence of children getting sick from omicron in SA is in the link I posted by Dr Campbell, out of 1500 only about 300 in hospital and with mild symptoms, many were kept in Hospital for safety as omicron is so new, the charts and figures are in the video.

[Jeffr2]

5 minutes ago, kiwikeith said:

The incidence of children getting sick from omicron in SA is in the link I posted by Dr Campbell, out of 1500 only about 300 in hospital and with mild symptoms, many were kept in Hospital for safety as omicron is so new, the charts and figures are in the video.

300 in the hospital is a bunch.  Way more than 2 weeks ago.  And rising.  Many of these will have long covid.  Not good.

[sandyf]

23 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

Every country is the world has been through multiple waves of infections and we're going on 2 years now. That means it's over. You either learn to live with it or go insane fighting the wind.

Fortunately it will not be up to you to say when it is over.

[Rimmer]

A video post from social media has been removed

[sandyf]

22 hours ago, goatfarmer said:

As the good doctor in the OP said, there's no point attempting to delay the inevitable. 

Of course there is, buying time buys information, which leads to better decision making.

Early decisions taken by most countries, particularly in the west, were the wrong ones.

Remind me, how effective was the "bleach" solution?

Edited December 5, 2021 by sandyf

[Danderman123]

38 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

300 in the hospital is a bunch.  Way more than 2 weeks ago.  And rising.  Many of these will have long covid.  Not good.

We don't know if Omicron produces Long Covid. Yet. 

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, stephenterry said:

Which is the same for those with natural immunity.

It's still early. We will know more later in the week concerning outcomes from Omicron infection. 

[Jeffr2]

3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

We don't know if Omicron produces Long Covid. Yet. 

Pretty much guaranteed it will.  It's a covid variant, after all.  Even mild cases of covid produce long term effects.

[Danderman123]

12 hours ago, Benmart said:

Those who manufacture alarm bells, are often the same ones who benefit from such an industry. Follow the money and the accompaning lust for power.  The public welfare has little to do with this mess.

Who gained power during the Spanish Flu epidemic? 

[sandyf]

14 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

We don't know if Omicron produces Long Covid. Yet. 

So wait until the problem is well established before taking corrective action.

A policy favoured by many.

There is a saying about prevention and cure.

[stephenterry]

1 hour ago, Jeffr2 said:

You just don't get it.  People who are NOT vaccinated are 10x++ more likely to get the virus and pass it on, or get it again.  So far, no indication the current vaccines don't work.

 

This virus is evading natural immunity.  Thus, the high number of reinfections among those who've NOT been vaccinated.

Wait and see if this virus mutation also evades those who have been vaxxed, and if the symptoms are of little concern, which applies to those who have been reinfected in South Africa.

 

As yet, there has been no reports on this. I suspect Big Pharma don't want this to happen as their income source will be limited.  

 

Just for the record, being vaxxed does not give anyone immunity, it merely protects against serious illness - and vaxxed people can still ctch the viruse from anyone, including other vaxxed people.  Only a developed vaccine would put the end to it.

[Jeffr2]

4 minutes ago, stephenterry said:

Wait and see if this virus mutation also evades those who have been vaxxed, and if the symptoms are of little concern, which applies to those who have been reinfected in South Africa.

 

As yet, there has been no reports on this. I suspect Big Pharma don't want this to happen as their income source will be limited.  

 

Just for the record, being vaxxed does not give anyone immunity, it merely protects against serious illness - and vaxxed people can still ctch the viruse from anyone, including other vaxxed people.  Only a developed vaccine would put the end to it.

You were doing good until you blamed big pharma. Like they have anything to do with the virus. Other than developing life saving vaccines.

 

It's well known, by most anyway, that vaccines don't prevent you from getting covid. But do help keeping you out of the hospital or from dying. By orders or magnitude over unvaxxed.

[Danderman123]

21 minutes ago, stephenterry said:

 

Just for the record, being vaxxed does not give anyone immunity, it merely protects against serious illness - and vaxxed people can still ctch the viruse from anyone, including other vaxxed people.  Only a developed vaccine would put the end to it.

Vaccinated people are 10 times less likely to be infected by the Covid virus. 

[Mr Derek]

2 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

You were doing good until you blamed big pharma. Like they have anything to do with the virus. Other than developing life saving vaccines.

 

It's well known, by most anyway, that vaccines don't prevent you from getting covid. But do help keeping you out of the hospital or from dying. By orders or magnitude over unvaxxed.

It is less well known that a vaccine delivered universally all at the same time may be the best possible way to jeopardise the entire future of the human species. The effects will be subtle and long-term. Nobody knows, but there is already evidence. If you say that humans have been using vaccines for a long time without long-term harmful effects, I disagree strongly.

 

We are seeing the progressive weakening of the human immune system over generations as weak genes, that would naturally have been weeded out, are passed on. People are becoming increasingly susceptible to allergies, for example. For another, women are evolving narrower hips as surgical intervention prevents deaths in childbirth and results in the gene for narrow hips being passed on. Eventually, women will not be able to give birth normally. These are some of the barely-understood effects. Moreover, the first evidence of physical frailty is psychological frailty, and the latter has now become a pandemic in itself.

 

I don't advocate human intervention to deliberately weed out the weak genes, only the natural process. I call it a general principle that anything unnatural will have harmful consequences in the long term. Anything - even modern medicine. Especially modern medicine.

 

 

[Jeffr2]

2 minutes ago, Mr Derek said:

It is less well known that a vaccine delivered universally all at the same time may be the best possible way to jeopardise the entire future of the human species. The effects will be subtle and long-term. Nobody knows, but there is already evidence. If you say that humans have been using vaccines for a long time without long-term harmful effects, I disagree strongly.

 

We are seeing the progressive weakening of the human immune system over generations as weak genes, that would naturally have been weeded out, are passed on. People are becoming increasingly susceptible to allergies, for example. For another, women are evolving narrower hips as surgical intervention prevents deaths in childbirth and results in the gene for narrow hips being passed on. Eventually, women will not be able to give birth normally. These are some of the barely-understood effects. Moreover, the first evidence of physical frailty is psychological frailty, and the latter has now become a pandemic in itself.

 

I don't advocate human intervention to deliberately weed out the weak genes, only the natural process. I call it a general principle that anything unnatural will have harmful consequences in the long term. Anything - even modern medicine. Especially modern medicine.

 

 

It's well known that the vaccine says millions of lives and are our only way out of this mess. Natural processes would devastate our world. Especially with this new variant.

[Danderman123]

18 minutes ago, Mr Derek said:

It is less well known that a vaccine delivered universally all at the same time may be the best possible way to jeopardise the entire future of the human species. The effects will be subtle and long-term. Nobody knows, but there is already evidence. If you say that humans have been using vaccines for a long time without long-term harmful effects, I disagree strongly.

 

We are seeing the progressive weakening of the human immune system over generations as weak genes, that would naturally have been weeded out, are passed on. People are becoming increasingly susceptible to allergies, for example. For another, women are evolving narrower hips as surgical intervention prevents deaths in childbirth and results in the gene for narrow hips being passed on. Eventually, women will not be able to give birth normally. These are some of the barely-understood effects. Moreover, the first evidence of physical frailty is psychological frailty, and the latter has now become a pandemic in itself.

 

I don't advocate human intervention to deliberately weed out the weak genes, only the natural process. I call it a general principle that anything unnatural will have harmful consequences in the long term. Anything - even modern medicine. Especially modern medicine.

 

 

I dunno. Covid is pretty unnatural to the human body. Do you have any recommendations how to stop it?

 

And tell me about Polio….. are you suggesting that the Polio vaccine was a bad idea?

[stephenterry]

3 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

You were doing good until you blamed big pharma. Like they have anything to do with the virus. Other than developing life saving vaccines.

 

It's well known, by most anyway, that vaccines don't prevent you from getting covid. But do help keeping you out of the hospital or from dying. By orders or magnitude over unvaxxed.

Yes, but there are cheaper drugs that today's hospitals use and anyone could also use at home, if they have not been banned. Anti-depressants, that are anti-inflammatory, also work well. In fact, any tried and tested medicine  - or food - that causes an anti-inflammatory response, works.

 

The truth is that Western humans are generally not healthy owing, in the main, to a processed fast food dietary regime, and suffer from a range of illnesses. Obesity and diabetes are most common. These people need a vax to boost their immune system.

 

Western governments who are dead scared that they could let peope die en-masse look to these Vaxxes as a future blame 'get out of jail' free card. Thus Big Pharma, instead of promoting cheap effective drugs produce these highly expensive vaxxes to increase their profits.   

 

 

 

 

 

 

[stephenterry]

3 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Vaccinated people are 10 times less likely to be infected by the Covid virus. 

I think you are mislead, so please supply the source of this statistic - which, IMO, is total rubbish.

[Jeffr2]

2 minutes ago, stephenterry said:

I think you are mislead, so please supply the source of this statistic - which, IMO, is total rubbish.

You're kidding, right?  Everybody should know what he posted.  It's widely published.  Stunning you're not aware of it.

[stephenterry]

1 hour ago, Mr Derek said:

People are becoming increasingly susceptible to allergies, for example.

That is crystal clear. When I was a young kid, decades ago, allergies apart from hayfever, were uncommon, ironically owing to a less sterile upbringing. 

[stephenterry]

6 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

You're kidding, right?  Everybody should know what he posted.  It's widely published.  Stunning you're not aware of it.

Good, you caught me just in time to order a few beers at my favourite restaurant.