This article says vaccines used in Thailand little help with omicron

[Elkski]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/most-of-the-world-s-vaccines-likely-won-t-prevent-infection-from-omicron/ar-AARXuDf

 

Pretty bleak times ahead in USA the next month.  I worry about the rest of the World without access to mRNA shots

 

 

[Led Lolly Yellow Lolly]

One way or another, we're going to have to find some way to accept that the world has potentially changed for the rest of our lives.

[Sheryl]

We are still in early stages of understanding how Omicron behaves in people who have prior immunity from either vaccination or  prior COVID infection. It is quite possible that, even if infected, people will still be protected from serious illness but this remains to be verified.

 

A lot of the studies on COVID immunity are based on measuring people's antibody levels (as that is the easiest thing to do) but antibodies are only one part of the immune system response to a pathogen.

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

We are still in early stages of understanding how Omicron behaves in people who have prior immunity from either vaccination or  prior COVID infection. It is quite possible that, even if infected, people will still be protected from serious illness but this remains to be verified.

 

A lot of the studies on COVID immunity are based on measuring people's antibody levels (as that is the easiest thing to do) but antibodies are only one part of the immune system response to a pathogen.

Very good laymans explainer here, made it easier for me to understand anyway...lol  'Carpet bombers' of the innate immune system'

 

Why antibodies aren't the only defense against Omicron

 

B and T cells: intelligence officers and trained assassins

If the invaders aren't driven off, the "adaptive" immune system comes into play.

A few days into a first infection, "B cells" wise up to the threat and start pumping out antibodies.

Vaccination also trains B cells—mainly inside lymph nodes in our armpits, near the site of injection—to be primed and ready.

 

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-12-antibodies-defense-omicron.html

[fredscats]

Based on the reference vaccine information from MOPH released on 9 Dec, 2021, the interval time AZ + AZ + Moderna; should be 3-6 months from the last dose.

 

If you received the 2 dose  18 oct, 2021; then, the 3^rd booster will be the mid of Jan, 2022

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[KhunBENQ]

Even here in the village they now did booster shots with Pfizer.

I got my Moderna in Khon Kaen last Friday.

Sino* has been outphased as far as I know.

AZ may still be used for first timers.

And whether this Omicron justifies the current level of panic/measures is another question.

Too early to draw conclusions.

 

 

Edited December 20, 2021 by KhunBENQ

[gearbox]

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3159784/omicron-chinas-sinovac-covid-19-vaccine-fails-antibodies-test

 

"Of 25 people who received a full two-dose course of CoronaVac, none were found to have detectable levels of neutralising antibodies, according to study author and top infectious disease expert Yuen Kwok-yung and his team.

For those fully vaccinated with Pfizer-BioNTech, five out of 25 people had detectable levels. But those levels were 35 to 40 times lower than against the original coronavirus strain, and saw “significant” reduction as compared to response to previous variants Beta and Delta."

 

With Pfizer 5 out of 25 had detectable levels 35 to 40 times lower....not a great result either. Both vaccines require boosters.

 

I need a Pfizer booster but I have only 3.5 months since my second dose, wondering if they are going to squeeze the recommended 6 months period for boosters.