ICE vs EV, the debate thread

[Ralf001]

10 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Now it's been revealed that he had a Xiaomi SU7 shipped to Chicago. He has been driving it for the last six months and says he "doesn't want to give it up".
 

 

Maybe he likes driving a sedan... something his company do not offer !

[KhunLA]

No need to register to read.   CEO won't even drive his own crap ... wake up people.

 

"Ford CEO Loves Daily Driving an Electric Sedan from a Chinese Competitor

 

Ford CEO Jim Farley admitted he has been driving a Xiaomi SU7 for six months and said he "doesn't want to give it up."

 

Besides Tesla, has any US auto maker, (or any) done this ....

 

... "The Xiaomi SU7 was met with such popular demand in China that it reportedly sold out of its entire 2024 production run on the first day. In fact, Xiaomi is said to have sold 100,000 units before the first model was even delivered."

 

CN always accused of stealing tech.   What do think Ford R&D are going to do with that Xiaomi.   Well, might have to order another one, if CEO doesn't give it up.

 

[josephbloggs]

29 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

Maybe he likes driving a sedan... something his company do not offer !

 

Yeah I'm sure that's it, well done.

[KhunLA]

39 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

Maybe he likes driving a sedan... something his company do not offer !

I wouldn't want to drive these POS either ...

 

[Ralf001]

1 minute ago, KhunLA said:

I wouldn't want to drive these POS either ...

 

 

well... if I was sedan lover I would not drive them either.

But iam a slut, I'll drive anything.

From the ford stable would love a Mustang Dark Horse and a F150 Raptor.

Love the smell of burnt dinosaur juice in the morning !

 

[KhunLA]

25 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

well... if I was sedan lover I would not drive them either.

But iam a slut, I'll drive anything.

From the ford stable would love a Mustang Dark Horse and a F150 Raptor.

Love the smell of burnt dinosaur juice in the morning !

 

Just another under performer from the USA 

 

F source

X source

[Gweiloman]

10 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Just another under performer from the USA 

 

F source

X source

Seems like anti-EVers love the smell of being left in the dust lol.

[JBChiangRai]

20 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

Seems like anti-EVers love the smell of being left in the dust lol.

 

Come on you anti-EV'ers, wake up & smell the coffee

[Ralf001]

43 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Just another under performer from the USA 

 

 

F source

X source

 

 

Yeah I give zero <deleted> for these electric things... would own one for a round town buzz box for sure but yeah, zero <deleted>.

[Gweiloman]

55 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Just another under performer from the USA 

 

F source

X source

Khun, you have a knack for such things. Are you able to work out how many “bales of hay “ is required to “power” this horse 100 kms as opposed to the Xiaomi? The cost savings of the Xiaomi must be off the charts.

[KhunLA]

34 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

Khun, you have a knack for such things. Are you able to work out how many “bales of hay “ is required to “power” this horse 100 kms as opposed to the Xiaomi? The cost savings of the Xiaomi must be off the charts.

Give me  sec .... 

 

 

Got another delivery coming ...

 

[vinny41]

CATL launches Freevoy battery for hybrid cars that can offer over 400 km range

 

Contemporary Amperex Technology Co Ltd (CATL, SHE: 300750) has launched a new battery for hybrid vehicles that is expected to enable a battery electric vehicle (BEV)-like experience for extended-range electric vehicles (EREVs) and plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs).

The Chinese power battery giant released the Freevoy Super Hybrid Battery at an event in Beijing today, saying it offers a battery range of more than 400 kilometers for hybrid vehicles and supports 4 C fast charging.

https://cnevpost.com/2024/10/24/catl-launches-freevoy-battery-for-hybrids/

[Ralf001]

9 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

Khun, you have a knack for such things. Are you able to work out how many “bales of hay “ is required to “power” this horse 100 kms as opposed to the Xiaomi? The cost savings of the Xiaomi must be off the charts.

Dark Horse is 13lt/100km according tothe windscreen sticker.

so bout Bt.450 per 100.

[tomazbodner]

Here's one that sort of settles the score...

 

Ford CEO Loves Daily Driving an Electric Sedan from a Chinese Competitor

Ford CEO Jim Farley admitted he has been driving a Xiaomi SU7 for six months and said he "doesn't want to give it up."

 

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a62694325/ford-ceo-jim-farley-daily-drives-xiaomi-su7/

 

[Ralf001]

4 hours ago, tomazbodner said:

Here's one that sort of settles the score...

 

Ford CEO Loves Daily Driving an Electric Sedan from a Chinese Competitor

Ford CEO Jim Farley admitted he has been driving a Xiaomi SU7 for six months and said he "doesn't want to give it up."

 

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a62694325/ford-ceo-jim-farley-daily-drives-xiaomi-su7/

 

 

And posted for the 3rd time....You EV Fanboi's sure do like a bandwagon !

[JBChiangRai]

3 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

 

And posted for the 3rd time....You EV Fanboi's sure do like a bandwagon !

 

I'm flabbergasted, you can count Ralfyboi !

 

 

[Ralf001]

33 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

I'm flabbergasted, you can count Ralfyboi !

 

 

 

Rahter surpising given my penchance for inhaling sweet sweet gasoline fumes !

[tomazbodner]

5 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

 

And posted for the 3rd time....You EV Fanboi's sure do like a bandwagon !

I'm looking out the window... all is see are shadows of some towers nearby through the haze making the rest of the sky grey. That's the view I'll have until June or July. You ICE fanboys are surely contributing to it. Please go out and use your lungs to filter the air for us a bit, will you?

[KhunLA]

12 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

Dark Horse is 13lt/100km according tothe windscreen sticker.

so bout Bt.450 per 100.

Our MG ZS BEV cost per 100 kms...

... ฿0 @ home w/excess solar

... ฿52 @ home w/PEA

... ฿100 @ CS (฿8/kWh) when O&A

 

Just takes a little bit longer, ~4 secs to get to 90 kph, with a lot more room & comfort during the journey.

[Ralf001]

12 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Our MG ZS BEV cost per 100 kms...

... ฿0 @ home w/excess solar

... ฿52 @ home w/PEA

... ฿100 @ CS (฿8/kWh) when O&A

 

Just takes a little bit longer, ~4 secs to get to 90 kph, with a lot more room & comfort during the journey.

Work has given me a Ranger Raptor to drive.

Cost  to fill (Benzine 95) is Bt3400.

Range is 500km per tank, bit more if I dont give it the berries in Baja mode !

 

[JBChiangRai]

13 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Work has given me a Ranger Raptor to drive.

Cost  to fill (Benzine 95) is Bt3400.

Range is 500km per tank, bit more if I dont give it the berries in Baja mode !

 

it’s too slow, my EV does 0 to 100 in 3.8 seconds

[josephbloggs]

18 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Work has given me a Ranger Raptor to drive.

Cost  to fill (Benzine 95) is Bt3400.

Range is 500km per tank, bit more if I dont give it the berries in Baja mode !

 

 

Sorry to hear that.

[KhunLA]

23 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Work has given me a Ranger Raptor to drive.

Cost  to fill (Benzine 95) is Bt3400.

Range is 500km per tank, bit more if I dont give it the berries in Baja mode !

 

Our ICE version of ZS cost about ฿1600 to fill up (91), and 600 kms range (14kpL).  About ฿50k a year for our average 20k kms a year 

 

That alone was reason enough to go BEV.  Added performance was a nice plus.

[Ralf001]

16 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

 

Sorry to hear that.

Come with a fuel card... no cost impact to me !

[Ralf001]

22 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

it’s too slow, my EV does 0 to 100 in 3.8 seconds

 

thats awesome.... and yet I still give no <deleted> !

[motdaeng]

6 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

thats awesome.... and yet I still give no <deleted> !

 

for sure, we all can see that ... 

[Pib]

There is a 25 Oct 2024 Bangkok Post news article titled as below reflecting some pretty bad Thailand car production numbers (ICEV and EV) for domestic and export.  Down...down....down.....   Google below to find article:

 

Car production to miss target as sales, exports fall

 

[mitebbots]

does the Yaris Cross uses an electric motor for assist or similar to Prius that uses braking to recharge? there is zero technical info on the Toyota web site, not even millage that I can see.

[vinny41]

13 minutes ago, mitebbots said:

does the Yaris Cross uses an electric motor for assist or similar to Prius that uses braking to recharge? there is zero technical info on the Toyota web site, not even millage that I can see.

see this thread here

 

[KhunLA]

Anyone running out of electrons with their BEV would have to be one of the dumbest drivers.

 

Took ours down to the low side of 6%, (purposely) and still had an estimated 20kms of range left.  Got the usual 30% charge remaining warning, and good for at least 100 kms more.  Then got 4 more audio warnings as the additional ~5% wound down, along with idiot icon on display.