ICE vs EV, the debate thread

[novacova]

The Trans Am was also known as the Screaming Chicken…

We used call all Asian cars rice burners way back when .

 

 

 

[vinny41]

Suzuki launching e Vitara ( BEV) next year in Thailand

https://www.car250.com/suzuki-e-vitara-th-new.html

[metisdead]

Off topic bickering and baiting posts about the use of the name of the Celerio have been removed.

[transam]

13 hours ago, novacova said:

The Trans Am was also known as the Screaming Chicken…

We used call all Asian cars rice burners way back when .

 

 

 

But those of us eagle eyed can see it is obviously an Eagle, a Firebird......🤭

[novacova]

15 minutes ago, transam said:

But those of us eagle eyed can see it is obviously an Eagle, a Firebird......🤭

It’s a phoenix not an eagle. Trans Am is a souped up version of a Firebird, same car. The car in the photo is a TransAm aka Screaming Chicken.

[transam]

1 minute ago, novacova said:

It’s a phoenix not an eagle. Trans Am is a supped up version of a Firebird, same car. The car in the photo is a TransAm aka Screaming Chicken.

Could well be, but does it look like a chicken or an eagle....?  🤭

 

 

Screaming chicken is a nickname, probably created by the Chevy boys....

[transam]

It would seem that many of you EV-ers here, going by this EV thread, are very interested in the Celerio (which is Latin for Swift), so may I suggest you go book a test drive..............

 

 

[KhunLA]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

Yes, a Celerio, Latin for SWIFT, the previous version of the car, which I corrected you on yesterday....😉

Again, still going on with your false narrative of correcting me.  This is why I don't reply to your post, as you go on and on and on, repetitive of nonsense.   

 

2 models, Celerio & Swift, made by Suzuki, and nobody cares what it translate to in or from Latin.   Dead language, and appropriate for soon to be dead manufacturer if they continue putting out overpriced crap.

 

Might have to put you back on that list, spare everyone from you silliness 

 

You are good for a chuckle though.

[KhunLA]

12 minutes ago, transam said:

It would seem that many of you EV-ers here, going by this EV thread, are very interested in the Celerio (which is Latin for Swift), so may I suggest you go book a test drive..............

 

 

 

I hope they upgrade the specs, because that's just embarrassingly slow 

 

Bothe the Celerio, spec below, and Swift, specs in quoted post below.  Especially compared to MG3 HEV, at about the same price.

 

Max Power	65.71bhp@5500rpm
Max Torque	89Nm@3500rpm

 

 

14 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Swift .. @ ฿567,000

You can call it 'Swift', but it's not

Maximum compression (PS/rpm) 83/6,000 

Maximum torque (Newton-meter/rpm) 108/4,400 

 

And On Topic as always .... the new MG3 HEV @ ฿579,900

Engine: 1.5-liter Atkinson-cycle 4-cylinder petrol engine with 102 PS and 128 Nm of torque 

Electric motor: 136 PS with 250 Nm  👍 👍

Total system output: 194 PS

 

 

 

 

 

[transam]

48 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Again, still going on with your false narrative of correcting me.  This is why I don't reply to your post, as you go on and on and on, repetitive of nonsense.   

 

2 models, Celerio & Swift, made by Suzuki, and nobody cares what it translate to in or from Latin.   Dead language, and appropriate for soon to be dead manufacturer if they continue putting out overpriced crap.

 

Might have to put you back on that list, spare everyone from you silliness 

 

You are good for a chuckle though.

It seems you don't like being educated on how a brand makes a decision on a model name, like Celerio, Latin for Swift.......

Get over it chap, try sticking to EV's which is what the thread is about, not Mrs.T's choice of transport, which for some reason YOU and others keep bringing up, and very strange..

[transam]

40 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

 

I hope they upgrade the specs, because that's just embarrassingly slow 

 

Bothe the Celerio, spec below, and Swift, specs in quoted post below.  Especially compared to MG3 HEV, at about the same price.

 

Max Power	65.71bhp@5500rpm
Max Torque	89Nm@3500rpm

 

 

 

How interesting on an EV thread.........

Now calm down and get a grip, man......🤪

[4myr]

16 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Battery breakthrough extends EV range to over 3,000 miles on a single charge

 

 

It's still at technological infancy level 3 [Technology Readiness Level], however promising because the material used [silicone as anode] is abundant, compared to the scarce niobium anode battery of Toshiba, which is already commercially viable [TRL 9].

[4myr]

1 hour ago, transam said:

It would seem that many of you EV-ers here, going by this EV thread, are very interested in the Celerio (which is Latin for Swift), so may I suggest you go book a test drive..............

 

 

 

Reminds me of 2014 when I test drove this noisy car in the Netherlands and had to compete with Kia Picanto.

Fast forward 10 years later, the Kia is available and priced at 19k euro and Suzuki lost the competition and is no longer available. I wonder how long you have to wait for spare parts coming from India.

 

If you need a good short commute car, just look for a low mileage/year BYD Dolphin with plenty of battery warranty in store or wait for the Seagull.

 

[transam]

6 minutes ago, 4myr said:

 

Reminds me of 2014 when I test drove this noisy car in the Netherlands and had to compete with Kia Picanto.

Fast forward 10 years later, the Kia is available and priced at 19k euro and Suzuki lost the competition and is no longer available. I wonder how long you have to wait for spare parts coming from India.

 

If you need a good short commute car, just look for a low mileage/year BYD Dolphin with plenty of battery warranty in store or wait for the Seagull.

 

The Suzuki Celerio is NOT a noisy engine, so I will dismiss your claim and move on.......🙄

[JBChiangRai]

1 minute ago, transam said:

.... and move on.......🙄

 Oh! Pleeaaasseee make my day

[transam]

2 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 Oh! Pleeaaasseee make my day

Please don't chop my posts, though, you are another that has been educated on an ICE vehicle EV-ers have continually brought up in this EV thread.........🤭

 

Which is encouraging, go take a test drive of the CVT equipped Celerio, which is Latin for SWIFT..........

[metisdead]

Some more troll posts have been removed.

[JBChiangRai]

18 minutes ago, transam said:

Please don't chop my posts, though, you are another that has been educated on an ICE vehicle EV-ers have continually brought up in this EV thread.........🤭

 

Which is encouraging, go take a test drive of the CVT equipped Celerio, which is Latin for SWIFT..........

 

Chopping posts is allowed for emphasis and where it doesn't change the meaning of the post.

[Andrew Dwyer]

22 minutes ago, transam said:

Please don't chop my posts, though, you are another that has been educated on an ICE vehicle EV-ers have continually brought up in this EV thread.........🤭

 

Which is encouraging, go take a test drive of the CVT equipped Celerio, which is Latin for SWIFT..........

But Celery in Esperanto !!

 

( Latin and Esperanto equally important today i think )

[JBChiangRai]

Merda Celerio   (latin)

[josephbloggs]

40 minutes ago, transam said:

The Suzuki Celerio is NOT a noisy engine, so I will dismiss your claim and move on.......🙄

No, course it isn't. Puny little three cylinder engines are known for their silence, especially under strain (which it is - all the time). Luckily on the very rare occasion when you can actually hear it is purrs like a cat.
 

 

[transam]

2 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

No, course it isn't. Puny little three cylinder engines are known for their silence, especially under strain (which it is - all the time). Luckily on the very rare occasion when you can actually hear it is purrs like a cat.
 

 

Is that one maintained/serviced in India.........

Now ask for the sound inside the car NOT in India.............🤣