1 hour ago, ukrules said:

That is a massive red flag and suggests that covid is indeed spreading very quickly and widely throughout the community right now.

The true number of infections is going to be immeasurably higher than the detected number, by that I'm talking about hundreds of thousands per day, every day.

Probably about right, here are the estimates from the IHME model for Thailand's true case numbers. The mean estimate being 176k daily

 

 

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-models#institute-for-health-metrics-and-evaluation-ihme

1 hour ago, ukrules said:

That is a massive red flag and suggests that covid is indeed spreading very quickly and widely throughout the community right now.

The true number of infections is going to be immeasurably higher than the detected number, by that I'm talking about hundreds of thousands per day, every day.

It would be if correct. The 24000 figure is not tests completed, it is the total of positive PCR + positive ATK tests. One person read it wrong and now it seems to have almost become a fact, with all the daft commentators assuming before actually reading.

In the old days this was called 'fake news'.

6 hours ago, tomyami said:

they have at least another month of this high positivity rate of 60%+ also mean its ripping through many wont know they got it, steep rise will be matched with a sharp drop as in many countries some who have fully reopened.

Omicron is the cure for covid it just spead fast

Except for those who are hospitalized or die.

2 hours ago, ukrules said:

That is a massive red flag and suggests that covid is indeed spreading very quickly and widely throughout the community right now.

The true number of infections is going to be immeasurably higher than the detected number, by that I'm talking about hundreds of thousands per day, every day.

Sorry I misread the figures. The infection rate is approx 20%.

 

I want to stir the pot a bit here. Like most of you everyday we hear about the numbers I've always wonder how correct are the numbers?

 

As many of you know months ago the Mayor in Pattaya licensed a hundred if not more hotels to be ASQ. I can't say what is going on anywhere else except in Pattaya, two months ago a family member Thai daughter tested positive 2 months ago on the Antigens, retest the next day same results but had no systoms of any kind two days ago someone very closed same thing prior I had already heard some rumors to what I will note has happened the last three days.

 

The person tested positive on the Antigen test, the next morning same thing but this time maybe a defect the result for positive is 2 lines both red but the second one was like pink. The person was concern thinking that the County Hospital (B) might be over run and heard one could get tested at the private hospital just off 2nd Rd, and Klang, we went in the back signs all over in English PCR test 3500 but no one was there advise of the positive test result that if you want to get tested to confirm 3500 nothing is free here if you want free go down the road to County (B).

 

At 12:30 we arrived ask was told testing happens between 7am and 11:30am I smile thinking OK. come back the next day we cue up a hour later goes to an area, story is told, respond was told go home pack a bag and come back tomorrow at 7:30 A.M. to be quarantine. No test, doesn't see a Doctor or nurse they just take your word that your positive therefore your infected although zero signs and I mean zero, no temperature, no sore throat, not told to go home and quarantine yourself and report back if necessary QR code stuff.

 

Next morning report, back of a unfinished medical building there are a few hundred people who have packed their bags told it is going to be long so take off but I said I'm a good soldier and will stick around to the end because I want to see what is going on? I see people coming with their bags packed as if they are going on an overnight outing they go into the building get seated and shuttle for one location to another they see no doctor no nurse but everyone gets a chest X-ray no one is told of the results after a few hours when you have gone through the process a mini bus comes and takes you to your quarantine hotel somewhere in Pattaya, you share a room with another positive person in the same situation.

 

You aren't told anything medical the assumption everyone being carted off and quarantine are in the same boat their antigen test came up positive. They are given instructions, bags of pills, from the photos the rooms are very nice no visitors and certain dry supplies can be brought on specific day. Three days they are to test themselves Antigen and forward the results QR, on the 5th day they come and cart you off for another chest x-ray and return you back to the hotel, to finish the rest of your quarantine they never see a Doctor or Nurse and not told of the results of the xrays!

 

I'm thinking coming away with the thought is this a SCAM?  it seems on the surface someone has made some kind of deal to supply closed hotels with customers and then you got the hospital who might be writing reports to get paid by the government because this is all FREE for Thais! 

 

Are these numbers correct " rising "  hundred each day in Pattaya alone from my observation Friday!  Does something Smell?????  it seems quarantine that is the answer and cure?

7 hours ago, Virt said:

The positivity rate are not always an indication of to few tests being done.

 

During most of the pandemic here in Denmark we were below 5%, and tested most per million in the world.

So that gave us a good indication of the real numbers.

 

Omicron totally messed that up and we're now at positives % near 30% the last week.

 

 

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/positive-rate-daily-smoothed?tab=chart&time=2020-04-16..latest&country=~DNK

 

 

 

That's because so many are infected and we changed the guidelines for PCR testing. 

Now you're just supposed to take a test if you have symptoms or close contact with a person tested positive, so now it's a more targeted group that get tested.

 

We also dropped all restrictions and that means no need for negative tests anymore for the unvaxed, for them being able to visit restaurants and such.

So that's a large group that stopped testing several times a week, which also narrows the target group.

 

We're still testing approx 40 times more than Thailand per million, so our daily numbers of positives are still a lot closer to the truth compared to Thailand.

 

 

 

But this mass testing is extremely expensive and they are talking about dropping the mass PCR testing.

After omicron arrived and omicron BA.2 sub variant is almost 100% dominant, we really don't need the data to show if 1000 or 100000 is infected each day.

We can look at the daily data for those in ICU instead, and that's not worrying even if we still have HUGE numbers of positives.

 

Thailands 610 admissions to ICU are higher than it's supposed to be so i would assume they still have a lot of Delta cases.

If all in ICU are omicron something is not right.

 

Does Thailand have a statistic showing which variant the ones in ICU are tested positive for?

 

It could be that a low number of people have had a booster and others have only had two shots of the sino vaccines. As stated by medical professionals evidence shows that a third shot is required to give greater protection to those who are vulnerable.

PCR test positive cases, total of 15,882 official new infections. 24 official covid deaths recorded.

 

Rapid tests positive cases, 8,311 bringing the total of PCR and ATK results to 24,193

https://ddc.moph.go.th/covid19-dashboard/

 

Rolling 7 day average chart from 11th Feb

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/thailand

Thailand reports 14,900 new COVID19 cases, 26 deaths, 9,810 recoveries

 

File photo

 

Thailand on Monday (February 14) reported 14,900 new COVID-19 cases, 9,810 recoveries and 26 additional deaths over the past 24 hours. 

 

Full story: https://aseannow.com/topic/1250218-thailand-reports-14900 new-covid19-cases-26-deaths-9810-recoveries/

 

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