Building a new house in Isaan

[Muhendis]

6 minutes ago, Encid said:

Thank you.

I just found some very useful information about it from the Land Development Department.

I showed that Land Development Department video to my wife and she said that's the stuff which she named Ya Fak earlier. If you want some from the villagers that's what they call it in Thai.

[MJCM]

2 minutes ago, unheard said:

I can not find a single instance of that name anywhere on the internet.

Can you please point in the right direction?

Thanks.

ต้นไทรเกาหลี Google!!!

[unheard]

3 minutes ago, MJCM said:

ต้นไทรเกาหลี Google!!!

Thank you!!!????

[MJCM]

43 minutes ago, Encid said:

So probably a good plant for a privacy hedge, but not as an erosion preventive plant on a slope?

 

I need something to plant on a slope as well as the first metre of flat land at the top of the slope.

 

Erosion prevention is priority one, having a privacy screen is secondary.

Yep could be we only use it for privacy! (and they are great at it)

 

 

 

 

[sometimewoodworker]

49 minutes ago, Encid said:

Thank you.

I just found some very useful information about it from the Land Development Department.

It does require management & is not very shade tolerant, but this is some that hasn’t been managed much for 10+ years 

 

then this was 8 years ago

 

 

it is also very good at treating dirty or contaminated water so plant it over your leach field.

 

https://www.vetiver.org/AUS_stabilization.htm

Edited April 2, 2022 by sometimewoodworker

[Isan Farang]

27 minutes ago, unheard said:

I can not find a single instance of that name anywhere on the internet.

Can you please point in the right direction?

Thanks.

Sorry not sure whare to find on the net, just print a picture from this thread and go to a garden center. Perhaps some one here can post the name in Thai for you to give to the shop.

Edited April 2, 2022 by Isan Farang

[MJCM]

1 minute ago, Isan Farang said:

Sorry not sure whare to find on the net, just print a picure from this thread and go to a garden center. Perhaps some one here can post the name in Thai for you to give to the shop.

Already done

 

 

[Encid]

12 minutes ago, sometimewoodworker said:

 

What a beautiful leelawadee... 

 

I might have to sneak by your place and alibaba a cutting... 

[Encid]

On 3/31/2022 at 4:08 PM, Encid said:

The gate I want to have (and I have admittedly never seen one here in Thailand) is a lockable rut-runner gate that is wide enough to allow tractors and other farming equipment to pass through.

 

The gate would look something like this:

 

 

 

In the future we will look at automating it by adding a motor with remote control, but for the short term it will suffice to keep unwanted animals (cows, dogs, people etc) off the property.

As the wall will be 3m high, the gate should probably be at least 2m high,

More on this subject...

My dear wife has informed me that we cannot have this kind of gate... it must not be able to be "see-through", as it has to keep all our money inside and a "see-through" gate will allow the money to escape.

[Excel]

20 minutes ago, Encid said:

More on this subject...

My dear wife has informed me that we cannot have this kind of gate... it must not be able to be "see-through", as it has to keep all our money inside and a "see-through" gate will allow the money to escape.

That picture shows what looks like rail tracks so you want them too to move your money about ? ????

Edited April 2, 2022 by Excel

[Encid]

I have also revised the roof outline and the location for the water storage tank for the Guest House. (Thanks for those suggestions!)

Having larger eaves will help keep the weather out of the open kitchen/rest area, and also provide cover to park motocycs and other vehicles, as well as possible future water storage tanks

The expanded roof area will also assist in the collection of rain water which can be added to the water storage tank.

The rain water will help to dilute and soften the well water.

 

Changing the orientation also means that we must change the orientation of our bed... your head must never point towards the direction of the setting sun (west) when sleeping. Another Thai tradition/cultural thing...

 

[sometimewoodworker]

1 hour ago, Encid said:

What a beautiful leelawadee... 

 

I might have to sneak by your place and alibaba a cutting... 

SWMBO is the one who does all the garden.

 

As to sneaking by, you haven’t completed your profile so I don’t know if that’s on the cards, but they propagate from a branch easily so it would be likely that SWMBO might be agreeable.

[MJCM]

@Encid

 

After your build can you please help us design our next property!! ????

 

You are really good at the drawings, I used Sweet Home 3d to design them!!

 

[Encid]

@MJCM

Thanks for the compliment!

I am using AutoCAD to produce the drawings (to scale) in 2D.

But I am by no means an expert using the software... self-taught!

 

I too am using Sweet Home 3D to produce 3D images of the main house, but I find that although the results are very good conceptually, they are not accurate and the libraries available don't have everything I want.

For example, steps and stairs are just not intuitive... neither are ramps and slopes.

 

I will post some of my preliminary designs for the main house later.

[sometimewoodworker]

6 minutes ago, Encid said:

@MJCM

Thanks for the compliment!

I am using AutoCAD to produce the drawings (to scale) in 2D.

But I am by no means an expert using the software... self-taught!

 

I too am using Sweet Home 3D to produce 3D images of the main house, but I find that although the results are very good conceptually, they are not accurate and the libraries available don't have everything I want.

For example, steps and stairs are just not intuitive... neither are ramps and slopes.

 

I will post some of my preliminary designs for the main house later.

Do you realise that going from AutoCAD to SketchUp is really easy for walls and floors? Also they are by nature exact as to measurements, if your AutoCAD is accurate of course.

Edited April 2, 2022 by sometimewoodworker

[Muhendis]

12 minutes ago, sometimewoodworker said:

Do you realise that going from AutoCAD to SketchUp is really easy for walls and floors? Also they are by nature exact as to measurements, if your AutoCAD is accurate of course.

Yeah.

I use Sketchup for all my work too. It's good for showing where shadows will be all year round and at any time of day.

[Encid]

14 minutes ago, sometimewoodworker said:

Do you realise that going from AutoCAD to SketchUp is really easy for walls and floors? Also they are by nature exact as to measurements, if your AutoCAD is accurate of course.

Thanks for the tip... I might have to give it a go.

[Encid]

Here is a layout showing the raised area and the locations of both the main house and the guest house relative to the government road and the pond.

 

Area (including the pond) is approx 3700 m²  or 2.3 rai, with a perimeter of 264m.

Area (excluding the pond) is approx 2600 m² or 1.6 rai, with a perimeter of 210m.

 

[MJCM]

53 minutes ago, Encid said:

@MJCM

Thanks for the compliment!

I am using AutoCAD to produce the drawings (to scale) in 2D.

But I am by no means an expert using the software... self-taught!

 

I too am using Sweet Home 3D to produce 3D images of the main house, but I find that although the results are very good conceptually, they are not accurate and the libraries available don't have everything I want.

For example, steps and stairs are just not intuitive... neither are ramps and slopes.

 

I will post some of my preliminary designs for the main house later.

This was the roof design (of the build we were originally planning to do for our current house) but because we wanted to leave urgently our old house we decided on a very basic build!!

 

U-Shaped house raised approx 1,5-2m above ground level

 

Did this with sweethome 3d!!

 

Still thinking of doing this to our current house but would be a MAJOR operation!!

 

 

 

Edited April 2, 2022 by MJCM

[ourmanflint]

5 hours ago, unheard said:

I can not find a single instance of that name anywhere on the internet.

Can you please point in the right direction?

Thanks.

It's called Korean boxwood I think (Buxus sinica insularis)

Edited April 2, 2022 by ourmanflint

[unheard]

19 hours ago, Encid said:

I have also revised the roof outline

The roof overhangs can not be just enlarged at will without being given any consideration to the extensions' structural support which can lead to wind damage.

Do you plan on adding the necessary (judging by your roof dimensions) supporting columns?

The extra supporting columns are not a trivial add-on, money-wise.

Edited April 3, 2022 by unheard

[Encid]

18 minutes ago, unheard said:

The roof overhangs can not be just enlarged at will without being given any consideration to the extensions' structural support which can lead to wind damage.

Do you plan on adding the necessary (judging by your roof dimensions) supporting columns?

The extra supporting columns are not a trivial add-on, money-wise.

A 2m or 3m roof overhang is not excessive if you use correctly sized structural members.

See this for example:

 

[sometimewoodworker]

50 minutes ago, unheard said:

The roof overhangs can not be just enlarged at will without being given any consideration to the extensions' structural support which can lead to wind damage.

Do you plan on adding the necessary (judging by your roof dimensions) supporting columns?

The extra supporting columns are not a trivial add-on, money-wise.

From the house plans it look as if the roof overhangs are quite modest at a short one at the back 2 metres on 2 sides and 3 metres at the front. The 2 metre roofing certainly doesn’t need anything in the way of supports, the 3 metre might possibly need something though probably not as long as the structure is properly designed.

 

I am sure of my information since we have 2.5 metres on 3 sides, one of them has decorative supports that probably add little to the strength. 
 

this is a current security camera shot

Edited April 3, 2022 by sometimewoodworker

[Encid]

21 hours ago, Muhendis said:

I showed that Land Development Department video to my wife and she said that's the stuff which she named Ya Fak earlier. If you want some from the villagers that's what they call it in Thai.

I just found some more information on Vetiver Grass here.

 

 

In the article they call it "Ya-Phaeg".

Same same... but different.  

 

And from another website:

 

 

From the article:

"Its dense and fibrous root system can extend to 10 feet (3 m) deep in the first 2 years, making it a powerful tool to assist with slope stabilization, erosion control, soil and water conservation, rainfall runoff management and flood mitigation, and the general rehabilitation of degraded lands."

 

Very impressive and sounds exactly what I need.

[unheard]

1 hour ago, Encid said:

A 2m or 3m roof overhang is not excessive if you use correctly sized structural members.

See this for example:

 

The example shows the un-permitted car port - no one really cares about the structural integrity of those.

If you plan to build a permitted house then there's no way a structural engineer will undersign such a design for a dwelling.

[unheard]

1 hour ago, sometimewoodworker said:

From the house plans it look as if the roof overhangs are quite modest at a short one at the back 2 metres on 2 sides and 3 metres at the front.

2 meters are fine (maybe), yet 3 meters - is really pushing it.

I think the OP has 3 meters or more on his mind.

Was your house design permitted?

Edited April 3, 2022 by unheard

[sometimewoodworker]

26 minutes ago, unheard said:

2 meters are fine (maybe), yet 3 meters - is really pushing it.

I think the OP has 3 meters or more on his mind.

Was your house design permitted?

Had a permit been required it would have been with no problems. Our architect and structural engineer had absolutely no suggestion that it wasn’t either permitted or sound.

 

longer than 2.5 ~ 3 metres may have required a different roof structure.

[MJCM]

As we went to our old house today some pictures I promised to post

 

1st- Tie Wrap Internet cable fixed to the electric cable

 

 

 

2- That Insulation foil sprayed on with glue, how it looks

 

 

And it really looks bad!!!!!!!

[Muhendis]

35 minutes ago, MJCM said:

As we went to our old house today some pictures I promised to post

 

1st- Tie Wrap Internet cable fixed to the electric cable

 

 

 

2- That Insulation foil sprayed on with glue, how it looks

 

 

And it really looks bad!!!!!!!

Seemed a good idea at the time I guess.

[Rampant Rabbit]

On 3/31/2022 at 3:28 PM, Encid said:

Our builder has assured

yeah, they all  do that, assure  all day  long, right  up  until paid