Assault on Kiev: Russian helicopters swoop above Ukraine's capital

[rudi49jr]

 

[Hellfire]

This shameless liar ended his speech by accusing the West of nuclear blackmail and immediately warned that he was not bluffing when he threatened to use nuclear weapons. This entire speech consists of similar diabolical lies: accusing opponents of his (Putin's) own intentions and crimes.

 

 

Edited September 21, 2022 by Hellfire

[rudi49jr]

Many Russians scrambling to get out of the country, rush on tickets out of Russia after Putin’s speech. Can’t say that I blame them for trying to escape Russia and not become cannon fodder for the Russian army in Ukraine.

 

 

Edited September 21, 2022 by rudi49jr

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[sammieuk1]

The leaders of Azov among a 200 prisoner swap stunning news on a dire day well done ???? 

[Bkk Brian]

51 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

The leaders of Azov among a 200 prisoner swap stunning news on a dire day well done ???? 

Also includes 10 foreign fighters, UK, the US, Croatia, and Sweden confirmed

[LosLobo]

3 hours ago, Black Ops said:

 

I suggest a good assessment of the nuclear threat.

 

Putin and his pundits have been postulating the nuclear card for months now.

 

It seems like every time Putin gets disappointed with the progress of his "special operation" he cries wolf.

 

If Putin is going to use nuclear weapons and possibly initiate MAD protocol, nothing the West does will stop him. His ploy that Russia and its territories are threatened is BS and sheer bluff, as is his claim that by holding sham referendums in annexed areas of Ukraine they will become part of Russia.

 

Nothing happening here and the West should continue and possibly escalate its efforts.

 

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, LosLobo said:

I suggest a good assessment of the nuclear threat.

 

Putin and his pundits have been postulating the nuclear card for months now.

 

It seems like every time Putin gets disappointed with the progress of his "special operation" he cries wolf.

 

If Putin is going to use nuclear weapons and possibly initiate MAD protocol, nothing the West does will stop him. His ploy that Russia and its territories are threatened is BS and sheer bluff, as is his claim that by holding sham referendums in annexed areas of Ukraine they will become part of Russia.

 

Nothing happening here and the West should continue and possibly escalate its efforts.

 

A lot of people will die if you guess wrong. Are you willing to risk their lives?

[LosLobo]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

A lot of people will die if you guess wrong. Are you willing to risk their lives?

You obviously don't have an appreciation of how to treat "school yard" bullies. If you cannot find resources on-line, I can supply a suitable link.

 

Nevertheless, Putin has said that he would only use the nuclear option if Russia's sovereignty is threatened. And that scenario has never been contemplated.

 

So, you have the man's word on the subject. 

 

 

Edited September 22, 2022 by LosLobo

[Bkk Brian]

15 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

Many Russians scrambling to get out of the country, rush on tickets out of Russia after Putin’s speech. Can’t say that I blame them for trying to escape Russia and not become cannon fodder for the Russian army in Ukraine.

 

 

Indeed, there's a rush to get out of being called up.

 

Russians scrambling to book flights out of country after Putin troop announcement

Flights leaving Russia are selling out or skyrocketing in price on Wednesday after Russian President Vladimir Putin announced a partial mobilization of reservists amid the nation’s struggles in its war with Ukraine.

The apparent exodus of thousands of Russians comes after the Kremlin earlier on Wednesday said up to 300,000 individuals could be called to join the country’s military as it faces major setbacks in Ukraine.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/3653655-russians-scrambling-to-book-flights-out-of-country-after-putin-troop-announcement/

 

One aspect being missed is that the decree Putin signed did not include the words partial mobilization so this first announcement of 300,000 is just that. If needed he will then go onto call up more and the Russians know this.

 

Not that this is going to change much, they still lack the necessary equipment, training and command structure, more cannon fodder and more deaths created by Putin is all thats going to happen.

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, LosLobo said:

You obviously don't have an appreciation of how to treat "school yard" bullies.

and if they have guns or baseball bats and are prepared to use them?

 

See what i did there? I escalated the situation, like you wanted to do.

 

Edited September 22, 2022 by thaibeachlovers

[RJRS1301]

2 hours ago, LosLobo said:

You obviously don't have an appreciation of how to treat "school yard" bullies. If you cannot find resources on-line, I can supply a suitable link.

 

Nevertheless, Putin has said that he would only use the nuclear option if Russia's sovereignty is threatened. And that scenario has never been contemplated.

 

So, you have the man's word on the subject. 

 

 

That would be the man who has commanded troops who have been accused of rape torture and forced deportations. Truly a person withal compass, the one who said this is not war, but a special operation 

The same one who is probably responsible for the deaths of several persons who questioned or opposed him?

 

[rudi49jr]

 

[rudi49jr]

 

[BarraMarra]

Those cheating Russians are bussing Ukrainians from the disputed areas on Donetsk and Luhansk and bussing Russians from Russia to those areas making sure they get the votes he wants. Anthony Blinken confirmed this today when he spoke to the UN security council Bog brush Aka Lavrov just lied when he spoke and blamed the west for everything including planting the bodies in Bucha then he walked out of the hall 

[LosLobo]

 

Another one bites the dust.......

 

"A Kremlin ally died falling down the stairs, report says — the latest in a series of unexplained deaths among prominent Russians"

 

A Kremlin ally died falling down the stairs, report says — the latest in a series of unexplained deaths among prominent Russians (msn.com)

Edited September 22, 2022 by LosLobo

[heybruce]

3 hours ago, LosLobo said:

 

Another one bites the dust.......

 

"A Kremlin ally died falling down the stairs, report says — the latest in a series of unexplained deaths among prominent Russians"

 

A Kremlin ally died falling down the stairs, report says — the latest in a series of unexplained deaths among prominent Russians (msn.com)

Ok, this is definitely looking like a purge.  Two obvious questions:

 

Who is purging whom?

 

Why?

[Bkk Brian]

3 hours ago, LosLobo said:

 

Another one bites the dust.......

 

"A Kremlin ally died falling down the stairs, report says — the latest in a series of unexplained deaths among prominent Russians"

 

A Kremlin ally died falling down the stairs, report says — the latest in a series of unexplained deaths among prominent Russians (msn.com)

ooops

source

[Mavideol]

it always amazes me how politicians can lie using a straight face.... last night was watching UN security meeting and Lavrov speech let me "speechless" with so many lies and misleading information, however he did make a point to justify the war/invasion of Ukraine by Russia and it had nothing to do with Ukraine joining the EU and NATO, the real reason for the war it's because Ukraine didn't want the schools to teach Russian language and/or use Russian books, he claimed the Ukraine was being racist by not allowing Ukrainian kids to learn Ruskoff and all because the government in Kyiv became an totalitarian authoritarian Nazi type and that was a risk for Russia..... I almost pee on my pants, laughing, listening to his stupid comments

[Bkk Brian]

Russian soldiers have raped and tortured children in Ukraine, a UN panel said. Victims of sexual violence by Russian troops ranged in age from 4 to 82. “There are examples of cases where relatives were forced to witness the crimes." “We were struck by the large number of executions in the areas we visited”

 

New UN hard hitting report:

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20220923124045/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/23/world/europe/russia-ukraine-war-crimes-united-nations.html

 

https://www.ohchr.org/en/statements/2022/09/update-chair-independent-international-commission-inquiry-ukraine-51st-session

[tgw]

12 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

ooops

source

ironic.

a defenestration is exactly what Putin needs.

[rudi49jr]

2 hours ago, tgw said:

ironic.

a defenestration is exactly what Putin needs.

From at least the 15th floor, just to make sure…..

[Bkk Brian]

Since when was full mobilization, partial?

 

First 300,000, that went up to 1 million as reported by Russian media, now 1.2 million being called up.

 

Russia to conscript 1.2 million people

Russian authorities plan to conscript 1.2 million people for their “partial mobilization,” Meduza has learned from a source close to one of the country’s federal ministries.

Additionally, a source close to Moscow’s leadership told Meduza that up to 16,000 people from the capital are slated to be drafted.

https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/09/23/russia-to-conscript-up-to-1-2-million-people

[rudi49jr]

6 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Since when was full mobilization, partial?

 

First 300,000, that went up to 1 million as reported by Russian media, now 1.2 million being called up.

 

Russia to conscript 1.2 million people

Russian authorities plan to conscript 1.2 million people for their “partial mobilization,” Meduza has learned from a source close to one of the country’s federal ministries.

Additionally, a source close to Moscow’s leadership told Meduza that up to 16,000 people from the capital are slated to be drafted.

https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/09/23/russia-to-conscript-up-to-1-2-million-people

Apparently Putin is going to try to do what Stalin did in WWII: throw massive numbers of soldiers into the battle and win just by sheer numbers. But the sentiment back then was completely different, as it was clear to all Russians that the very existence of Russia was at stake if they didn’t manage to defeat the Germans, so the willingness to fight and possibly die for the motherland was very high.

This time around, it is all about the megalomania of Putin and his clique of fascists, and it’s quite obvious that the willingness to fight is not exactly there, as we witness many Russians fleeing their country so as not to become cannon fodder. 

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https://twitter.com/JakeCordell/status/1573647765082628096?t=-zv9PNabVWeuvc26at4wvg&s=19

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[Bkk Brian]

Meanwhile from the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine:

 

"Today is a good day for #UAarmy and a bad day for russian aviation. Su-25, two Su-30, Su-34 have gone to <deleted> themselves."

 

Plenty of vids on twitter showing the planes hit.

[rudi49jr]

Go Ukraine, kick the Orcs out of your country, and make it hurt!

 

 

[Mavideol]

4 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Meanwhile from the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine:

 

"Today is a good day for #UAarmy and a bad day for russian aviation. Su-25, two Su-30, Su-34 have gone to <deleted> themselves."

 

Plenty of vids on twitter showing the planes hit.

while Vlad is having a good time 555

Putin 'flees to secret palace' amid shocking new mobilisation claim

https://au.yahoo.com/news/putin-flees-to-secret-palace-shocking-new-mobilisation-claim-014846799.html