Assault on Kiev: Russian helicopters swoop above Ukraine's capital

[scottiejohn]

14 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

some of them are having a bad very wet Xmas, well done Ukraine

 

Ukraine says it has blown up major Russian navy vessel in Crimea’s Feodosia port

 

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-says-blown-major-russian-044532163.html

WsAppFoundation.dllUnavailable

It has been reported that they hit her badly in March 2022 as well!

Russian landing ship Novocherkassk - Wikipedia

[CatCage]

On 12/26/2023 at 3:00 PM, scottiejohn said:

It has been reported that they hit her badly in March 2022 as well!

Russian landing ship Novocherkassk - Wikipedia

Those Storm Shadow missiles really do make a mess of anything they hit, before and after 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

12 hours ago, CatCage said:

Those Storm Shadow missiles really do make a mess of anything they hit, before and after 

 

IMO naval ships are history in a war against a nation armed with missiles. Just large floating targets now.

Even back in the Falkland War the Exocet was feared by the Brits.

[Mavideol]

the smart ones, including some officers, don't want to be meat canon feader, better surrender 555

 

Russian mass surrender in Zaporizhzhya sector after inhumane treatment and heavy losses

A Russian officer surrendered and sold out his comrades, helping Ukraine's special forces cross a key river

 

[Mavideol]

Russian losses are high (not high enough 555) numbers, good job Ukraine

 

Over a thousand Russians killed, 22 tanks, 1 ship destroyed over past 24 hours

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/over-thousand-russians-killed-22-113300580.html

[Mavideol]

20 hours ago, CatCage said:

Those Storm Shadow missiles really do make a mess of anything they hit, before and after 

 

the other ones don't wnat the same fate... they run away  555

Two Russian warships flee occupied Feodosia after Ukrainian attack destroys landing ship Novocherkassk

https://www.yahoo.com/news/two-russian-warships-flee-occupied-203500842.html

 

 

 

 

[tgw]

24 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

the smart ones, including some officers, don't want to be meat canon feader, better surrender 555

 

Russian mass surrender in Zaporizhzhya sector after inhumane treatment and heavy losses

A Russian officer surrendered and sold out his comrades, helping Ukraine's special forces cross a key river

 

link ?

[freeworld]

10 minutes ago, tgw said:

link ?

Easy, just read yahoo news and "The New Voice of Ukraine"

Edited December 28, 2023 by freeworld

[Mavideol]

12 minutes ago, tgw said:

link ?

sorry man the links were there and somehow not saved....

 

 

https://au.yahoo.com/news/russian-mass-surrender-zaporizhzhya-sector-162900025.html

 

[Rimmer]

13 minutes ago, tgw said:

link ?

 

I also looked for a link but Yahoo News is down

[Mavideol]

3 minutes ago, Rimmer said:

 

I also looked for a link but Yahoo News is down

one link above... the other was from yahoo US will try again but alternative here The New Voice of Ukraine

Edited December 28, 2023 by Mavideol

[rudi49jr]

Russia can keep claiming the Novocherkassk was just a little damaged until they’re blue in the face, but these pictures are quite clear:

 

[Mavideol]

Russian mass surrender in Zaporizhzhya sector after inhumane treatment and heavy losses

https://au.yahoo.com/news/russian-mass-surrender-zaporizhzhya-sector-162900025.html

[Mavideol]

interesting reading and the colossal blunders of Putin's

 

Ukraine war has exposed the folly – and unintended consequences – of 'armed missionaries'

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-war-exposed-folly-unintended-134833375.html

 

[Mavideol]

14 hours ago, rudi49jr said:

Russia can keep claiming the Novocherkassk was just a little damaged until they’re blue in the face, but these pictures are quite clear:

 

some insight as to how it was carried out

Ukraine’s Air Force discloses details of attack on Russian ship Novocherkassk

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-air-force-discloses-details-135500928.html

 

 

 

[ChaiyaTH]

Ukraine losing hardcore meanwhile this thread keeps being fed with propaganda suggesting the opposite lol.

Edited December 29, 2023 by ChaiyaTH

[jvs]

4 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Ukraine losing hardcore meanwhile this thread keeps being fed with propaganda suggesting the opposite lol.

That would all depend on what news source you believe?

Do you believe the russians?

Ukraine claims to have sunk another ship and show pictures to prove it.

According to the russians a bit of paint will be all that is needed to repair it?

Soon the bridge will be taken out and then what?

F-16 are also going to play a big part.

I remember during the cold war one guy in our village put a big sign out in his yard.

"i rather have a nuclear missile in my back yard then a russian soldier in my kitchen!"

Chaiya did you send a happy new year to Thaibeach guy?

 

[Mavideol]

12 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Ukraine losing hardcore meanwhile this thread keeps being fed with propaganda suggesting the opposite lol.

do you have RT subscription

[rudi49jr]

6 hours ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Ukraine losing hardcore meanwhile this thread keeps being fed with propaganda suggesting the opposite lol.

The Russian army (also known as War Criminals R Us) fired 160 missiles and drones at Ukraine last night, most of them willy nilly, aimed at civilian targets on purpose. Ukraine managed to shoot down 100 missiles, but 60 got through, causing at least 10 innocent people’s deaths. But you’re okay with that, right? Nothing but savages and nazi’s in Ukraine, so no skin off your nose, right?
Can’t wait for the F16’s to arrive, so Ukraine can really start bringing the fight to Russia’s doorstep. 

Meanwhile there was a super decadent party in Moscow a few nights ago, looked like Caligula and the last days of Rome. And this for a country that claims to be a beacon of morals and integrity. Just face it: the Russian elite are an incredibly decadent, depraved and hypocritical lot who are more than happy to let the common folk fight and get killed in Ukraine in huge numbers, so that they can party and count their money. 

[Morch]

1 hour ago, rudi49jr said:

The Russian army (also known as War Criminals R Us) fired 160 missiles and drones at Ukraine last night, most of them willy nilly, aimed at civilian targets on purpose. Ukraine managed to shoot down 100 missiles, but 60 got through, causing at least 10 innocent people’s deaths. But you’re okay with that, right? Nothing but savages and nazi’s in Ukraine, so no skin off your nose, right?
Can’t wait for the F16’s to arrive, so Ukraine can really start bringing the fight to Russia’s doorstep. 

Meanwhile there was a super decadent party in Moscow a few nights ago, looked like Caligula and the last days of Rome. And this for a country that claims to be a beacon of morals and integrity. Just face it: the Russian elite are an incredibly decadent, depraved and hypocritical lot who are more than happy to let the common folk fight and get killed in Ukraine in huge numbers, so that they can party and count their money. 

 

That's actually a very poor showing for Russia.

I wonder if it's the operators that suck, or the gear, or whether Ukraine was defensively geared for that.

Edited December 29, 2023 by Morch

[tgw]

I would like to know more about effective Lancet counters.

Which weapon systems can effectively counter Lancets ? Is the deployment of vehicles equipped with CRAM systems planned to protect high value targets such as HIMARS, NASAMS, PATRIOTS, IRIS, PzH2000, CAESAR and ARCHER ?

Are CRAM effective against Lancets ?

When will GLSDB finally be delivered ?

Why doesn't Ukraine use JDAM ?

Why are Russians allowed to fly planes and helis closer than 100Km from Ukraine-controlled territory ?

Doesn't Ukraine have AMRAAM (AIM-120) ?

Is the production of 152mm shells finally ramping up ?

What about 155mm ?

Shaheed crapdrones apparently still come through the air defence. when are more Gepards coming ?

[thaibeachlovers]

17 hours ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Ukraine losing hardcore meanwhile this thread keeps being fed with propaganda suggesting the opposite lol.

They will probably keep telling us the Ukrainians are winning till the very end. Some were so convinced the orcs were going to get beaten at the very start that it'll be a bit embarrassing if Ukraine has to negotiate for peace.

[Wobblybob]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

They will probably keep telling us the Ukrainians are winning till the very end. Some were so convinced the orcs were going to get beaten at the very start that it'll be a bit embarrassing if Ukraine has to negotiate for peace.

Some were saying it would be a 3 day victory for the 2nd mightiest military on Earth, oh how disappointed those people must be now. 

[Bkk Brian]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

They will probably keep telling us the Ukrainians are winning till the very end. Some were so convinced the orcs were going to get beaten at the very start that it'll be a bit embarrassing if Ukraine has to negotiate for peace.

 

Sounds like a feeble attempt at gloating. Perhaps you should remind yourself of the 4th post in this topic from the one and only you on the 25th Feb 2022 and 334 pages later your contributions remain just as rubbish.

 

"I'll switch on Al Jazeera for an update. I doubt this thread will survive long"

[rudi49jr]

7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

They will probably keep telling us the Ukrainians are winning till the very end. Some were so convinced the orcs were going to get beaten at the very start that it'll be a bit embarrassing if Ukraine has to negotiate for peace.

Are you Waldorf or Statler?

 

Edited December 30, 2023 by rudi49jr

[GroveHillWanderer]

10 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

They will probably keep telling us the Ukrainians are winning till the very end. Some were so convinced the orcs were going to get beaten at the very start that it'll be a bit embarrassing if Ukraine has to negotiate for peace.

Who were all these people who thought that "the orcs were going to get beaten at the very start"?

 

As far as I can recall, the general consensus was that the the Ukrainians would not be able to hold out against might and numerical superiority of the Russian military machine for very long at all.

[Mavideol]

a little delayed revenge, better later then never

 

Ukraine launches attacks on Russian border regions after Putin’s ‘barbaric’ aerial bombardment

https://au.yahoo.com/news/russian-air-defence-intercepts-13-052617543.html

 

UK to send missiles to help Ukraine after Russia's 'biggest aerial barrage' of war kills at least 22 civilians

 

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukrainian-cities-hit-huge-wave-093852783.html

 

Edited December 30, 2023 by Mavideol

[thaibeachlovers]

10 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Who were all these people who thought that "the orcs were going to get beaten at the very start"?

 

As far as I can recall, the general consensus was that the the Ukrainians would not be able to hold out against might and numerical superiority of the Russian military machine for very long at all.

I'm not going to look through hundreds of pages looking for specific posters, but the US and EU obviously thought Russia could be defeated or they wouldn't have sent billions of $ and military equipment to Ukraine.

[rudi49jr]

32 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I'm not going to look through hundreds of pages looking for specific posters, but the US and EU obviously thought Russia could be defeated or they wouldn't have sent billions of $ and military equipment to Ukraine.

If they hadn’t, Ukraine would be a Russian puppet state by now, and Putin would be plotting his next move. He wants to restore the old USSR, remember? Is that something you would feel comfortable with? I’m pretty sure most people in eastern Europe would not like that at all, since many of them remember what it was like to live behind the iron curtain. 

[GroveHillWanderer]

12 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I'm not going to look through hundreds of pages looking for specific posters, but the US and EU obviously thought Russia could be defeated or they wouldn't have sent billions of $ and military equipment to Ukraine.

I don't see how that's obvious at all. The US and EU thought (and said) that it was vitally important to help Ukraine to resist as best as possible, this illegal invasion and blatant violation of international law. 

 

That doesn't mean they thought Russia could ultimately be defeated. Many of the analyses that I heard and read seemed to hold that halting the Russian advance was probably the best that could be hoped for, followed by some kind of peace negotiations.

 

Quite a few people still hold that view, I reckon.

Edited December 31, 2023 by GroveHillWanderer