Assault on Kiev: Russian helicopters swoop above Ukraine's capital

[johng]

10 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

finally see some light at the end of the tunnel

That light is the Russian ICMB train steaming straight towards you !

[GroveHillWanderer]

8 minutes ago, johng said:

That light is the Russian ICMB train steaming straight towards you !

ICMB?

[Mavideol]

10 minutes ago, johng said:

That light is the Russian ICMB train steaming straight towards you !

trolling ????

[johng]

6 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

ICMB?

ICBM intercontinental ballistic missile....I swapped  M and B and thus am a troll ?

[GroveHillWanderer]

4 minutes ago, johng said:

ICBM intercontinental ballistic missile....I swapped  M and B and thus am a troll ?

I didn't say anything about trolling.

 

However I should point out that the use of intercontinental ballistic missiles is to target places located a long, long way away - usually on a different continent (the clue is in the name).

 

If Russia were going to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine, they would be tactical battlefield nukes, not ICBM's.

[johng]

8 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

If Russia were going to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine, they would be tactical battlefield nukes, not ICBM's.

If NATO/Euro/US  keeps up the provocation they may use them and thus WWIII ?

[Wobblybob]

1 minute ago, johng said:

If NATO/Euro/US  keeps up the provocation they may use them and thus WWIII ?

Russia invaded Ukraine, they are the aggressors, they are the ones provoking this war, why do you feel it necessary to defend a autocratic terrorist country like Russia?

[scottiejohn]

3 minutes ago, johng said:

If NATO/Euro/US  keeps up the provocation they may use them and thus WWIII ?

I think if you look with open eyes and mind that the provocation was when Russia (Putin) invaded Ukraine!

[scottiejohn]

19 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

If Russia were going to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine, they would be tactical battlefield nukes, not ICBM's.

Does that make them any safer or less likely to be retaliated against with opposing nuclear weapons?

Edited April 24 by scottiejohn

[GroveHillWanderer]

Just now, scottiejohn said:

Does that make them any safer?

Depends what you mean by "safer," In terms of their actual destructive power, and the amount of nuclear fallout, they would cause less death and damage than an ICBM strike would.

 

They should still never be used, of course.

[johng]

15 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

why do you feel it necessary to defend a autocratic terrorist country like Russia?

Because they where provoked...by the equally autocratic "terrorist" US/Euro/NATO

[jvs]

2 minutes ago, johng said:

Because they where provoked...by the equally autocratic "terrorist" US/Euro/NATO

How?

 

[Wobblybob]

2 minutes ago, johng said:

Because they where provoked...by the equally autocratic "terrorist" US/Euro/NATO

No they wasn't provoked, explain your assertions!

[johng]

18 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

I think if you look with open eyes and mind that the provocation was when Russia (Putin) invaded Ukraine!

Nope the provocation started shortly after the fall of the Berlin wall/Soviet union collapse with NATO expansion culminating in the war in Ukraine...which BTW Russia has won.

[Wobblybob]

Just now, johng said:

Nope the provocation started shortly after the fall of the Berlin wall/Soviet union collapse with NATO expansion culminating in the war in Ukraine...which BTW Russia has won.

NATO equates to members joining for the fear of being attacked by Russia, which would explain why there are more members now than at first when Putins army invaded Ukraine, the concept is not difficult, why are you finding it so!

[johng]

9 minutes ago, jvs said:

How?

 

Continued east ward expansion of NATO, they have clearly said that NATO on the immediate Russian border is a red line...remember the Cuban missile crisis ?

[Wobblybob]

Just now, johng said:

Continued east ward expansion of NATO, they have clearly said that NATO on the immediate Russian border is a red line...remember the Cuban missile crisis ?

Russia has no say in who joins NATO, it has nothing to do with Russia who joins NATO, for without Russia there would be no NATO! 

[johng]

2 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

NATO equates to members joining for the fear of being attacked by Russia,

NATO was formed after an attack by Germany not Russia.

[johng]

4 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Russia has no say in who joins NATO, it has nothing to do with Russia who joins NATO, for without Russia there would be no NATO! 

Of course they have no say in who joins NATO as they are not members

they can express disapproval of continuing NATO expansion toward their border.

[jvs]

10 minutes ago, johng said:

NATO was formed after an attack by Germany not Russia.

NATO was formed in 1949 to form a pact against russia.

[jvs]

21 minutes ago, johng said:

Continued east ward expansion of NATO, they have clearly said that NATO on the immediate Russian border is a red line...remember the Cuban missile crisis ?

Does that make any sense?By trying to invade the Ukraine the russians are moving closer to NATO themselves!

russia also helped to convince Sweden and Finland to join NATO.

but of course we were given excuses and no reasons.

[Wobblybob]

16 minutes ago, johng said:

NATO was formed after an attack by Germany not Russia.

NATO was formed to prevent the Russians from attacking peaceful countries, something that Russia could not pride itself with! 

[Wobblybob]

12 minutes ago, johng said:

Of course they have no say in who joins NATO as they are not members

they can express disapproval of continuing NATO expansion toward their border.

They can disapprove as much as they like, it makes no difference. Finland and Sweden had no intention of joining NATO until Russia illegally invaded Ukraine.

[scottiejohn]

35 minutes ago, johng said:

Nope the provocation started shortly after the fall of the Berlin wall/Soviet union collapse with NATO expansion culminating in the war in Ukraine...which BTW Russia has won.

I think you should beam yourself back up to whatever planet you came from as the history of this earth is obviously alien to you!

[scottiejohn]

1 hour ago, jvs said:

How?

 

When, where and by whom?

[kwonitoy]

Hit the refineries, next hit the storage depots

[Mavideol]

not too much of a secret since they know about it, well done Ukraine

Ukraine attacked Russia with long-range ballistic missiles secretly supplied by US

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-attacked-russia-long-range-190325214.html

[Mavideol]

Ukraine-Russia war live: Kyiv to ‘step up long-range missile strikes’ on Putin’s forces after secret US delivery

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-russia-war-live-former-074406170.html

[jvs]

4 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

Ukraine-Russia war live: Kyiv to ‘step up long-range missile strikes’ on Putin’s forces after secret US delivery

https://au.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-russia-war-live-former-074406170.html

Range long enough to take out the bridge!

[Mavideol]

is anybody surprised with Russia veto, I am not

Russia vetoes UN vote on stopping arms race in outer space

 

https://au.yahoo.com/news/russia-vetoes-un-vote-stopping-045033496.html