Family of South African jailed in Thailand remain hopeful

[Jonathan Swift]

16 hours ago, chang1 said:

There must be a bit more to this than just a signature. 

She must have known what her boyfriend was upto and what work was she doing? 

Seems odd that the appeal court will not allow any new evidence to be considered. So even if there is video evidence of her boyfriend forging her signature when accepting the package, that proves her innocence beyond doubt, only the original evidence will be looked at.

You've not heard the thousands of stories of partners leading secret lives on the side, be it drugs or just cheating? I am not a lawbreaker, nor a cheater, but there are certain elements of my personal finances that I would not discuss with a girlfriend, or a wife. Lots of good reasons for that. I just think it's probably a sad case of misplaced trust or stupidity with tragic results, but that's only my guess, since no one actually knows except her and her ex. 

[Jonathan Swift]

16 hours ago, Dan747 said:

Her Boy Friend is dealing in Drugs and she did not know??

Happens all the time

[pedro01]

3 hours ago, steven100 said:

it has everything to do with knowing right from wrong ....  please explain what part of wrong don't you understand

 

 

 

Right and wrong are subjective.

The law simply lays out rules along the lines of one version of right and wrong.

 

The law should not be confused with right and wrong.

[Liverpool Lou]

8 hours ago, Sparktrader said:

Drugs should be legal. 

If you say so.   

 

What's your favourite?

[BKKTRAVELER]

Many suspicions, but how did the boyfriend get a free pass? Let's start with that.

[Ralf001]

2 hours ago, BKKTRAVELER said:

Many suspicions, but how did the boyfriend get a free pass? Let's start with that.

When this one first did the rounds (in a news article I cannot find at the moment) she admitted to trafficking and took police to her house and showed them 4 more packages.

 

 

[Dogmatix]

Hard to say how much, if anything, she knew about the bf’s drug smuggling enterprise from the information available. Maybe she knew something because it had been going on for a while but maybe not. Thai courts anyway still happy to convict on confessions suspects can’t read extracted under torture or duress after the 2B case.

 

The bf knew the scheme was blown after the package was found at the school and the other teacher implicated, although his case was whitewashed to save school reputation which is now in tatters anyway. The police must have known Ashley was the gf of Nettles and that the biscuit shop was his. He continued with the scheme trying to scrape the last bucks out of it, putting her at risk, knowing the cops were in to them.

[Dogmatix]

2 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

When this one first did the rounds (in a news article I cannot find at the moment) she admitted to trafficking and took police to her house and showed them 4 more packages.

 

 

That might explain why she first got a death sentence. It does seem to me something is missing from the story.

[Ralf001]

43 minutes ago, Dogmatix said:

That might explain why she first got a death sentence. It does seem to me something is missing from the story.

I think it was an auto death sentence for trafficking but the admission of guilt got it commuted to life.

[arithai12]

Difficult to believe that she was sentenced to death (then commuted) just for a signature on a package.

[Ralf001]

4 minutes ago, arithai12 said:

Difficult to believe that she was sentenced to death (then commuted) just for a signature on a package.

Has it been made public who's name was on the delivery ?

 

 

[SAFETY FIRST]

On 2/26/2022 at 7:38 AM, Leadidge said:

On 2/26/2022 at 5:16 AM, SAFETY FIRST said:

She looks a good sort, too bad she's an idiot. 

What makes her an idiot? Signing for a delivery is a completely normal thing to do.

Did you not read the article 

 

She was locked up in Thailand for selling drugs 

 

She's an Idiot.

My comment is that there are better ways to make a dollar. 

 

Plenty of guys here cashed up and looking for a bit of harmless fun. 

 

Selling drugs destroys lives. 

 

[Bogbrush]

8 hours ago, pedro01 said:

 

 

The law should not be confused with right and wrong.

The law also shouldn’t be confused with justice.

[Bogbrush]

1 hour ago, Ralf001 said:

Has it been made public who's name was on the delivery ?

 

 

As per freeashley.org - there is a screenshot showing the parcel and the addressee was Dave Rensburg.

[SAFETY FIRST]

22 hours ago, PremiumLane said:

On 2/26/2022 at 5:16 AM, SAFETY FIRST said:

She looks a good sort, too bad she's an idiot. 

 

She should've dumped the bf and advertised herself on Thaifriendly, Tinder etc.

Lots of money to be made, going by the conversations I've had with the young ladies I've supported over the many years. 

 

I'm seeing more and more female foreigners on these sites making a living. 

Serious question, were you high when you wrote that? I mean, what the hell are you blathering about?

Sorry to read that English is not your first language. 

 

Try Google translate, I've heard it works well for you non English speakers. 

[Ralf001]

44 minutes ago, Bogbrush said:

As per freeashley.org - there is a screenshot showing the parcel and the addressee was Dave Rensburg.

Did they ever identify who he was ?

 

she opened the cookie shop so he certainly was not the previous owner.

[Pattaya Spotter]

On 2/26/2022 at 3:24 AM, webfact said:

CAPE TOWN - The mother of Ashley Oosthuizen, who is facing life imprisonment in Thailand for alleged international drug trafficking, says the family is overwhelmed by the support they have been receiving from the public.

 

Since news of Ashley’s imprisonment broke, her mother, Lynn Blignaut, said messages of support and encouragement had been flowing in.

 

“Everybody has been amazing with their support and their messages of encouragement. I stand in awe to see all the positive reactions, it shows that so many people actually really do care,” she said.

The drug users care...and are sending messages of support. 

[BKKTRAVELER]

8 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

When this one first did the rounds (in a news article I cannot find at the moment) she admitted to trafficking and took police to her house and showed them 4 more packages.

 

 

Oh.. That explains more indeed.

[PremiumLane]

5 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Sorry to read that English is not your first language. 

 

Try Google translate, I've heard it works well for you non English speakers. 

Nah, your post was just boomer nonsense 

[Dogmatix]

Stickboy, if he still exists, took down the article posted when she was first arrested which alleged police found 4 other boxes similar to the offending package at her residence. Obviously police got her to sign a confession that she knowingly participated in the drug smuggling and dealing. We have no means of knowing where the truth lies. Could’ve been involved or may be a completely innocent victim of somewhere in between. She doesn’t seem to have profited financially at all from the drug dealing but unfortunately for her became besotted with a total dirt bag who, some say was known, at least to others, as the party drug dealer in Samui. Did he twist her arm to help him out, knowing she was too starry eyed to refuse. Who knows?

 

Drug dealing in Samui and the islands is the turf of local police and their proxy gangs, as is the smuggling of liquor and other criminal activities. Dirt Bag Nettles claims in his twisted narcissistic narrative that he undercut prices and sold much purer dope. This would have brought his network to the attention of the cops. They eventually seem to have caught up with his accomplice at the school after the package was found in the school mail room and the police were called. He may have blown the whole thing in exchange for being let off the hook by arrangement of the school owner trying to keep the school out of the limelight. 
 

So the police were probably watching Ashley at the Hot Biscuit and watching packages that came through the mail addressed to the biscuit. This one probably didn’t need a signature, as why would you pay extra for Royal Mail signature required when you use a false addressee to send illicit substances. But the cops staged the delivery and told the possibly fake postman to be sure to get her signature as evidence.  
 

So police were amenable to keeping the school out of the story as long as they got a nice bust resulting in a death sentence for their records and put an end to the competition. The death sentence seems to have been because it was a class 1 drug and 250gm is apparently a large quantity of that stuff which I had never heard of before - enough for 4,000 doses. Plus there  was evidence presented by prosecutors, whether true or false, of prior shipments and willful involvement and of course the confession. The Samui court has a record of disregarding retractions of confessions made under duress by foreigners with no knowledge of Thai, as in the case of the 2B. Anyway it is not clear that she retracted the confession.

[Dogmatix]

Tanyawadeee school seems not to do due diligence on foreign teachers as they hired Nettles with a criminal record in the US. Demanding home country police clearance would have avoided that. The kindergarten was also happy to hire a 19 year old girl with no qualifications as a teacher. Parents take note. 

[pedro01]

16 hours ago, Jonathan Swift said:

You've not heard the thousands of stories of partners leading secret lives on the side, be it drugs or just cheating? I am not a lawbreaker, nor a cheater, but there are certain elements of my personal finances that I would not discuss with a girlfriend, or a wife. Lots of good reasons for that. I just think it's probably a sad case of misplaced trust or stupidity with tragic results, but that's only my guess, since no one actually knows except her and her ex. 

Get real.

 

He was a low level dealer, selling to expats. She was a party girl who liked to partake.

 

He was a big fish in a small pond. He only makes money if people know he's the man.

 

The idea that she didnt know is ridiculous. Chicks think guys like this are cool.

 

 

[pedro01]

19 hours ago, steven100 said:

you really can't be that naïve surely .....    Lol 

You are naive thinking a party girl could hook up with a low level dealer and not know.

[Liverpool Lou]

On 2/26/2022 at 11:31 AM, Bezdomny said:

Even if she is guilty nobody deserves life sentence for drugs.

We are all entitled to our opinions and your comment is just that.

 

By the way, she didn't get a life sentence just "for drugs", as lovely as you try to make the trade sound, she got it for trafficking.

Edited February 27, 2022 by Liverpool Lou

[Sparktrader]

15 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

If you say so.   

 

What's your favourite?

Coffee and beer

[Liverpool Lou]

On 2/26/2022 at 12:20 PM, Enoon said:

On 2/26/2022 at 11:41 AM, clivebaxter said:

So why get involved in drugs where the sentence is often life?

 

What she got "involved" with was signing for a parcel.

 

Which in most countries does not get you a prison sentence.

What she got involved  with, voluntarily, via her drug-dealer boyfriend was drug trafficking which in every country gets a prison sentence.

[Sparktrader]

21 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

We are all entitled to our opinions and your comment is just that.

 

By the way, she didn't get a life sentence just "for drugs", as lovely as you try to make the trade sound, she got it for trafficking.

Drug companies make billions doing that

[Dogmatix]

16 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

We are all entitled to our opinions and your comment is just that.

 

By the way, she didn't get a life sentence just "for drugs", as lovely as you try to make the trade sound, she got it for trafficking.

Yes. The sentence was for importing a sizeable quantity of a class 1 drug. Perhaps she got the death penalty at first because she withdrew her confession and plead not guilty. A guilty plea, confession and cooperation would normally only get the death penalty in an heinous crime where the suspect’s cooperation was of no use.  No information is provided about the trial, the charges or defense, if she pleaded not guilty. 

[Sparktrader]

9 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Did you not read the article 

 

She was locked up in Thailand for selling drugs 

 

She's an Idiot.

My comment is that there are better ways to make a dollar. 

 

Plenty of guys here cashed up and looking for a bit of harmless fun. 

 

Selling drugs destroys lives. 

 

Not many compared to alcohol

[Liverpool Lou]

On 2/26/2022 at 1:15 PM, PEE TEE said:

Did she know what was in the package ? a lie detector  test should prove her innocent or guilty . 

Those things that are not accepted in any court, anywhere, you mean?