Kim Davis violated same-sex couples' rights by refusing marriage licenses, judge says

[LarrySR]

https://www.npr.org/2022/03/19/1087723875/kim-davis-court-same-sex-marriage

 

County Clerk Kim Davis, married 4 times with 2 kids out of wedlock wouldn't issue a gay couple a marriage license because she "believes in the sanctity of holy matrimony."  

She said distributing marriage licenses to such couples went against her beliefs as a member of the Apostolic Church, arguing that she could not give them a marriage license "under God's authority."

 

The decision leaves open the question of whether the former clerk is responsible for the legal fees of the two couples who sued and other monetary damages that have accrued over the nearly seven years of legal back-and-forth. 

A jury will decide whether Davis is liable for those fees and other damages, which likely stands around hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Edited March 20, 2022 by LarrySR

[BritManToo]

6 minutes ago, LarrySR said:

A jury will decide whether Davis is liable for those fees and other damages, which likely stands around hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Nope, it's the county that's responsible for the damages .........

They employed her, they should have sacked her for refusing to do her job (gross misconduct) and employed someone who would marry the couples straight away.

[tonray]

26 minutes ago, LarrySR said:

arguing that she could not give them a marriage license "under God's authority."

God doesn't spponsor her 401-k does he ?

[OneMoreFarang]

She looks like such a nice person... ???? 

 

[Screaming]

Thank you Kim Davis for standing by your moral convictions. I wish there were more of you in the world.

[Sparktrader]

Looks like a man

[LarrySR]

24 minutes ago, Screaming said:

Thank you Kim Davis for standing by your moral convictions. I wish there were more of you in the world.

Stood by her “moral convictions”…..except for the part about being married 4 times with 2 kids out of wedlock. 

• She gave birth to twins five months after divorcing her first husband 
• Their father was identified as her third husband, according to court records

Let’s be honest.
She’s an immoral, unethical, disgraceful, white trash, redneck, homophobic, deplorable, bigot.
Ya know, your everyday, garden variety American conservative. 

 

 

 

Edited March 20, 2022 by LarrySR

[orchis]

she is an employee, she should not make an interpretation of the laws whatever the issue.

[Jingthing]

She wouldn't do her job.

She should have been fired immediately.

[Excel]

1 hour ago, Screaming said:

Thank you Kim Davis for standing by your moral convictions. I wish there were more of you in the world.

Yep and the whilst there aren't more like her in the rest world as they were too busy for the last 30 years inventing and pushing the "woke" world,  the Russians were busy developing their weapons systems that the West is now desperately afraid of as that is the real reason they dare not give air support to the Ukranians.  Seems a few people have priorities where it really matters and as to why a persons principles, in her case refusing to marry gay couples, is more important than peoples rights and lives elsewhere indicates that clearly the world has gone completely potty in my opinion.

Edited March 20, 2022 by Excel

[LarrySR]

2 minutes ago, Excel said:

Yep and the whilst there aren't more like her in the rest world as they were too busy for the last 30 years inventing and pushing the "woke" world,  the Russians were busy developing their weapons systems that the West is now desperately afraid of as that is the real reason they dare not give air support to the Ukranians.  Seems a few people have priorities where it really matters and as to why a persons principles, in her case refusing to marry gay couples, is more important than peoples rights and lives elsewhere indicates that clearly the world has gone completely potty in my opinion.

Now that’s just silly talk.
Russian military budget is $70 billion compared to the USA $770 billion. 

[mtls2005]

1 hour ago, Screaming said:

Thank you Kim Davis for standing by your moral convictions.

Yeah I'm guessing "standing by your moral convictions" wasn't in her job description.

 

Wonder what she put people through applying for fishing license?

 

Hard to believe she appealed this to the SCOTUS.

 

Believe Liberty Counsel, an Orlando-based anti-LGBT Christian group represented Davis.

 

Florida’s Liberty Counsel, an SPLC-designated hate group, received more than $420K in PPP loans 

 

https://www.orlandoweekly.com/orlando/floridas-liberty-counsel-an-splc-designated-hate-group-received-more-than-420k-in-ppp-loans/Content?oid=28464512

 

 

 

 

 

[LarrySR]

19 hours ago, Excel said:

Yep and the whilst there aren't more like her in the rest world as they were too busy for the last 30 years inventing and pushing the "woke" world,  

WOKE: awake, awareness of social injustice, alert to inequality especially racism, to be socially just, tolerant, believe every individual must be treated equitably and fairly by society.

 

UNWOKE: reprehensible, narrow minded, inconsiderate of new ideas or change, mired in a pathetic mix of grievances and projection, outraged and bewildered why they can't be openly racist, homophobic or misogynistic.

 

 

 

 

Edited March 21, 2022 by LarrySR

[impulse]

On 3/19/2022 at 9:19 PM, BritManToo said:

Nope, it's the county that's responsible for the damages .........

They employed her, they should have sacked her for refusing to do her job (gross misconduct) and employed someone who would marry the couples straight away.

The issue being, of course, that the money will come from thousands of taxpayers who did nothing wrong.  She should be held personally liable if she broke local, county, state or federal laws.  Not the taxpayers.

 

I understand qualified immunity if she made a judgment call in the absence of governing law.  But not if she violated the law.

 

Edited March 21, 2022 by impulse

[BritManToo]

7 hours ago, impulse said:

She should be held personally liable if she broke local, county, state or federal laws.  Not the taxpayers.

The county backed her decision.

One she probably wouldn't have made without their backing.

This sort of person never acts alone.

[mtls2005]

On 3/21/2022 at 7:50 AM, LarrySR said:

WOKE: awake, awareness of social injustice, alert to inequality especially racism, to be socially just, tolerant, believe every individual must be treated equitably and fairly by society.

Don't forget, "tends to congregate in Mobs", or so the UNWOKE like to complain.

 

Still seems odd for them to whine about progress and use a term like "woke" as derisive. As if being awake is a bad thing. Go figure.

 

 

[LarrySR]

A black football player takes a knee to protest police brutality and Republicans call him “unAmerican that disrespects the flag and military, should lose his job and be deported”

But a gang of white nationalists wearing tactical gear, carrying baseball bats and bear spray attack the police, storm the Capital and go looking to hang the Vice President are “patriots”.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

On 3/20/2022 at 11:07 AM, Screaming said:

Thank you Kim Davis for standing by your moral convictions. I wish there were more of you in the world.

You are mistaking moral Religiously driven hatred for moral convictions.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

On 3/20/2022 at 12:41 PM, Excel said:

Yep and the whilst there aren't more like her in the rest world as they were too busy for the last 30 years inventing and pushing the "woke" world,  the Russians were busy developing their weapons systems that the West is now desperately afraid of as that is the real reason they dare not give air support to the Ukranians.  Seems a few people have priorities where it really matters and as to why a persons principles, in her case refusing to marry gay couples, is more important than peoples rights and lives elsewhere indicates that clearly the world has gone completely potty in my opinion.

‘Gone completely potty’ you say.

[DaveE13]

On 3/20/2022 at 3:33 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

She looks like such a nice person... ???? 

 

Looks like typical Karen.  

[bendejo]

On 3/19/2022 at 10:47 PM, mtls2005 said:

Wonder what she put people through applying for fishing license?

 

Certain states are notorious for their DMV employees.  Just think of one depriving someone of a driver's license because "when I look in the rear-view mirror I don't want to see your ugly face."

For me the memorable thing about this incident was all of the GOP presidential hopefuls who went down there and were literally fighting (verbally) with each other to crowd her spotlight.  I recall Huckabee and Cruz, there may have been others.

"under God's authority"

That's the scary stuff, who knows what god is going to tell her next.

 

 

[Jingthing]

On 3/27/2022 at 11:49 AM, DaveE13 said:

Looks like typical Karen.  

She's a Karen's Karen. 

[LarrySR]

2 hours ago, bendejo said:

 

Certain states are notorious for their DMV employees.  Just think of one depriving someone of a driver's license because "when I look in the rear-view mirror I don't want to see your ugly face."

For me the memorable thing about this incident was all of the GOP presidential hopefuls who went down there and were literally fighting (verbally) with each other to crowd her spotlight.  I recall Huckabee and Cruz, there may have been others.

"under God's authority"

That's the scary stuff, who knows what god is going to tell her next.

 

 

Huckabee and Cruz would be Taliban if they had been born in Afghanistan.

[ozimoron]

Well, Justice Clarence Thomas is all sad because criminals will find it difficult to function in society.

 

Thomas claimed Davis “may have been one of the first victims of this Court’s cavalier treatment of religion in its Obergefell decision, but she will not be the last.”

“Due to Obergefell, those with sincerely held religious beliefs concerning marriage will find it increasingly difficult to participate in society without running afoul of Obergefelland its effect on other antidiscrimination laws,” Thomas wrote in 2020, five years after the decision, which did not produce the effect he claimed.

 

https://www.rawstory.com/kim-davis-ordered-to-pay-over-260000-after-denying-same-couple-marriage-license-2666854399/