Maybole Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I got passport photos taken at the booth across from immigration. They were good enough for Thai Immigration and I scanned them onto a memory stick. However, when I tried to submit one to UK Passport Office with the intention to renew a passport, it was rejected as "not sufficient quality". It was within the required parameters. I now need to find a photographic shop in the Chiangmai area which will produce acceptable quality photos that I can use. I prefer somewhere on the south side especially Hang Dong Sanpatong area. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Have you tried going into a camera shop or photo printing shops ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjintx Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 We used Big Camera for my wife's US passport photos. They were not aware of the minutia of US requirements so it was essential to bring those with us. You might do the same with regards to the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybole Posted April 14, 2022 Author Share Posted April 14, 2022 12 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Have you tried going into a camera shop or photo printing shops ? Not yet, That is why I am asking for recommended shops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, Maybole said: Not yet, That is why I am asking for recommended shops. If I give you the location of a shop, will you definitely be going there , or will you just think about going there ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 However, when I tried to submit one to UK Passport Office with the intention to renew a passport, it was rejected as "not sufficient quality". It was within the required parameters. They obviously weren't. HMPO in Liverpool do not reject photos for the fun of it. Any Kodak shop should have the following specifications. The criteria is quite extensive and be found here:- https://www.gov.uk/photos-for-passports/photo-requirements The size of your printed photos You need to provide 2 identical photos. They must: measure 45 millimetres (mm) high by 35mm wide (the standard size used in photo booths in the UK) not be a cut down version of a larger picture If you use a photo booth outside the UK, check it can give you photos that measure 45mm high by 35mm wide. The size of your image The image of you - from the crown of your head to your chin - must be between 29mm and 34mm high. The quality of your printed photos Your photos must be: printed to a professional standard clear and in focus in colour on plain white photographic paper with no border without any creases or tears unmarked on both sides (unless a photo needs to be countersigned) unaltered by computer software What your printed photos must show Your photos must: be a close-up of your full head and upper shoulders contain no other objects or people be taken against a plain cream or light grey background be in clear contrast to the background not have ‘red eye’ In your photo, you must: be facing forwards and looking straight at the camera have a plain expression and your mouth closed have your eyes open and visible not have hair in front of your eyes not have a head covering (unless it’s for religious or medical reasons) not have anything covering your face not have any shadows on your face or behind you Do not wear glasses in your photo unless you have to do so. If you must wear glasses, they cannot be sunglasses or tinted glasses, and you must make sure your eyes are not covered by the frames or any glare, reflection or shadow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, hotandsticky said: However, when I tried to submit one to UK Passport Office with the intention to renew a passport, it was rejected as "not sufficient quality". It was within the required parameters. They obviously weren't. HMPO in Liverpool do not reject photos for the fun of it. Any Kodak shop should have the following specifications. The criteria is quite extensive and be found here:- https://www.gov.uk/photos-for-passports/photo-requirements The size of your printed photos You need to provide 2 identical photos. They must: measure 45 millimetres (mm) high by 35mm wide (the standard size used in photo booths in the UK) not be a cut down version of a larger picture If you use a photo booth outside the UK, check it can give you photos that measure 45mm high by 35mm wide. The size of your image The image of you - from the crown of your head to your chin - must be between 29mm and 34mm high. The quality of your printed photos Your photos must be: printed to a professional standard clear and in focus in colour on plain white photographic paper with no border without any creases or tears unmarked on both sides (unless a photo needs to be countersigned) unaltered by computer software What your printed photos must show Your photos must: be a close-up of your full head and upper shoulders contain no other objects or people be taken against a plain cream or light grey background be in clear contrast to the background not have ‘red eye’ In your photo, you must: be facing forwards and looking straight at the camera have a plain expression and your mouth closed have your eyes open and visible not have hair in front of your eyes not have a head covering (unless it’s for religious or medical reasons) not have anything covering your face not have any shadows on your face or behind you Do not wear glasses in your photo unless you have to do so. If you must wear glasses, they cannot be sunglasses or tinted glasses, and you must make sure your eyes are not covered by the frames or any glare, reflection or shadow. I took a photo using my digital camera in my living room , and then cropped the photo down to size and it was accepted . Although it took me about four times to get right , when you apply for a new PP online , if your photo isn't of the correct standard , they immediately tell you to upload another photo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajnamoon Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 I take it that you are doing an online application for UK passport ??/ I had the same issues went to photo shop at Meechok Plaza showed guy photo requirements sizes etc ,photos taken with Canon SLR,Went into scanned and uploaded Rejected .went into CM town centre photo taken with Nikon SLR uploaded also rejected Got someone to take my photo outside in partial shade on my mobile phone uploaded IT was Accepted so get someone to take ur photo on mobile worked for me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFETY FIRST Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 14 hours ago, Maybole said: They were good enough for Thai Immigration Thai Immigration will accept any quality, even black and white. Australian government are pedantic regarding passport photos, the bitch behind window 1 at Oz embassy Bangkok made me retake my Kodak shop taken photos. I'd leave your photos until the day you submit your application. Choose a photo shop near your embassy, they will know exactly what you need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilly07 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, hotandsticky said: However, when I tried to submit one to UK Passport Office with the intention to renew a passport, it was rejected as "not sufficient quality". It was within the required parameters. They obviously weren't. HMPO in Liverpool do not reject photos for the fun of it. Any Kodak shop should have the following specifications. The criteria is quite extensive and be found here:- https://www.gov.uk/photos-for-passports/photo-requirements The size of your printed photos You need to provide 2 identical photos. They must: measure 45 millimetres (mm) high by 35mm wide (the standard size used in photo booths in the UK) not be a cut down version of a larger picture If you use a photo booth outside the UK, check it can give you photos that measure 45mm high by 35mm wide. The size of your image The image of you - from the crown of your head to your chin - must be between 29mm and 34mm high. The quality of your printed photos Your photos must be: printed to a professional standard clear and in focus in colour on plain white photographic paper with no border without any creases or tears unmarked on both sides (unless a photo needs to be countersigned) unaltered by computer software What your printed photos must show Your photos must: be a close-up of your full head and upper shoulders contain no other objects or people be taken against a plain cream or light grey background be in clear contrast to the background not have ‘red eye’ In your photo, you must: be facing forwards and looking straight at the camera have a plain expression and your mouth closed have your eyes open and visible not have hair in front of your eyes not have a head covering (unless it’s for religious or medical reasons) not have anything covering your face not have any shadows on your face or behind you Do not wear glasses in your photo unless you have to do so. If you must wear glasses, they cannot be sunglasses or tinted glasses, and you must make sure your eyes are not covered by the frames or any glare, reflection or shadow. I got photos from the office outside Jomtien Immigration which were pretty awful but HMPO also accepted them. Photos are sent by Trendy Bangkok to India where the passports are produced. They don't go to the UK so it's Trendy that accept or reject the photos and instruct India. If the new photos resemble the last passport then no verification is needed. Technically you cannot do an online application from outside the UK unless you use a UK address and get a trusted friend or relative to send it to you Edited April 14, 2022 by chilly07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said: I'd leave your photos until the day you submit your application. Choose a photo shop near your embassy, they will know exactly what you need. Good suggestion. I stumbled on a shop here in Chonburi like that. I wanted a photo for a Chinese visa and when we went to the shop I saw this large board on the wall with specs for every country. The guy said to me for China you need to wear a jacket with collar and tie, I said I didn't have one with me. He said no problem he would put it on the photo, just say what colour you want. Fantastic service. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunjeff Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 3 hours ago, hotandsticky said: unaltered by computer software Be cognizant of the fact that most photo shops in Thailand will, in fact, alter your photo - without asking you in advance - to make it "nicer", by removing facial blemishes, etc. You may want to tell them beforehand that you specifically don't want that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Go to a camera shop usually " KODAK! That does copies etc.. I get a Dozen Passport for 120.baht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swerve Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) I used my phone for my last UK passport photos. Online renewal. Another poster here said he did the same. My renewal was done in Canada three years ago. Edited April 14, 2022 by swerve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropposurfer Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) I'd recommend photos of the front of the head rather than the back ???? Edited April 14, 2022 by Tropposurfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 3 hours ago, chilly07 said: I got photos from the office outside Jomtien Immigration which were pretty awful but HMPO also accepted them. Photos are sent by Trendy Bangkok to India where the passports are produced. They don't go to the UK so it's Trendy that accept or reject the photos and instruct India. If the new photos resemble the last passport then no verification is needed. Technically you cannot do an online application from outside the UK unless you use a UK address and get a trusted friend or relative to send it to you British passport renewals in Thailand are processed by VfS Global as agents for HMPO. They have no authority to make any decision on photos. I am not even sure that they would tell you if they had been printed on a blue background rather than white or grey. They simply check that you have submitted documents that tick the criteria. The quality check is not in India, nothing goes to India. It is invariably HMPO Liverpool who raise queries on conformity of submitted documents. Never mind technically, 'legally' you cannot apply online from Thailand as you are making a false declaration (see above). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriendlyFarang Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 19 hours ago, Maybole said: I prefer somewhere on the south side especially Hang Dong Sanpatong area. Thank you. Here a shop in Hang Dong (on the opposite side of the street is another one): https://goo.gl/maps/SjWYcNAB9r7bAd6W6 But I've only used the photos from there for immigration, so no idea if they can take a photo which satifies the UK requirements. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky Rice Balls Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 I know there is a shop at cm gate on outer side right before wulai rd 200 bt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac Mickmanus Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 8 hours ago, chilly07 said: I got photos from the office outside Jomtien Immigration which were pretty awful but HMPO also accepted them. Photos are sent by Trendy Bangkok to India where the passports are produced. They don't go to the UK so it's Trendy that accept or reject the photos and instruct India. If the new photos resemble the last passport then no verification is needed. Technically you cannot do an online application from outside the UK unless you use a UK address and get a trusted friend or relative to send it to you Where did you get that info from ? About British PPs being issued in India ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 13 hours ago, hotandsticky said: British passport renewals in Thailand are processed by VfS Global as agents for HMPO. They have no authority to make any decision on photos. That is not correct. It is in fact about the only thing that VFS have an authority to make a decision on, although they would have you think otherwise. They are required to confirm there is a likeness between new photo, previous passport and applicant. I was one of the very first applications to be made to VFS in April 2014 and at that time they were over the top with the scrutiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Bones Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 18 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said: Thai Immigration will accept any quality, even black and white. Australian government are pedantic regarding passport photos, the bitch behind window 1 at Oz embassy Bangkok made me retake my Kodak shop taken photos. I'd leave your photos until the day you submit your application. Choose a photo shop near your embassy, they will know exactly what you need. Agreed. I just renewed my Aus passport. Very strict photo requirements. But their web page suggests a place near the Embassy. 6 photos for 120 baht and it was all smooth sailing from there. A small imposition but well worth reading up first. Different Embassies are just that, different rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 3 hours ago, sandyf said: That is not correct. It is in fact about the only thing that VFS have an authority to make a decision on, although they would have you think otherwise. They are required to confirm there is a likeness between new photo, previous passport and applicant. I was one of the very first applications to be made to VFS in April 2014 and at that time they were over the top with the scrutiny. They don't have a clue - if they did they would have picked up the error/s with the above poster's photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybole Posted April 15, 2022 Author Share Posted April 15, 2022 Additional Info. I dug up spare photos from the batch that I used for the issue of the passport nearly 10 years ago. They were taken in the photo booth in the Glasgow Passport Office. They have also been rejected as "not sufficient quality" They are of 78 KB and the first ones I tried were 79.3KB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybole Posted April 15, 2022 Author Share Posted April 15, 2022 5 hours ago, Maybole said: Additional Info. I dug up spare photos from the batch that I used for the issue of the passport nearly 10 years ago. They were taken in the photo booth in the Glasgow Passport Office. They have also been rejected as "not sufficient quality" They are of 78 KB and the first ones I tried were 79.3KB. Edit Minimum quality is 50KB and maximum 500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pmbkk Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 (edited) On 4/13/2022 at 5:37 PM, Maybole said: I scanned them onto a memory stick. I suspect this is the issue causing the quality issue - scanning deteriorates quality in some instances. Like other members I took a photo with my phone and it was accepted for my passport renewal. BTW, if you then renew your driving license they'll use the same passport photo within x years Edited April 15, 2022 by Pmbkk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KannikaP Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 On 4/14/2022 at 12:47 PM, ajnamoon said: I take it that you are doing an online application for UK passport ??/ I had the same issues went to photo shop at Meechok Plaza showed guy photo requirements sizes etc ,photos taken with Canon SLR,Went into scanned and uploaded Rejected .went into CM town centre photo taken with Nikon SLR uploaded also rejected Got someone to take my photo outside in partial shade on my mobile phone uploaded IT was Accepted so get someone to take ur photo on mobile worked for me Did mine myself on my phone. Accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorTom Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 On 4/14/2022 at 4:02 PM, sandyf said: Good suggestion. I stumbled on a shop here in Chonburi like that. I wanted a photo for a Chinese visa and when we went to the shop I saw this large board on the wall with specs for every country. The guy said to me for China you need to wear a jacket with collar and tie, I said I didn't have one with me. He said no problem he would put it on the photo, just say what colour you want. Fantastic service. Lol. I had to get some new photos done recently and i noticed they had a poster in the shop with different shirt and ties etc. they could photoshop on you. They also had some Thai police uniforms. Maybe i will try that for my next visa extension ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyf Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 20 hours ago, hotandsticky said: They don't have a clue - if they did they would have picked up the error/s with the above poster's photos. Never implied they did. My wife and I have been dealing with VFS for 13 years, they used to be at Regents House. One of the most incompetent and self serving companies I have ever come across and quite scandalous that they are allowed to represent the UK government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotandsticky Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 2 hours ago, sandyf said: Never implied they did. My wife and I have been dealing with VFS for 13 years, they used to be at Regents House. One of the most incompetent and self serving companies I have ever come across and quite scandalous that they are allowed to represent the UK government. We certainly agree on that! ????......... 29 years between us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoguy21 Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 You will find on the UK passport application for the requirements for the photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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