Popular Post Yorkshire Tea Posted August 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2023 10 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said: Solar panels on the roof? ???? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 13 hours ago, Bandersnatch said: Popped into my local Robinson to see a couple of cheap and cheerful EVs. Small on the outside and roomy on the inside. The Wuling Air EV is based on the China’s best selling EV the the Wuling mini EV. Wuling is a joint venture between SIAC motors that owns MG and General Motors. They are assembled in Indonesia and so won’t be getting any government incentives. I wish they were reasonably priced, like 200k or less, CH pricing. With the Neta V at 549k, who is going to buy them. Hard to justify as a primary car, unless you do very limited driving w/lite load. If budget is that low, then suffer with the Celerio, though in long run, more expensive, but gives more versatility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandersnatch Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, KhunLA said: If budget is that low, then suffer with the Celerio Valid point, but I think you can rule out the manual transmission (MT) Celerio for a like for like comparison. If assembled in Thailand with the Government subsidy it would be no contest. I bought my wife a new Suzuki Swift as her first car - a truly horrible car to drive IMHO. She said she would have chosen the Volt City EV over the swift if she had had the choice. Edited August 26, 2023 by Bandersnatch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKKBike09 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 15 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said: Classic! Love it. I mean, it's not like there's anything under the car that could be damaged by mounting a kerb ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syke1911 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 On 7/25/2023 at 11:40 AM, DrJoy said: Those do not cover the battery pack. You may want to read the fine print again. If you damage the battery in an unfortunate accident or it catches fire etc, the cheaper insurance does NOT cover it. New battery pack costs approx 1.33 Mill THB, which will have to be paid in cash. Not true.. I pay 55,000 a year for 1st class insurance on XC60 T8.. it covers the battery pack. Why wouldn't it? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandersnatch Posted August 29, 2023 Author Share Posted August 29, 2023 On 7/4/2023 at 6:30 AM, Bandersnatch said: AION Goes Global With Thailand Overseas Debut Aion Hyper GT apparently has the lowest drag coefficient of any production car in the world with a CD of 0.197. It starts at $30,600 in China. You can get it with a 70.1kWh 2 minute swappable LFP battery with 600km CLTC range 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Dwyer Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 57 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said: Aion Hyper GT apparently has the lowest drag coefficient of any production car in the world with a CD of 0.197. It starts at $30,600 in China. You can get it with a 70.1kWh 2 minute swappable LFP battery with 600km CLTC range Very nice, some nice performance EV’s appearing from China with the BYD Seal, MG X Power and now this. Talking about the Seal, latest rumour is some right wheel drive versions have been spotted at the docks in China heading for …. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandersnatch Posted August 29, 2023 Author Share Posted August 29, 2023 44 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said: Talking about the Seal, latest rumour is some right wheel drive versions have been spotted at the docks in China heading for …. ? Been watching those rumours today on FB myself but nothing concrete enough to post hence not worth translating but definitely RHD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bandersnatch Posted August 30, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) BYD reveals electric Seal pricing in key right hand drive market BYD has launched its electric sedan in one of the first right-hand-drive (RHD) markets in Hong Kong Standard Range Dynamic – $HK309,000 (฿1,378,000) Extended Range Premium – $HK347,000 (฿1,548,000) AWD Performance – $HK376,000 (฿1,677,000) The Standard Range Dynamic 61.4 kWh 450 km of WLTP range v Tesla Model 3 RWD 60 kWh 491 km of WLTP range Extended Range Premium 82.5 kWh 500km of WLTP range AWD Performance model dual-motor 82.5 kWh 0-100 km/h in 3.8 seconds with “3.8S” badge https://thedriven.io/2023/08/29/byd-reveals-electric-seal-pricing-in-key-right-hand-drive-market/ These prices seem to fit with the price of the Atto 3 and Tesla Model 3 in Thailand Edited August 30, 2023 by Bandersnatch 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macahoom Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 33 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said: These prices seem to fit with the price of the Atto 3 and Tesla Model 3 in Thailand I'm not sure what you mean by this. How much do you think the Seal(s) will cost in Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandersnatch Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 1 hour ago, macahoom said: I'm not sure what you mean by this. How much do you think the Seal(s) will cost in Thailand? I don’t know how much the Seal will cost in Thailand. We can’t use the price in China as it’s LHD and the Chinese market is super competitive right now. So my best guess is that the BYD Seal will cost more than the Atto 3 in Thailand as it is the Atto 4. BYD has been undercutting Tesla on price so we can expect that the Seal to be cheaper than the model 3 especially as Tesla doesn’t get any government subsidies. In conclusion I think the Hong Kong prices won’t be far off what the cost will be in Thailand. What we do know for sure is the price difference for each Seal model. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andrew Dwyer Posted August 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) For those who were interested in the BYD Seal but forgot what it looks like, here’s a quick reminder from Derek. Note: this is European spec so might differ slightly from the Thai version. Edited August 31, 2023 by Andrew Dwyer 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post macahoom Posted August 31, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2023 31 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said: For those who were interested in the BYD Seal but forgot what it looks like, here’s a quick reminder from Derek. Note: this is European spec so might differ slightly from the Thai version. I have just left the showroom. I put a deposit on a Seal Performance, AWD. They say I'll have it first week of November. 1 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandersnatch Posted September 1, 2023 Author Share Posted September 1, 2023 17 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said: For those who were interested in the BYD Seal but forgot what it looks like, here’s a quick reminder from Derek. Note: this is European spec so might differ slightly from the Thai version. The loss of the Build Your Dreams Logo and the fish scales I will gladly live without, but no karaoke! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bandersnatch Posted September 1, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2023 17 hours ago, macahoom said: I have just left the showroom. I put a deposit on a Seal Performance, AWD. They say I'll have it first week of November. @macahoom Any more to share? I am sure many will be interested. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Dwyer Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said: The loss of the Build Your Dreams Logo and the fish scales I will gladly live without, but no karaoke! ???? No more strains of a badly plucked Smoke on the Water from the lead weights in the back seat !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post macahoom Posted September 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2023 56 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said: @macahoom Any more to share? I am sure many will be interested. The dealership know precious little other than the Seal is definitely coming. Three models: 1. Standard Range. 61kWh battery, RWD. 2. Extended Range, 82.5kWh battery, RWD 3. Performance, 82.5kWh battery, AWD. This is the one I ordered. It has a lower range than the Extended Range model but Porsche Taycan 4S 0-100 time: 3.8 seconds. Funny fact: this model has a small 3.8s designation badge on the boot/trunk of the car. 1 and 2 above are only available in grey and white. 3 is only available in blue or white. I think I’ve got that right. The dealership don't know the prices yet; I even have my doubts about the delivery date. There has been no official announcement of the Thai launch. I’m guessing the price for my car will be somewhere between 1.5 and 2 million. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBChiangRai Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 The Performance version sounds like a great car. I just read this in my morning routine Review: is the new BYD Seal better than the Tesla Model 3? (msn.com) Basically, it is better! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macahoom Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said: The Performance version sounds like a great car. I just read this in my morning routine Review: is the new BYD Seal better than the Tesla Model 3? (msn.com) Basically, it is better! Yeh, all the reviews I've read and watched are very positive. About the only thing that keeps coming up is the over complicated tech - but that's a very common complaint with EVs; par for the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matchar Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 https://thedriven.io/2023/09/01/kia-ev5-lands-in-china-with-surprisingly-low-affordable-price-for-small-electric-suv/ The new Kia EV5 looks interesting with very competitive pricing China. It would be nice to get some more affordable choices in Thailand apart from MG but I expect the price will be much higher if it ever launches here. Surprisingly though, the Kia Carnival is available in Thailand at less than half the cost of a Toyota Alphard. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JBChiangRai Posted September 1, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2023 I think it's very difficult for any non-Chinese company to make any inroads into the Thai EV market, with the exception of Tesla. The extra costs involved in manufacturing and sales/import taxes probably makes them uncompetitive. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandersnatch Posted September 1, 2023 Author Share Posted September 1, 2023 New Tesla Model 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandersnatch Posted September 1, 2023 Author Share Posted September 1, 2023 Took a snapshot to the model 3 page this morning (I know pretty sad) just checked now and you can’t order a model 3 but there is a link to inventory that wasn’t there before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBChiangRai Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 A Tesla owner in the Uk complains... 'My Tesla cost a mortgage down payment - the tech doesn't work and now it's on clearance' (msn.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandersnatch Posted September 1, 2023 Author Share Posted September 1, 2023 Since we are talking Tesla Thailand. We have had no price changes here since I posted price information on 7th December 2022 Other countries have had steady price cuts. In Australia the RWD is ฿1.3m 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FruitPudding Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 On 4/22/2022 at 11:53 AM, buddy2010 said: The problem is, for me anyway, that I am not allowed to install a wallbox in my condominium! Is it weird I know you are American, just cos you called an electrical socket/outlet a "wallbox"? ???? You guys crack me up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandersnatch Posted September 1, 2023 Author Share Posted September 1, 2023 Even pre-facelift model 3s in Inventory are at list price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bandersnatch Posted September 1, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, FruitPudding said: Is it weird I know you are American, just cos you called an electrical socket/outlet a "wallbox"? ???? You guys crack me up. “Wall box” is what EV owners call the box they fit on the wall to facilitate home charging. It can support EV charging at 7kW single phase and up to 22kW three phase as compared to … 15 minutes ago, FruitPudding said: electrical socket/outlet which only supports 3kW in 220v countries and half that in 110v countries. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandersnatch Posted September 1, 2023 Author Share Posted September 1, 2023 Australian website has gone live already showing the discounts have been removed now back at ฿1.4m for RWD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 18 minutes ago, Bandersnatch said: Australian website has gone live already showing the discounts have been removed now back at ฿1.4m for RWD Less than ฿1.05m in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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