Sparktrader Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 Just now, Hummin said: I believe some predator birds like eagles in some protected areas have a good life soaring the sky, free and with no fears of tomorow. Awesome life. They dont sit around whining on the internet or watch tv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: They speak bird not English. Dead lol They are more alive than most humans. Yes, may be. The problem is - they don’t even know they are alive. They don’t exist for themselves. They do only exist for us, humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 Just now, Hellfire said: Yes, may be. The problem is - they don’t even know they are alive. They don’t exist for themselves. They do only exist for us, humans. You are making false statements. They feel pain and they fight over food. Of course they know they are alive. Some are friendly sit on shoulder some are not. They dont exist for us. Most birds we dont eat. They eat our food and <deleted> on the fence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 Next life i be bird u human I <deleted> on your fence if no food Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) The real problem is how much we deleted this planet, fighting wars we had no reasons for, and of top of that, we tripled the population since 1980. suddenly over two decades, we have a majority of people know everything, and believe in everything and also knows more than scientists knows, who have an IQ above 140. Average Joe broke all the codes in science Edited May 13, 2022 by Hummin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Hummin said: I believe some predator birds like eagles in some protected areas have a good life soaring the sky, free and with no fears of tomorow. The problem is they are never going to appreciate the quality of their life. Does your computer have a good life? Or the chair you sit on at the moment? Does your chair indeed has any life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Hellfire said: The problem is they are never going to appreciate the quality of their life. Does your computer have a good life? Or the chair you sit on at the moment? Does your chair indeed has any life? Chairs dont have brains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 Never heard a bird and a chair compared before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 https://sea.mashable.com/science/13941/birds-might-be-conscious-and-self-aware-like-humans-groundbreaking-study-finds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: Never heard a bird and a chair compared before Yes, that is my idea. Birds are much closer to the chairs or stones than to us, humans. We humans are unique. Like not anything else in the known universe. Edited May 13, 2022 by Hellfire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 See they do think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 Just now, Hellfire said: Yes, that is my idea. Birds are much closer to the chairs or stone than to us, humans. We humans are unique. Like not anything else in the known universe. Humans are very arrogant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hellfire said: The problem is they are never going to appreciate the quality of their life. Does your computer have a good life? Or the chair you sit on at the moment? Does your chair indeed has any life? Your name is average Joe? ???????? We can believe what we want, And I believe animals reckonize appreciate a good life. If not, they would go extinct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hellfire said: Yes, that is my idea. Birds are much closer to the chairs or stones than to us, humans. We humans are unique. Like not anything else in the known universe. There is a reason this world goes to hell, and you manage to prove it with three simple sentences. Well done 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 See studies Smart and likely self aware I know this, i feed them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Hummin said: Your name is average Joe? ???????? We can believe what we want, And I believe animals reckonize appreciate a good life. If not, they would go extinct No, they are just machines. They recognize nothing. The only creature on this planet that does recognize anything (in the true sense of this word) is a human. Edited May 13, 2022 by Hellfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Hummin said: There is a reason this world goes to hell, and you manage to prove it with three simple sentences. Well done This world is not existing without us, humans. We created it in our minds, it exists as long as we exist and it will cease to exist the moment we do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Hellfire said: This world is not existing without us, humans. We created it in our minds, it exists as long as we exist and it will cease to exist the moment we do. Religiously spoken of course? Or joker on Friday eve Edited May 13, 2022 by Hummin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Hummin said: Religiously spoken of course? Or s joker on Friday eve Weird conversation. Comparing animals with stones and chairs. Edited May 13, 2022 by Sparktrader 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, Hellfire said: This world is not existing without us, humans. We created it in our minds, it exists as long as we exist and it will cease to exist the moment we do. Earth 4bn years old Humans 200,000 years old The earth doesnt need us. We need it. Animals millions of years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Hummin said: Religiously spoken of course? Or s joker on Friday eve The world, as we know it, is nothing more than a story told by a grandmother to their grandchildren… when there is no more grandmother to tell another story, then “this world” will be over. Can there be other worlds? Absolutely. But we have no idea about those, those are not our worlds, those are not worlds at all…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 Just now, Hellfire said: The world, as we know it, is nothing more than a story told by a grandmother to their grandchildren… when there is no more grandmother to tell another story, then “this world” will be over. Can there be other worlds? Absolutely. But we have no idea about those, those are not our worlds, those are not worlds at all…. One opinion. Not shared by any scientist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 (edited) The objective reality is a myth. There is only a human reality. No humans = no reality. Edited May 13, 2022 by Hellfire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellfire Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: Earth 4bn years old Humans 200,000 years old The earth doesnt need us. We need it. Animals millions of years old. You are so funny… no offense 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hellfire said: The objective reality is a myth. There is only a human reality. No humans = no reality. When i was 19yo i smoked weed and thought the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 Just now, Hellfire said: You are so funny… no offense None taken. I will take real science over chair science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Hellfire said: The world, as we know it, is nothing more than a story told by a grandmother to their grandchildren… when there is no more grandmother to tell another story, then “this world” will be over. Can there be other worlds? Absolutely. But we have no idea about those, those are not our worlds, those are not worlds at all…. A Matrix, a simulator, a game, well, that we do not know. Might be, but that is nothing we can prove, or in fact know anything about. We can only relate to the most obvious reality that's is in front of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 Dinosaurs lived before us. Animals dont need us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, Sparktrader said: When i was 19yo i smoked weed and thought the same. 19 to, and I heard pink Floyd dark side of the moon, being dragged in to a black hole, but managed to hold on to the table long enough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted May 13, 2022 Author Share Posted May 13, 2022 The Doors Jim Morrison Break on thru to the other side. I tried. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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