webfact Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 FILE PHOTO: A Thai Air Asia Airbus A320-200 plane prepares for take off at Don Mueang International Airport in Bangkok, Thailand, June 29, 2016. REUTERS/Chaiwat Subprasom/File Photo By Editor Thailand’s Civil Aviation Authority (CAAT) has reported what it describes as a “serious incident” which took place earlier this month. On May 4, an AirAsia Airbus A320-200 is reported to have landed on the wrong runway at Bangkok’s Don Mueang Airport. The Thai AirAsia aircraft departed Ranong city at 12:43 and landed on Don Muang’s unassigned 21L runway at 13:36, instead of the 21R runway as intended. No accidents occurred as a result of the mistake, but Thailand’s CAAT has rated the incident as “serious” following standards set by the International Civil Aviation Organisation. Two pilots have been temporarily suspended in connection with the incident. Landing on the wrong runway can have fatal consequences, for example the 1979 crash of Western Airlines Flight 2605 which landed on a runway which was closed for maintenance in Mexico City, killing 72 of the 89 people on board and a maintenance worker on the runway. Thailand’s CAAT has launched an investigation into the incident which should be completed within 30 days. Don Mueang Airport only has two runways, with a golf course in between them owned by the Royal Thai Air Force, golfers are warned by a red light whenever a plane is about to land. AirAsia has apologised for the incident and insists it aims to always strictly adhere to relevant safety procedures. Source: https://royalcoastreview.com/2022/05/woops-air-asia-lands-on-the-wrong-runway-at-don-mueang/ -- © Copyright Royal Coast Review 2022-05-25 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandiRona Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Deroaster the Pilot and make an example so other Pilots learn from it. This is really a serious issue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Madgee Posted May 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2022 44 minutes ago, RandiRona said: Deroaster the Pilot and make an example so other Pilots learn from it. This is really a serious issue. Deroaster........ What this way? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ikke1959 Posted May 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2022 They are used to drive at the wrong side of the roads, so nothing new 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFETY FIRST Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, webfact said: Woops, Air Asia Lands On The Wrong Runway At Don Mueang landed on Don Muang’s unassigned 21L runway at 13:36, instead of the 21R runway as intended This is not a 'woops' Bloody dangerous and scary. Give the pilot a broom and his incompetent co-pilot. I read in Australia pilots and co-pilots are similar in rank, meaning if there is an issue that doesn't seem right the co-pilot can question and take control if need be. If it was a misunderstanding from the control centre, having poor communication due to improper language skills get the guys trained up by proper English speaking trainers. Edited May 25, 2022 by SAFETY FIRST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tich Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 How could this happen ? was the pilot not in contact with air traffic control ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, webfact said: The Thai AirAsia aircraft departed Ranong city at 12:43 and landed on Don Muang’s unassigned 21L runway at 13:36, instead of the 21R runway as intended. Considering the ATC tower give vectors if on a VFR approach or landing via ILS I don't understand how this could have happened? There are also extra symbols on the main screen which should also give guidance as to GPS location, and show that they were not on the correct centre line. Pilot complacency in thinking they were correct and not making sure they were correct. Edited May 25, 2022 by hotchilli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbkk Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 4 hours ago, harada said: Considering that the pilot of a fighter jet who parked across the runway at Don Mueang to stop a Japanese plane from landing did not receive a penalty, a wai and a 500 baht fine should suffice here. . I laughed so much I had to take a leak at the side of the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikke1959 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 56 minutes ago, hotchilli said: Considering the ATC tower give vectors if on a VFR approach or landing via ILS I don't understand how this could have happened? There are also extra symbols on the main screen which should also give guidance as to GPS location, and show that they were not on the correct centre line. Pilot complacency in thinking they were correct and not making sure they were correct. probably micro sleep 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayinThailand2much Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Maybe their pilots are as lousy as their 'customer service'... ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayinThailand2much Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Tich said: How could this happen ? was the pilot not in contact with air traffic control ? He didn't know about these things. He had just arrived the day before from Isan... ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 A post has been removed, you know why!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harveyboy Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 probably flying his plane like he drives his car ..anywhere any direction up or down the road Skilled pilot eh or was he on a holiday break from his job at 7/11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchidfan Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Two comments, as a pilot. The "Tower" do not give "vectors"...any radar vectors are given by the Approach Controller. A long way away. English language skills by ATC at all of DMK. BKK and radar control centers are excellent. Precise and clear. These 2 runways are very close and I doubt that a Tower controller (who only issues the landing clearance....which usually includes the runway designated) would visually pick this up. I think the main fault rests with the pilots for not selecting and double checking that the correct runway had been selected and identified. This is standard procedure. Buy MANY Asian pilots up "reft" and "light". In English spoken thai, L and R are often switched ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAFETY FIRST Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, orchidfan said: Buy MANY Asian pilots up "reft" and "light". Yes, good point. Having runways 21R and 21L in Asia is an accident waiting to happen. Edited May 25, 2022 by SAFETY FIRST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Brake Failure ? Lap Nai ? Simply Brainless ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 What? There are two runways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Saucage Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Yes, bloody dangerous and scary! But also such occurrences happen on a monthly, if not weekly base somewhere in the world. That said, such occurrences are not limited to Thailand. Some years ago in the US, a landing Air Canada jet almost crashed into 4 waiting other jets waiting on the taxiway. The pilots just mixed up the runway with the taxiway. This likely biggest accident ever in aviation was avoided by a few seconds and meters, as ATC ordered a go around. There must be a tough investigation, which I trust will happen. But also, to ridicule the pilots and to shout for punishment is NOT the way how mistakes should be handled in aviation. The community, pilots, ATC and authorities, want to learn from mistakes to prevent the same or similar mistakes in the future. Punishment leads to mistakes being swept under the carpet with zero chance of learning the lesson and teaching others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Once a Thai person reminded me that Thai pilots get their jobs like many other Thai people. It's not so much about education and competence and more about knowing the right people... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mancub Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Damned inconsiderate, as I was just about to tee off on the ninth. Caddie had a few choice words, I can tell you ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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