Sparktrader Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 I look at the data. Clearly the data shows serious flaws in the models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Sparktrader said: I look at the data. Clearly the data shows serious flaws in the models. If that was true you'd explain how. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Heat trapped by greenhouse gases reached highest level yet in 2021, scientists say May 25, 2022 Greenhouse gases emitted by human activities trapped much more heat in 2021 than they did three decades ago, according to scientists. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration released an update to its Annual Greenhouse Gas Index on Monday. The index is used to provide a measurement of the amount of heating greenhouse gases are causing. In 2021, the index reached a value of 1.49, which is 49% more than 1 value that is assigned to 1990 – the year of the Kyoto Protocol, one of the earliest binding climate change agreements signed by 192 countries. The value of 0 is assigned to the beginning of the industrial revolution in 1750. (more) https://nypost.com/2022/05/25/heat-trapped-by-greenhouse-gases-reached-highest-level-yet-in-2021-scientists-say/ Ironic given 2021 was colder than 2010 https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/statewide/time-series&ved=2ahUKEwir9_a3tYr4AhUIXWwGHRnIBUUQFnoECEUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3bjh7vKjg8t7G64nZB9Kio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 "Global surface temperatures continue to rise. In most surface temperature data sets, the years 2014, 2015 and again 2016 set new global heat records since the start of regular measurements." "We discuss some pitfalls of statistical analysis of global temperatures which have led to incorrect claims of an unexpected or significant warming slowdown." https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/aa6825 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Then in the 1950s, a dramatic increase in the burning of fossil fuels — coal to make electricity and steel, oil for vehicles and manufacturing — vastly accelerated the rate of CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere. “About 85% of all fossil fuel consumption since the start of the industrial revolution took place during my lifetime,” said Tans http://www.noaa.gov/stories/carbon-dioxide-levels-race-past-troubling-milestone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 A series of posts with vague or absent sourcing of claims have been removed, along with a post citing a debunked climate report. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Sparktrader said: Thera is nothing Thailand can do about climate. There is alot to do with the local climate to prevent flooding by make sure narural forrests can be created again, but that a bit far fetched when we know the old forrests is now rubber tree, durian, palm oil and other agriculture fields. Big mountains areas have been deforrested as well for tourism, windmill parks and agriculture purposes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 7 hours ago, Hummin said: There is alot to do with the local climate to prevent flooding by make sure narural forrests can be created again, but that a bit far fetched when we know the old forrests is now rubber tree, durian, palm oil and other agriculture fields. Big mountains areas have been deforrested as well for tourism, windmill parks and agriculture purposes. Tree planting and flood mitigation. Good ideas. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Sparktrader having a nightmare in here. Like his fingers are having a stroke.... And then claim he has been 'studying' climate change for 20 years haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 On 6/1/2022 at 4:24 AM, Sparktrader said: Tree planting and flood mitigation. Good ideas. Also saving more wetland, not only forrests. So many things we exploit and ruin in this world that have an important role for the local ecosystem. »Wetlands provide habitat for thousands of species of aquatic and terrestrial plants and animals. Wetlands are valuable for flood protection, water quality improvement, shoreline erosion control, natural products, recreation, and aesthetics» https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/why-are-wetlands-important https://www.epa.gov/wetlands/why-are-wetlands-important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 hour ago, smutcakes said: Sparktrader having a nightmare in here. Like his fingers are having a stroke.... And then claim he has been 'studying' climate change for 20 years haha Im doing fine. Facts on my side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Hummin said: Also saving more wetland, not only forrests. So many things we exploit and ruin in this world that have an important role for the local ecosystem. »Wetlands provide habitat for thousands of species of aquatic and terrestrial plants and animals. Wetlands are valuable for flood protection, water quality improvement, shoreline erosion control, natural products, recreation, and aesthetics» https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/why-are-wetlands-important https://www.epa.gov/wetlands/why-are-wetlands-important Local stuff always better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Sparktrader said: Local stuff always better. If you add every local stuff, then you have it as a global phenomenon right? Not so hard to understand what we do locally also will have consequences globally? And every little thing that add up on the negative side, will make huge avelanges when we also have removed naturally catalysts that could help us. No brainer if you ask me, when we constantly braking the natural circle on every level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcheech Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 The Ping River was actually flowing ten days back, after that heavy rain storm plastered north Thailand. It had been a ditch with stagnant water for a year. Not enough rain, so reservoirs closed catching as much as they can to save for irrigation. Been like that for over two years now BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparktrader Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 14 hours ago, Hummin said: If you add every local stuff, then you have it as a global phenomenon right? Not so hard to understand what we do locally also will have consequences globally? And every little thing that add up on the negative side, will make huge avelanges when we also have removed naturally catalysts that could help us. No brainer if you ask me, when we constantly braking the natural circle on every level. But you cant force other nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 ... and it's only mid February ???? @ municipality, PKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidneybear Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Global warming? A fad otherwise known as weather, and its always been changeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 On 5/31/2022 at 9:58 PM, Hummin said: This is quite interesting, but. I can not help to think about the increase of temperature when adding solar panels in a scale like this expecting it to actually contribute to lower the fossile usage. As well the need for resources and energy producing. Solar power and wind I doubt is the future. Till they invent working nuclear fusion, the small, portable nuclear power plants are looking very promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 On 6/1/2022 at 7:06 AM, Sparktrader said: Then in the 1950s, a dramatic increase in the burning of fossil fuels — coal to make electricity and steel, oil for vehicles and manufacturing — vastly accelerated the rate of CO2 being pumped into the atmosphere. “About 85% of all fossil fuel consumption since the start of the industrial revolution took place during my lifetime,” said Tans http://www.noaa.gov/stories/carbon-dioxide-levels-race-past-troubling-milestone The 1950s is probably about the time that world population started increasing dramatically. More people= more demand= more consumption= more need to make things= higher fossil fuel use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nglodnig Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 On 5/31/2022 at 12:38 PM, Baron Samedi said: CIA's last report mentions geoengineering as a way to mitigate climate change - a shield of particules in the high atmosphere. Seems radical but maybe we won't have a choice? Ever seen Snowpiercer where to combat global warming the governments of the world have dumped a cooling agent called CW-7 into the atmosphere, only to have the plan backfire and deep-freeze the entire planet. I mean, what could possibly go wrong? Invasise species in Australia anyone? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADog Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) Ive been waiting for a bit of this global warming in England, they've been promising warming since the 1980s when tins of Lynx spray on deodorant was going make us melt, yet here I am in 2023 freezing my nuts off as it costs too much to put the heating on! Knew they should never have fixed the hole in the Ozone layer (do some research on the ozone layer claim, what an absolute load of <deleted> that one was i.e. few British blokes go to Antartica, and come up with a wonderous story of impending disaster and it's believed) Edited February 13, 2023 by ADog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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