Popular Post snoop1130 Posted July 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2022 “Rules-based International Order” is a term that we have heard constantly in interviews with the US secretary of state Anthony Blinken over the past year. The reason the US is raising this more often now, Blinken said, is because the US sees it as being challenged, whether it’s by Russia’s aggression in Ukraine or China’s increasing aggression in this region and repression at home. The “order” to which the US refers, Blinken explains, is a set of basic rules about how countries relate to one another, with respect for sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity, human rights, with the universal declaration of human rights as its foundation. Not too long ago, Blinken said that China is the only country in the world to have the means, economically, militarily and in terms of influence, to challenge this order. He told Thai PBS World that it is still the case. Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thailand-in-the-rules-based-international-order/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2022-07-13 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. Monthly car subscription with first-class insurance, 24x7 assistance and more in one price - click here to find out more! 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Baron Samedi Posted July 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2022 Funny to see the US touring Asia to defend rules they kept violating on a regular basis since the 90's. Blinken is such an arrogant clown. Hopefully America will get rid of that lousy Biden administration soon. Politics is such a pile of ????... 34 2 8 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post connda Posted July 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) The 'rules based international order' means that your country takes its orders from the United States hegemony. A 'international laws based international order' means that your country follows UN dictate and is the preferred method of Russia and China and their aligned BRICS nations. These two opposed groups literally hate each other as they see only that their interests supersedes the rest of the world. Considering that to quote Tears For Fears that "Everybody Wants To Rule The World", the big players wants everyone else to support their interests. By the way - there are no Good Guys wearing White Hats. There are only greedy oligarchs, control-freaks, and billionaires who want their own interests in front of the rest of the countries in the world as well as their populations. If that means killing a few million people? So be it. A few billion - why not. At the end of the day it's extreme austerity for the commoners and the transfer of extreme wealth to the elite. To quote George Carlin, "It's a big club and you ain't in it." I personally feel that these opposing side will end up starting a nuclear conflagration before 2030 with an enraged and fully propagandized public egging on the mutually assured destruction (MAD) - I lived though the Cuban Missile Crisis. Who starts the 'first strike will be irrelevant. The media blame game will be vaporized in an EMP flash along with most of the earth's population and infrastructure. A small handful of Billionaire elites and their political and military henchmen will believe they can weather out the destruction in bunkers. Just hope the Eloi aren't waiting you ya'll exit your Morlock hidey-holes. Edited July 13, 2022 by connda 22 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zzaa09 Posted July 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, connda said: The 'rules based international order' means that your country takes its orders from the United States hegemony. A 'international laws based international order' means that your country follows UN dictate and is the preferred method of Russia and China and their aligned BRICS nations. These two opposed groups literally hate each other as they see only that their interests supersedes the rest of the world. Considering that to quote Tears For Fears that "Everybody Wants To Rule The World", the big players wants everyone else to support their interests. By the way - there are no Good Guys wearing White Hats. There are only greedy oligarchs, control-freaks, and billionaires who want their own interests in front of the rest of the countries in the world as well as their populations. If that means killing a few million people? So be it. A few billion - why not. I personally feel that these opposing side will end up starting a nuclear conflagration before 2030 with an enraged and fully propagandized public egging on the mutually assured destruction (MAD) - I lived though the Cuban Missile Crisis. Who starts it will be irrelevant. The media blame game with be gone in an EMP flash along with most of the earth's population and infrastructure. As small handful of Billionaire elites and their political and military henchmen will believe they can weather out the destruction in bunkers. Well constructed. As most of the usual crowd aren't aware of who the real nasty [and historically destructive] boogiemen truly are. Edited July 13, 2022 by zzaa09 10 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gearbox Posted July 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) The American "rules based order" is set of principles and rules designed to keep the vast majority of the world forever at the bottom of the food chain. The Chinese villains are attempting to break these rules because they don't want to manufacture cheap t-shirts and thongs forever. Edited July 13, 2022 by gearbox 17 1 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wombat Posted July 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2022 12 hours ago, snoop1130 said: respect for sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity, human rights, with the universal declaration of human rights as its foundation. Which is fine untill it's decided a police action is needed to keep them in order ? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandeventer Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 11 hours ago, gearbox said: The American "rules based order" is set of principles and rules designed to keep the vast majority of the world forever at the bottom of the food chain. The Chinese villains are attempting to break these rules because they don't want to manufacture cheap t-shirts and thongs forever. Maybe the Chinese are thinking if Japan can get out of the cheap t-shirts and thongs so can we? 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KIngsofisaan Posted July 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2022 12 hours ago, connda said: The 'rules based international order' means that your country takes its orders from the United States hegemony. A 'international laws based international order' means that your country follows UN dictate and is the preferred method of Russia and China and their aligned BRICS nations. These two opposed groups literally hate each other as they see only that their interests supersedes the rest of the world. Considering that to quote Tears For Fears that "Everybody Wants To Rule The World", the big players wants everyone else to support their interests. By the way - there are no Good Guys wearing White Hats. There are only greedy oligarchs, control-freaks, and billionaires who want their own interests in front of the rest of the countries in the world as well as their populations. If that means killing a few million people? So be it. A few billion - why not. At the end of the day it's extreme austerity for the commoners and the transfer of extreme wealth to the elite. To quote George Carlin, "It's a big club and you ain't in it." I personally feel that these opposing side will end up starting a nuclear conflagration before 2030 with an enraged and fully propagandized public egging on the mutually assured destruction (MAD) - I lived though the Cuban Missile Crisis. Who starts the 'first strike will be irrelevant. The media blame game will be vaporized in an EMP flash along with most of the earth's population and infrastructure. A small handful of Billionaire elites and their political and military henchmen will believe they can weather out the destruction in bunkers. Just hope the Eloi aren't waiting you ya'll exit your Morlock hidey-holes. There are probably some places you would be safe, but Thailand won't be one of them. The world population will pay the price someday for idiotic decisions made because someone did not get their way. What is happening in the Ukraine is a travesty and even worse, the world sends weapons and think they are doing enough. Sad to see so many innocent people killed that could care less about politics. Politics it the biggest killer in the history of the world. 6 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SiSePuede419 Posted July 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2022 It means this is an informal way of the US HELPING countries like Thailand, if they are willing to follow the US rules. It's an alternate to China's BELT & ROAD initiative, which will eventually make every country in Asia dependent upon China's rules (or else). When's the last time the US invaded a country for permanent occupation? Name one country. China? Tibet. And now they're gearing up to invade Taiwan. Hey. Asian countries don't have to play by America's rules. You can be subsumed by China. Up to you. ???? 10 3 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 12 hours ago, connda said: A small handful of Billionaire elites and their political and military henchmen will believe they can weather out the destruction in bunkers. True enough. But they still need slaves to do the work and for fornication, so they don't turn on each other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack West Jr Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Same old,same old . The good ole US of A dictating its policies to the rest of the world by means of big stick-policy . Meanwhile, racism , gun violence and social inequities abound in America . To top it all , the right to abortion has just been banned by the supreme court . Time for the countries of the world to decide their own fate , that is if Big Brothers USA , Russia and China will let them. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NightSky Posted July 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2022 13 hours ago, Baron Samedi said: Funny to see the US touring Asia to defend rules they kept violating on a regular basis since the 90's. Blinken is such an arrogant clown. Hopefully America will get rid of that lousy Biden administration soon. Politics is such a pile of ????... lets hope China or Russia don't take the reigns, at that point we really would be screwed. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyphodb Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 37 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said: It means this is an informal way of the US HELPING countries like Thailand, if they are willing to follow the US rules. It's an alternate to China's BELT & ROAD initiative, which will eventually make every country in Asia dependent upon China's rules (or else). When's the last time the US invaded a country for permanent occupation? Name one country. China? Tibet. And now they're gearing up to invade Taiwan. Hey. Asian countries don't have to play by America's rules. You can be subsumed by China. Up to you. ???? A bit late for that, If Thailand does anything that upsets China much they can just turn off the Mekong river... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 I'd be more interested to know which countries - if any - would come to Thailand's aid if they got invaded. If the countries surrounding Thailand invaded, none of the outside world would really give a hoot and probably say 'whatever' 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Just now, RichardColeman said: I'd be more interested to know which countries - if any - would come to Thailand's aid if they got invaded. If the countries surrounding Thailand invaded, none of the outside world would really give a hoot and probably say 'whatever' Do they have any treaties or alliances to fall back on? I bet China would come to help providing they were not the antagonists. Ukraine is not getting the support I would have expected prior, is that indicative of how countries really would react? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CygnusX1 Posted July 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2022 45 minutes ago, NightSky said: lets hope China or Russia don't take the reigns, at that point we really would be screwed. Yes, to all the anti-Westerners “America’s the cause of all the world’s ills” out there, would you really want to live in a world in which Russia or China was the dominant power? 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post piewarmer Posted July 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, CygnusX1 said: Yes, to all the anti-Westerners “America’s the cause of all the world’s ills” out there, would you really want to live in a world in which Russia or China was the dominant power? The current hegemony really sucks, there is a need for change away from the globalists 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, jacko45k said: I bet China would come to help providing they were not the antagonists. I do not agree, but I think if they did, they would not leave and it would become a state of china 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jesimps Posted July 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2022 The one thing I never see from the outhouse politicians on here is what they would do to ensure world peace. Russia and China would be good places to start. What would you do about the Russian invasion of Ukraine, let Russia flatten and conquer the country and then go on to take other countries or try to help Ukraine to defend itself? Same with China, let them take Taiwan and most of the South China Sea or resist it and help countries in the area to do so. Diplomacy doesn't work with power mad egomaniacs, just refer back to recent crazies, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao to name but a few. What would you have done to stop them? Blame the US and its allies as usual, I expect. 4 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 54 minutes ago, RichardColeman said: I'd be more interested to know which countries - if any - would come to Thailand's aid if they got invaded. If the countries surrounding Thailand invaded, none of the outside world would really give a hoot and probably say 'whatever' But Thailand's armed forces must be the best equipped in the world; they have more generals with lots of medals to deter all surrounding countries from attacking. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SymS Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) I believe the correct technical terms is the "rules for thee but not for me" international order. Edited July 14, 2022 by SymS remove extra quotation mark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandeventer Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 hour ago, RichardColeman said: I'd be more interested to know which countries - if any - would come to Thailand's aid if they got invaded. If the countries surrounding Thailand invaded, none of the outside world would really give a hoot and probably say 'whatever' China, as it would be the invading force! Are you any good at making T-shirts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightSky Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 hour ago, CygnusX1 said: Yes, to all the anti-Westerners “America’s the cause of all the world’s ills” out there, would you really want to live in a world in which Russia or China was the dominant power? Those posters are probably cccp plants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Baker Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 2 hours ago, zyphodb said: A bit late for that, If Thailand does anything that upsets China much they can just turn off the Mekong river... Why worry about Thailand and Chinese control. 80% of Thais are Chinese anyway. I'd rather be a chink than a yank they say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzian Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 2 hours ago, NightSky said: lets hope China or Russia don't take the reigns, at that point we really would be screwed And that's why I'm not anti-American like most of my American friends; this is no joke. But Blinken's vision doesn't really seem to go beyond maintaining the post WWII status quo, which isn't enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CygnusX1 Posted July 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, NightSky said: Those posters are probably cccp plants No, I think the problem is that Western nations with the most freedoms and human rights are constantly attacked from within by woke leftists. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Thailand in the "rules" based order ..Dr. hurry and stich my sides back up again???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LetsGoJoe Posted July 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said: Hey. Asian countries don't have to play by America's rules. You can be subsumed by China. Up to you. ???? Too bad (for us/them?) that America has become such a demented-Democratic clown-show to the point now of endangering the whole of humanity by playing cat n' mouse with Russia, who in their right-mind could possibly have confidence in a future with America (Western Civ. for that matter) at It's helm? Edited July 14, 2022 by LetsGoJoe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post roquefort Posted July 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2022 56 minutes ago, NightSky said: Those posters are probably cccp plants Of course. Anyone who questions US hegemony must be a communist. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post arithai12 Posted July 14, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2022 16 hours ago, Baron Samedi said: Funny to see the US touring Asia to defend rules they kept violating on a regular basis since the 90's. Blinken is such an arrogant clown. Hopefully America will get rid of that lousy Biden administration soon. Politics is such a pile of ????... Agreed. The problem is what comes after. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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