Considerations on a UK return.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 8/9/2022 at 5:00 AM, david555 said:

 

And still they come ! .....on risk of loosing life ....

 

Those small & big dingy's  day by day ...to "Paradise Island "....why ..?  ????

 

 

 

That's easy to answer. No matter how bad it is in the UK, it's better than the <deleted><deleted> place they came from. Unfortunately they may cause the UK to replicate the place they came from the way things are going.

[roo860]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That's easy to answer. No matter how bad it is in the UK, it's better than the <deleted><deleted> place they came from. Unfortunately they may cause the UK to replicate the place they came from the way things are going.

War torn France ????

[thaibeachlovers]

On 8/8/2022 at 11:40 PM, Mac Mickmanus said:

UK doctors are cutting back on needless treatment .

Quite probably your Thai specialist with give you everything possible , along with numerous drugs and bandages and future appointments and also a hefty bill 

LOL.

The Thai consultant I went to sorted the problem Drs in western countries had been unable to diagnose correctly. The bill was a few hundred baht and no drugs or bandages.

To get an appointment to see a consultant in my country requires me to pay biggly to see a GP and then I have to wait who knows how long before I actually see the consultant. I saw the Thai consultant without an appointment on the day I went to the hospital.

I'll take the Thai health service over what I have to put up with here any day.

[The Fugitive]

16 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Indeed, and yet there are those ( and some on this forum ) that think the NHS should do everything for anyone eg gender changing, no matter how irrelevant to the reason the NHS was set up ie treat sick people that couldn't afford to pay.

 

I left the NHS some years ago, but the rot had already set in. Gordon Brown gave the NHS 6 billion quid and they wasted it on flash buildings and more managers. Such a shame, but that's managers for you- little empire builders.

The money would have been better spent on more cleaners and nurses that actually nursed ( instead of sitting in offices thinking of ways to make life harder for the actual workers ).

 

IMO the NHS was a brilliant idea, but it was sabotaged by those that should have known better. I knew a few surgical consultants that regarded the NHS as a source of cheap nurses for their private work. IMO if there is anything that could save the NHS it would be to oust consultants from doing private cases in NHS hospitals ( private cases should be done in private hospitals ) and reduce the number of managers by 70%.

Totally agree. From personal experience some NHS staff need to stop talking to patient's as if they're doing them a favour by treating them. I was told that 'You can have anything you want if you go private'. Damn cheek coming from an NHS employee.

[soi3eddie]

On 8/8/2022 at 11:03 AM, worgeordie said:

Just checked the average cost of having a tooth extracted by private dentist 2000 pounds ,

compare that to Thailand , no wonder they are pulling their own.more than one for sure.

regards worgeordie

Not sure where you found that price. In June, I had a full mouth teeth exam, xrays, pictures, report and a difficult extraction (my first) done expertly with no pain. This at a highly rated implant specialist in Amersham, Buckinghamshire www.dentalandimplant.co.uk Total cost was £190 which, whilst more than in Thailand, I really thought good value for level of private care (Not NHS). The cost of the implant estimated to be £2,000 to £3,000 and I go back next week for that consulation. Maybe I'll leave it though and get the implant done in Bangkok over the winter.

 

Edited August 9, 2022 by soi3eddie

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, swissie said:

Most comments here, disturb me deeply. In my younger years, I visited England often. One might say I turned into an Anglophile. Rural England was very much to my liking. The landscape, the history and the people.

Indeed rural England is beautiful- the result of thousands of years of farming and civilization.

Unfortunately I had to live in London, which ( apart from some old buildings and parks ) is ugly, dirty, polluted and overpopulated.

[Mac Mickmanus]

8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL.

The Thai consultant I went to sorted the problem Drs in western countries had been unable to diagnose correctly. The bill was a few hundred baht and no drugs or bandages.

To get an appointment to see a consultant in my country requires me to pay biggly to see a GP and then I have to wait who knows how long before I actually see the consultant. I saw the Thai consultant without an appointment on the day I went to the hospital.

I'll take the Thai health service over what I have to put up with here any day.

Are you comparing the Thai Private sector with the U.K Public sector ?

Or did you go to a Thai Government hospital ?

Are you comparing like for like ?

Are you comparing the NHS to a Thai Gov hospital ?

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

Are you comparing the Thai Private sector with the U.K Public sector ?

Or did you go to a Thai Government hospital ?

Are you comparing like for like ?

Are you comparing the NHS to a Thai Gov hospital ?

Maharaj Nakorn Chiang Mai Hospital is a university teaching hospital, affiliated to the Faculty of Medicine of Chiang Mai University,

 

Far as I know that is a government hospital.

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

Anytime I think of the UK, I think of the Sam Peckinpah film.

 

 

[GammaGlobulin]

One more thing.

 

For all those complaining about not being able to see a doctor, I have not seen a doctor in over ten years.

 

We should consider ourselves lucky for not seeing doctors, in my opinion.

 

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

17 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Maharaj Nakorn Chiang Mai Hospital is a university teaching hospital, affiliated to the Faculty of Medicine of Chiang Mai University,

 

Far as I know that is a government hospital.

 

 

There are two hospitals next to each other . 

Sri Pat which is a private hospital and the other one which is a public hospital .

   How did you manage to be able to use a Thai public hospital ?

Do you have a Thai I.D card ?

[GammaGlobulin]

Why I do not return to the UK?

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

There are two hospitals next to each other . 

Sri Pat which is a private hospital and the other one which is a public hospital .

   How did you manage to be able to use a Thai public hospital ?

Do you have a Thai I.D card ?

Give it up before you dig that hole deeper!

 

https://www.internationalinsurance.com/hospitals/thailand/

You do not have to be a resident of Thailand to access the public hospitals, you will have to pay for your care there.

Edited August 9, 2022 by thaibeachlovers

[GammaGlobulin]

3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Wasn't you previously complaining about how rude and abusive people are on this forum ?

   No wonder posters are rude to you , if that is how you talk to them .

You speak to people in a rude way and then get upset and storm off when they are rude back to you 

I doubt what you say.

 

In my experience, I have never seen anything like what you describe, take place.

 

Honestly.

[georgegeorgia]

On 8/8/2022 at 6:56 PM, proton said:

Council tax can be of outrageous amounts, also water. Three years ago looked at a flat, water 40 quid a month if you used it or not, 480 a year. Here 40 quid is all I pay for the whole year. Water in the SE areas like Devon are over 1000 pounds a year

Try Sydney in Australia, Sydney Water charges me $183 per quarter !!!!

[CharlieH]

Off topic bickering removed.

[LaosLover]

10 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

Why I do not return to the UK?

 

 

As an American who lived in rural England with a hot local blonde, that film terrifies me more now more than when I saw it.

[Woof999]

On 8/8/2022 at 2:48 PM, talahtnut said:

Free speech banned, and one can be arrested for a Tweet that

someone finds offensive.

Free speech is alive and well and offers a number of protections. What it doesn't protect is you libeling or slandering someone. There are other restrictions, such as inciting racial hatred. If someone feels they need to spurt hate and offense (at a level that would clearly cause widespread offense) then I for one believe they deserve all they get. I'd far rather the laws were there than not.

 

The UK certainly allows far more expressive freedoms that, say Russia, Thailand and many others.

 

 

[The Fugitive]

12 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL.

The Thai consultant I went to sorted the problem Drs in western countries had been unable to diagnose correctly. The bill was a few hundred baht and no drugs or bandages.

To get an appointment to see a consultant in my country requires me to pay biggly to see a GP and then I have to wait who knows how long before I actually see the consultant. I saw the Thai consultant without an appointment on the day I went to the hospital.

I'll take the Thai health service over what I have to put up with here any day.

That is my experience too. Although, I have to admit, I've not been 'under the knife' in Thailand yet nor been admitted to a public ward in a Government Hospital although I've visited several. Thai Mrs chose to pay 1,000 baht per night for a private room in our Government Provincial Hospital whilst undergoing surgery for removal of Schwannoma tumours. Surgery was under local anaesthetic by the same doctor she saw at the outpatient's tumour clinic. Most satisfactory advice given and surgery performed.   

Edited August 10, 2022 by The Fugitive
Spelling mistake.

[The Fugitive]

10 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

Try Sydney in Australia, Sydney Water charges me $183 per quarter !!!!

That's interesting. In most Countries AFAIK water is metered (I'm assuming your's is?) but there may or may not be added charges for rainwater drains and foul water disposal (sewerage). Sewerage charge is proportionate to water consumption in U.K. Some remote rural areas don't have sewers or even rainwater drains so don't have to pay these additions. $183 AUD per quarter equates to £35 GBP per month which is more than enough, but not scandalous by U.K. standards depending upon consumption.

[3NUMBAS]

NHS  dont syringe ears no more so u have to go private

 

teeth can be NHS or  private for a small fee, its not a problem

 

you just dont want bad knees or cancer as waiting  lists long

 

many go to turkey for   teeth work   ..crowns or  veneers

 

i have a BUPA nhs dentist and a private dentist

[The Fugitive]

2 hours ago, Woof999 said:

Free speech is alive and well and offers a number of protections. What it doesn't protect is you libeling or slandering someone. There are other restrictions, such as inciting racial hatred. If someone feels they need to spurt hate and offense (at a level that would clearly cause widespread offense) then I for one believe they deserve all they get. I'd far rather the laws were there than not.

 

The UK certainly allows far more expressive freedoms that, say Russia, Thailand and many others.

 

 

The difference, I guess, is the medium of transmission. If one chooses to go to a National Front, Combat 18, Column 88, Ku Klux Klan or whatever meeting they are there by their own choice, the meeting is private and the audience is limited. Putting the same content onto the internet brings it to the attention of everyone?  

[Woof999]

2 minutes ago, The Fugitive said:

The difference, I guess, is the medium of transmission. If one chooses to go to a National Front, Combat 18, Column 88, Ku Klux Klan or whatever meeting they are there by their own choice, the meeting is private and the audience is limited. Putting the same content onto the internet brings it to the attention of everyone?  

An interesting point. To face any kind of consequences you first need to be caught. If you're in a closed group of like-minded people then that's not likely to happen, or at least it wasn't before people started filming everything.

 

Where you would come unstuck though is if your words caused one of your colleagues to go out and do something. In many jurisdictions you would be guilty of incitement. An example would be "The Orange One", whose words likely (IMHO) incited a number of his followers to commit crimes on Jan 6.

 

I'm not a lawyer and this is just my take.

 

 

[KannikaP]

On 8/8/2022 at 5:03 PM, worgeordie said:

Just checked the average cost of having a tooth extracted by private dentist 2000 pounds ,

compare that to Thailand , no wonder they are pulling their own.more than one for sure.

regards worgeordie

 

Bht 600, done by a very pretty young thing!

[Mac Mickmanus]

26 minutes ago, The Fugitive said:

The difference, I guess, is the medium of transmission. If one chooses to go to a National Front, Combat 18, Column 88, Ku Klux Klan or whatever meeting they are there by their own choice, the meeting is private and the audience is limited. Putting the same content onto the internet brings it to the attention of everyone?  

The rules and laws apply to everyone and everywhere . 

If a bunch of racists all stand around making racist comments , then its not likely to be bought to the attention of law enforcement officers, and so they can get away with it .

   Putting the same content online and the authorities will become aware of it 

[The Fugitive]

46 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

You mean they are going back using needles again.  555

Good one! I like it!

[GarryP]

On 8/8/2022 at 3:14 PM, worgeordie said:

Just listening to report on dentists  in UK, waiting so long for

an appointment that people are pulling their own teeth  out ! . 

here I have 2 dentists in a 10 minute walk, just walk in ,job

done for a very reasonable fee.

My daughter has cats, an old one needs some teeth taken out,

500 + quid just for a cat.

 

It's going to be heat or eat this winter over there , here , should

I put a shirt on in the house ....

 

regards Worgeordie

 

 

Eat the cat then the money saved on the vet can be used for heating. Both food and heating problem solved.  

[GarryP]

On 8/8/2022 at 3:24 PM, Mac Mickmanus said:

Those are queues for NHS dentists in some areas .

There are private dentists in the UK that you can attend to at short notice  , same as Thailand .

  Logic : *One person in the UK decided to pull a tooth out = Everyone in the UK cannot visit a dentist "

I've heard private is a tad expensive in the UK. Perhaps an understatement.  

[GarryP]

On 8/8/2022 at 4:57 PM, BritManToo said:

Eat the cat. Saves 500 quid on vets fees and a nice curry. 

Damn, you beat me to it.

 

[The Fugitive]

1 hour ago, KannikaP said:

Bht 600, done by a very pretty young thing!

Was she a 'general' High Street dentist or at your local community Government Hospital's dentistry department?