Question about Internet Simcard 1000 baht per year

[blorg]

Thai network providers sell artificially speed capped packages, 4, 6, 10, 15, 30Mbps etc. packages. In these cases the speed cap is not the actual max possible speed of the connection but it's capped on their network side.

BUT they specifically lift this for speedtest.net, because speedtest.net isn't just an end-user speed test but also keeps a leaderboard of ISP speeds. So if they capped speedtest.net their subscribers on speed capped packages would affect their overall ranking as an ISP.

 

AIS has historically done best on this and they actively promote themselves with this, that they have the fastest network.

 

https://www.speedtest.net/performance/thailand

https://investor.ais.co.th/news.html/id/741552

https://investor.ais.co.th/news.html/id/568369/group/newsroom_press

https://www.thairath.co.th/news/tech/1498250

https://www.chiangmainews.co.th/page/archives/1149202

https://business.ais.co.th/news-activities/digital_life_service_provider.html

 

If AIS or any other operator applied the cap to speedtest.net all their subscribers on these speed capped packages would drop them down the ranking.

 

So speedtest.net will give you the actual max line speed and will be accurate IF you have a "max speed" or uncapped package. It won't be accurate if you have a specific speed capped package, as to the best of my knowledge none of the major Thai network providers limit speed on speedtest.net as it would only hurt their ranking. AIS and True don't for sure, as I have tested that with their specific speed packages and speedtest.net always shows a much faster speed.

 

I initially thought it meant the speed capped packages weren't actually capped, but they are, if you try to download anything from anywhere else other than speedtest.net you'll get your capped speed. The positive, the max speed these days usually is well above the capped speed so you will get exactly the capped speed very reliably.

 

FAST.com (Netflix) is another very quick option that will show you your actual speed. They have Thai servers too. If you have a speed capped package but the theoretical max speed at your location is higher than this (which it usually is) you'll get pretty much bang on 4, 6, 10, 15Mbps shown on FAST.com.

[scubascuba3]

7 hours ago, blorg said:

Thai network providers sell artificially speed capped packages, 4, 6, 10, 15, 30Mbps etc. packages. In these cases the speed cap is not the actual max possible speed of the connection but it's capped on their network side.

BUT they specifically lift this for speedtest.net, because speedtest.net isn't just an end-user speed test but also keeps a leaderboard of ISP speeds. So if they capped speedtest.net their subscribers on speed capped packages would affect their overall ranking as an ISP.

 

AIS has historically done best on this and they actively promote themselves with this, that they have the fastest network.

 

https://www.speedtest.net/performance/thailand

https://investor.ais.co.th/news.html/id/741552

https://investor.ais.co.th/news.html/id/568369/group/newsroom_press

https://www.thairath.co.th/news/tech/1498250

https://www.chiangmainews.co.th/page/archives/1149202

https://business.ais.co.th/news-activities/digital_life_service_provider.html

 

If AIS or any other operator applied the cap to speedtest.net all their subscribers on these speed capped packages would drop them down the ranking.

 

So speedtest.net will give you the actual max line speed and will be accurate IF you have a "max speed" or uncapped package. It won't be accurate if you have a specific speed capped package, as to the best of my knowledge none of the major Thai network providers limit speed on speedtest.net as it would only hurt their ranking. AIS and True don't for sure, as I have tested that with their specific speed packages and speedtest.net always shows a much faster speed.

 

I initially thought it meant the speed capped packages weren't actually capped, but they are, if you try to download anything from anywhere else other than speedtest.net you'll get your capped speed. The positive, the max speed these days usually is well above the capped speed so you will get exactly the capped speed very reliably.

 

FAST.com (Netflix) is another very quick option that will show you your actual speed. They have Thai servers too. If you have a speed capped package but the theoretical max speed at your location is higher than this (which it usually is) you'll get pretty much bang on 4, 6, 10, 15Mbps shown on FAST.com.

Interesting, I've always just thought Speedtest just shows incorrect speed for capped, I didn't realise they were the max speed. Still misleading though users are thinking they get those speeds

 

I tested on my dtac unlimited speed

Speedtest 41.3

testmy.net 39.3

 

so sounds about right showing max

 

AIS 10mbps sim

Speedtest 55.2

testmy.net 9.7

 

55 looks a little high

Edited June 4, 2023 by scubascuba3

[onthedarkside]

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[sometimewoodworker]

8 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

AIS 10mbps sim

Speedtest 55.2

testmy.net 9.7

 

55 looks a little high

Different transmitter, different cell tower different location, so why does that look high for max speed?

[scubascuba3]

3 minutes ago, sometimewoodworker said:

Different transmitter, different cell tower different location, so why does that look high for max speed?

i read recently that DTAC and AIS were sharing transmitters in my area so expected similar speeds but seems not, but i remember another thread where people were claiming to be getting these high speeds where based on the post above they aren't if speed capped, which is what most people buy for sims

[NextG]

3 hours ago, sometimewoodworker said:

Different transmitter, different cell tower different location, so why does that look high for max speed?

Pay attention perhaps? He clearly wrote that it is an AIS plan capped at 10Mbps. None of the things you mentioned would increase that to ‘max speed’. 

[sandyf]

On 8/13/2022 at 2:00 PM, KannikaP said:

I have this one and it works perfectly at about 10-12 Mb/s. Enough for streaming.

I depends what you are doing. Late last year I had problems with 3 BB and kicked them into touch. I bough a sim router and the same sim but it hasn't been a great success. 

I use Kodi and had to limit the link size to less than 1GB or it would start buffering. Same if I stream for more than a couple of hours.

The savings have now paid for the router and sim so I will be going back to an ISP shortly.

Speedtests are not that reliable, the proof of the pudding is in the watching.

[sometimewoodworker]

1 hour ago, NextG said:

Pay attention perhaps?

You should follow your own advice and read the details of how all Thai companies exempt some speed check destinations from the speed caps. The phrase hoist on your own petard seems to be particularly apt doesn’t it?

[KannikaP]

5 hours ago, sometimewoodworker said:

Different transmitter, different cell tower different location, so why does that look high for max speed?

I would assume that he did the Speedtest and mytest consecutively, from the same phone, SIM, tower location.

[NextG]

56 minutes ago, sometimewoodworker said:

You should follow your own advice and read the details of how all Thai companies exempt some speed check destinations from the speed caps. The phrase hoist on your own petard seems to be particularly apt doesn’t it?

It would be funny if it weren’t so sad….

He was not inferring that “it was high for max speed”. That is what you wrote. 
He obviously meant that Speedtest was reporting a 10 Mbps capped speed connection as a 55.2Mbps ‘max speed’ connection, when it so obviously is not. Everyone, apart from yourself seems to have understood that. 
No need to start arguing about why a 55.2Mbps measurement seems too high for a package capped at 10Mbps ????

[sometimewoodworker]

1 hour ago, KannikaP said:

I would assume that he did the Speedtest and mytest consecutively, from the same phone, SIM, tower location.

Different providers most commonly have their own equipment so while it is conceivable that both AIS and DTAC are sharing the same cell site and equipment it is unlikely. Even if they are sharing the same cell tower they are not usually sharing the same transmitter, this doesn’t address the point that there are likely to be different numbers of users, not to mention that a few centimetres location change will have an effect. All of this means that a different speed is almost guaranteed doesn’t it?

Edited June 5, 2023 by sometimewoodworker

[sometimewoodworker]

1 hour ago, NextG said:

It would be funny if it weren’t so sad….

He was not inferring that “it was high for max speed”. That is what you wrote. 
He obviously meant that Speedtest was reporting a 10 Mbps capped speed connection as a 55.2Mbps ‘max speed’ connection, when it so obviously is not. Everyone, apart from yourself seems to have understood that. 
No need to start arguing about why a 55.2Mbps measurement seems too high for a package capped at 10Mbps ????

Are you actually have as much difficulty reading and understanding the points as you appear to? I know that if read as written, rather than as you think it’s written, it is comprehensible.

It has been shown that package capping is bypassed for some speed test sites

This demonstrates that you actually see the maximum possible speed reported irrespective of the capped speed

Naturally this is deceptive and not representative of real usage.

 

[NextG]

3 hours ago, sometimewoodworker said:

Are you actually have as much difficulty reading and understanding the points as you appear to? I know that if read as written, rather than as you think it’s written, it is comprehensible.

It has been shown that package capping is bypassed for some speed test sites

This demonstrates that you actually see the maximum possible speed reported irrespective of the capped speed

Naturally this is deceptive and not representative of real usage.

 

 

10 hours ago, sometimewoodworker said:

 

19 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

AIS 10mbps sim

Speedtest 55.2

testmy.net 9.7

 

55 looks a little high

Different transmitter, different cell tower different location, so why does that look high for max speed?

 

Your assumption is that he meant the AIS max speed looks a little high because it appears to be 10-15Mbps above his max for DTAC?

[Pattaya420]

Anyone use NT sim especially in Jomtien.

 

I currently use True Thor 15Mbps unlimited, 5G can't complain really, so far through the years True was best network for me in general, I move around a lot driving but it works on most part, before had 10Mbps 4G from them and everything worked and I'm talking IPTV no buffering, Netflix YT etc..

 

Now I condo I use my Samsung phone as router it works just fine.

 

Signal not strongest there but works.

 

I wonder about NT sim cuz it's 1000 per year or 199 month. 

 

I live on 2nd rd Jomtien, anyone got clue NT got signal there?

 

Is it NT use DTAC network or? 

 

Anyone on NT can share speed tests 🙏