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Mountain B fire: Full extent of tragedy hits home in horrific story of Vietnamese lady "Nong Kim"


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11 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Read the article again. It is claimed that 10 state hospitals refused her as they weren't able to treat her.

No im reading your statement of surprise that the vast majority of the locally run hospitals would be woefully underequipped, not capapble or even willing to deal with a mass casualty event. And certianly wouldnt have anything near resembling the burns treatment units or any other modern equipment to deal with those sort of events.  Not surprised at all.

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1 minute ago, Bangkok Barry said:

The number one purpose of a hospital is to treat people who need medical help. That really shouldn't be too difficult to understand. Your employer is in a different business, I assume, so your point is irrelevant. And MountainB made their money by not giving a rat's fart about the people they made it from and broke the law. Neither case has any relevance to a hospital not wanting to carry out their prime duty.

The number one purpose of a privately owned business is to make money.

 

Strange concept lost on many butthurt people.

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5 hours ago, BKKTRAVELER said:

Beautifully done by Bangkok hospital... A really humane way to deal with this tragedy. I find this absolutely disgusting. Because of the nature of the incident and how it has affected the country, any hospital should have rushed to offer free/reduced treatments for the victims. Would have costed a bit but that would bring them much better returns in the long term in term of reputation and image.

 

And only 10k so far from the owner of the pub... What a joke especially since his lawyer his praising him for being such an upstanding young man..

 

The whole story is sickening honestly.

 

Edit: I realize she is Vietnamese, but again that will not help with Thailand's international image at all. It shows foreigners are just second class liabilities.

Your forgetting the golden rule in Thailand, "Money number 1" empathy and sympathy are well below money in Thai culture! 

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33 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Not a good comparison to quote. The USA is famous for having outrageous prices for medical care.

Yes nothing like a private hospital in Thailand. They are so cheap.

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3 minutes ago, Dont confuse me said:

Your forgetting the golden rule in Thailand, "Money number 1" empathy and sympathy are well below money in Thai culture! 

Nothing to do with Thailand.

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46 minutes ago, GinBoy2 said:

I remember the Oakland CA fire. It was in an old warehouse that had been converted as some artisan work space.

 

There was an illegal rave organized by two guys. 30 odd people died.

 

Difference between that and this case is that the two guys did some significant time in jail, and it cost the City of Oakland $30M in damages to the victims for failing to enforce building codes.

 

We wait to see if lot's of wai's equal $30M!

Thanks for filling in the details ...

 

It will certainly be interesting to see if the Thai state steps in and by how much ... I have a sneaky suspicion there's not much financial depth to the bunch who ran/owned Mountain B.

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Just now, BusyB said:

The moment this emerged there should have been a general public emergency declared, all hospitals put on alert and every patient treated on arrival.

There is no excuse for medical facilities anywhere not carrying out their basic duty in a human catastrophe like this.

 

And who should publish the alert ?

 

Is this something done in other countries ?

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3 hours ago, anterian said:

What this really demonstrates is that Thailand is an intrinsically unsafe environment for tourists and foreign residents who are used to strict health and safety standards. Defensive driving on the road becomes defensive living in Thailand. 

Not for the nervous or faint of heart - unless they want a crash course in wising up and situational awareness.

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Just now, Ralf001 said:

it is if they wish to ignore the concept of businesses making money.

Although the topic is about hospitals making money , rather than businesses in general .

   No one is suggesting that business's shouldnt make money and that hospitals are a bit different to other businesses 

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1 minute ago, Ralf001 said:

And who should publish the alert ?

 

Is this something done in other countries ?

Emergency services usually. They are generally the first to get wind of the size of the incident. They have all the phone numbers and pre-agreed procedures. usually. Depends where you are.

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2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Although the topic is about hospitals making money , rather than businesses in general .

   No one is suggesting that business's shouldnt make money and that hospitals are a bit different to other businesses 

Private hospitals exist for one reason and one reason alone and it is not to provide charity health care.

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1 minute ago, BusyB said:

Emergency services usually. They are generally the first to get wind of the size of the incident. They have all the phone numbers and pre-agreed procedures. usually. Depends where you are.

got a link to this... In Thaliand.

 

FWIW, BKK PTY hospital is a ways away from the incident and this lady ended up there in the back of her friends car whom chose an expensive private hospital.

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8 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

got a link to this... In Thaliand.

 

FWIW, BKK PTY hospital is a ways away from the incident and this lady ended up there in the back of her friends car whom chose an expensive private hospital.

Do you think that private hospitals should refuse to treat people and let them die outside in the car park ?

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1 minute ago, Bangkok Barry said:

So you believe it's okay for a hospital to voluntarily let someone die if they can't make extortionate amounts of money from them. Okay. I have a different opinion on that.

Were in my posts have I said it is ok for a private hospital voluntarily let someone die ?

 

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13 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Sirikit Hospital did not refuse.

And they didn't treat her either.

 

"70-80% burns on her body on a gurney outside ER.

 

Medics were frantically running about as 10 terribly burned other victims were waiting in line for treatment."

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, nahkit said:

And they didn't treat her either.

 

"70-80% burns on her body on a gurney outside ER.

 

Medics were frantically running about as 10 terribly burned other victims were waiting in line for treatment."

 

 

 

 

She was accepted by the hospital and in line for treatment.

 

Her friend chose to move her to a very expensive private hospital.

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